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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
If I were Turkey, I probably would want the repair parts and contractors to keep flowing for my new SAMs.

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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

mlmp08 posted:

If I were Turkey, I probably would want the repair parts and contractors to keep flowing for my new SAMs.

I’m sure the quality of said parts is going to be really spectacular over the next few months.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Proud Christian Mom posted:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/03/air...sell-seats.html

Sabre tells Russia to get hosed

Between the travel ban, the engine bans, the insurance bans and all their planes belonging to leasing firms in Ireland, the Russian airline industry is dying a very quick and ugly death

Is there a Russian industry other than O&G or agriculture that isn't getting destroyed by this? Maybe heavy manufacturing if Russia can produce raw materials?

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shooting Blanks posted:

Is there a Russian industry other than O&G or agriculture that isn't getting destroyed by this? Maybe heavy manufacturing if Russia can produce raw materials?

Honestly the oil sectors getting nailed too, no one wants to buy Russian crude because they’re worried about sanctions and banking issues.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Shooting Blanks posted:

Is there a Russian industry other than O&G or agriculture that isn't getting destroyed by this? Maybe heavy manufacturing if Russia can produce raw materials?

Tracksuits?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008




Adidas pulled out of Russia too.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Honestly the oil sectors getting nailed too, no one wants to buy Russian crude because they’re worried about sanctions and banking issues.

also no insurer is going to cover your tanker if you decide to take a stroll through the Black Sea to Novorossiysk and load

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


https://twitter.com/shadyplanes/status/1499498986813931521?s=21

Savage

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Proud Christian Mom posted:

also no insurer is going to cover your tanker if you decide to take a stroll through the Black Sea to Novorossiysk and load

They do cover you but the premiums are high, as of last week it was something like 5% of insured value for a 7 day period.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





FrozenVent posted:

They do cover you but the premiums are high, as of last week it was something like 5% of insured value for a 7 day period.

loving christ

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.

Shooting Blanks posted:

Is there a Russian industry other than O&G or agriculture that isn't getting destroyed by this? Maybe heavy manufacturing if Russia can produce raw materials?

Hell if I can find the source for it, but I saw something last night that indicated that Russia imports most of their seed stock from abroad. Not sure if this year's stock would have already mostly made it inside the country yet or not, but with no food imports and reduced growing capacity things could get painful even in agriculture.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

The maritime insurance industry is a loving racket. They always claim to be running on bleeding thin margins and not making money off of war risk or things like that, but even a cursory examination of the numbers shows that's not true and they *hate* it when you point that out.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

CBJSprague24 posted:

For those wondering, Aeroflot has 187 aircraft in its mainline fleet. Exactly 10 of those are non-Western built:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_fleet

The same goes for all the other airlines except Rossiya, who are getting Aeroflot's aforementioned hand-me-down Sukhoi Superjets.

e- It looks like the only Russian-built passenger jets at this point are the SSJ and the Irkut MC-21, which looks like A321ski in the same "cheap knockoff" vein that the Tu-144 became dubbed "Concordeski".

RZJets gives a larger figure of 28 for the Superjet, and the MC-21 is just a prototype at this stage.

It may also be noted that the Superjet has it's own issues with reliability already, as well.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Even with all that in mind, that's an insane insurance rate. 260% annually.

brains
May 12, 2004

ASAPI posted:

So Russia is getting super frisky with ships now it seems. On a scale of one to WW3, where are we?

https://twitter.com/EstonianWorld/status/1499378883296116736

hasta la vista.ee

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
Regarding Russian threats against Sweden and Finland, was there ever confirmation of that? It came up in the DnD thread and Finn/Swede Goons said zero local news agencies had mentioned it and it sounded like bullshit.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

FrozenVent posted:

They do cover you but the premiums are high, as of last week it was something like 5% of insured value for a 7 day period.

oof

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1499454499710251009?s=20&t=xa69eedNp2dv40gMBOS2ng

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Sweden and Finland are participating in Operation Cold Response along with NATO and other regional allies right now I think. They coordinate pretty closely.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Regarding Russian threats against Sweden and Finland, was there ever confirmation of that? It came up in the DnD thread and Finn/Swede Goons said zero local news agencies had mentioned it and it sounded like bullshit.

I think it’s just that they’re two other countries close to Russia that aren’t into NATO. That would be a level of insanity that makes Putin’s Ukraine call look extremely cautious and justified by comparison since they have while tiny easily among the best man for man the best militaries in the world, a large reserve army, incredibly harsh climates, and a people with near zero cultural ties to Russia and no real separatist regions.

If Russia can’t curb stomp Ukrainian regular forces without shooting themselves in the dick, forgetting logistics and air support, and running out of gas I can’t imagine even the most deluded Russia nationalist thinks they have a shot against Finnish and Swedish troops. The few times Norway and Sweden have send troops to in small conflicts they’ve insanely effective units even compared to more experienced militaries.

Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Mar 4, 2022

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Regarding Russian threats against Sweden and Finland, was there ever confirmation of that? It came up in the DnD thread and Finn/Swede Goons said zero local news agencies had mentioned it and it sounded like bullshit.

I believe Lavrov demanded "security guarantees" from Sweden and Finland, and Su-27's out of Kaliningrad briefly violated Swedish airspace the other day.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Regarding Russian threats against Sweden and Finland, was there ever confirmation of that? It came up in the DnD thread and Finn/Swede Goons said zero local news agencies had mentioned it and it sounded like bullshit.

What level of threats do you mean? A week ago they made the statement "Clearly the accession of Finland and Sweden into NATO, which is first and foremost a military alliance, would have serious military-political repercussions that would demand a response from our country" which is definitely a threat. Was there supposed to be more?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1499519380773916674

Walked
Apr 14, 2003


Ukraine: more efficiently using Russian equipment than Russians

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers






o7o7o7

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Nuclear Tourist posted:

I believe Lavrov demanded "security guarantees" from Sweden and Finland,

Yea I think this is what it was, I couldn't tell if it actually happened or not.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Regarding Russian threats against Sweden and Finland, was there ever confirmation of that? It came up in the DnD thread and Finn/Swede Goons said zero local news agencies had mentioned it and it sounded like bullshit.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2022/03/02/sweden-Russian-planes-Sweden-airspace/4711646274809/

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Even with all that in mind, that's an insane insurance rate. 260% annually.

Don’t go park your boat in Ukraine.

Also I sent you that in our messenger group chat and now you’re all


On main? I’m sad, engineer-san.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499531172493373445?t=llhVuVmyDbm6KMtFTJW2pw&s=19

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret

Looks like it's still smoking based on this stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X14cRHLb-bU

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





FrozenVent posted:

Don’t go park your boat in Ukraine.

Also I sent you that in our messenger group chat and now you’re all

On main? I’m sad, engineer-san.

oh i muted that a while ago after it set off like 30 pings in the middle of the night

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/t5wtsc/russains_tunguskas_set_on_fire_in_nikolaev_region/

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

they have while tiny easily among the best man for man the best militaries in the world

Would you mind elaborating on this? What makes them so good?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I imagine it's a combination of being well educated, reasonably fit and decently equipped but it likely goes deeper than that

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Flesnolk posted:

Would you mind elaborating on this? What makes them so good?

Finland and Sweden do what Russia evidently doesn't: train.

I don't know about Finland other than they stacked serious bodies the last time Russia came calling, but Sweden's defense plans are/were so sophisticated that they developed armored vehicles specifically tailored to them, like the Strv 103, which was designed to duck into prepared berms and offer little to no viable forward-facing shots against direct fire. Also, there's quite a lot of "buffer" territory before land forces would get to anything they could even begin to fortify, with a lot of natural and engineered chokepoints they can't go around.

It'd be a nightmare for *any* armed force to try to invade Finland and Sweden from the north, and even worse of one to try amphibious landings as Sweden's submarine forces have been itching to sink Russian tonnage for 50+ years.

Finland has more to worry about since there's only ~100mi between Helsinki and St. Petersburg.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Mar 4, 2022

Churchill
Nov 27, 2007
Winston
At least for foreign operations, you don't necessarily have to be active duty, you apply for a slot. These mission are very popular so obviously the Swedish Army can pick and choose who goes. This also leads to the average age of the soldiers skew slightly older and I think we can all agree that any organisation benefits from not being full of 18-21 year old. I did my national service like 15 years ago so things might have changed and obviously differ depending on which unit you're in but I always felt like the officers were professional and (to an extent obviously) treated us as equals which in my mind is conductive for producing qualified and motivated soldiers.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I am genuinely terrified by the thought of facing an armed force that has all of its technical manuals done with the clarity and thought of IKEA assembly diagrams

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
They also have the Gripen and my 12 year old brain knows that thing is kick rear end.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
On the bright side I was talking to a friend who is a nuclear physicist and he said this reactor is a PWR and basically based off of the stuff they use for submarines reactors and designed to take a beating.

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvMm4Uh3HPs

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