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sonic matters.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 19:14 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 04:01 |
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Veotax posted:No, that's just Archie's story. The western backstory for sonic that was used was that it was a different planet called Mobius inhabited by animals with no humans. Dr Ovi Kintobor, a human scientist who came to the planet somehow, was turned into Dr Ivo Robotnik when an accident during an experiment with the Chaos Emeralds turned him evil. There's other stuff in there, like Sonic being his lab assistant and another lad accident turned him blue (he was a brown hedgehog who was fast before that), but that's pretty much it. The Kintobor backstory actually did show up in at least one other early piece of North American Sonic media: The 15 page Sonic the Hedgehog Promotional Comic released in 1991. I only know about this because a section of this comic was published in an old issue of Disney Adventures magazine in 1991 that I had a copy of as a kid. Fun fact: The Kintobor narrative would also be incorporated into the works of notriously bad Sonic the Hedgehog fan artist/writer David Gonterman, who tried to incorporate it into the backstory of the Archie Sonic canon in his fan comics and fiction.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 19:16 |
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Disco Pope posted:When I was a child, I was always fascinated with the idea of who built the Marble Zone or who lived in the Starlight Zone. Now, as a man, I know I was a dumb child. Nah, it doesn't matter if there is or isn't an official explanation for something. It's fun just thinking about this, and it's great when you can enjoy something from a game even when you aren't playing it. It's why I love ancient history. Since there's stuff we'll just never know without a time machine, you can fill in the details with your imagination. Things like what famous people were really like in person or what it would be like to live in that time. It's also why I can't stand Wikis. They're just a huge catalogue of facts and not an actual story. Games that use these for storytelling like FFXIII and Destiny instead of an actual narrative are impossible to get attached to. KingKalamari posted:I'm going to be honest, I've been kind of fascinated by the type of worldbuilding that could be extrapolated from the original games. Just this weird, nonsense adventure world full of ancient ruins, abstract super-cities and giant expanses of wilderness where you fight robots with magic rocks...
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 19:20 |
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So the best way to play Sonic 1, 2 and CD, are the Christian Whitehead mobile ports, is there a way to play those on PC easily? And once I finish those is there a similar treatment for Sonic 3+k I should get?
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:31 |
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theyre porting those + a new s3&k port to pc and consoles this year through sonic origins which they announced something like ~9 months ago and havent talked about since
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:39 |
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the cd port is already on steam though
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:39 |
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sonic origins is real
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:40 |
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RodShaft posted:So the best way to play Sonic 1, 2 and CD, are the Christian Whitehead mobile ports, is there a way to play those on PC easily? And once I finish those is there a similar treatment for Sonic 3+k I should get? They're going to be part of the Sonic Origins collection in development but literally nothing has been said about it for 10 months now so who knows. https://github.com/Rubberduckycooly/Sonic-1-2-2013-Decompilation There's this in the meantime. You need to own the Whitehead mobile ports and use files from them to run them, but they work well enough. The Whitehead port of CD is already on Steam. For 3, best bet is to use Sonic 3 A.I.R. https://sonic3air.org/
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:42 |
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Yeah, wait for the Origins collection so there's less hassle. Sonic CD on Steam doesn't have cloud saves so I'm hoping the new collection does. You can also play 1, 2 and CD for free on mobile but with occasional ads between levels. A phone with a DS4 and an attachment is amazing for games like these and emulation in general.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:58 |
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Of course, we still don’t have a release window for Origins yet as far as I know but regardless it’ll be nice to play those games without having to deal with the mobile controls. Kind of makes me wonder if they plan to add anything to Sonic 3K as well
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:02 |
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I use my phone to play metroidvanias while waiting in the pickup line, I want to play them on PC because I can just sit down and play through each in an evening. But if origins comes out on an actual game system especially switch that would be perfect.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:15 |
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Very confused to be learning about this Two Worlds theory that was canon or people thought was canon? Why would there be two worlds that seems silly.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:21 |
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there are actually three worlds the human world, sonics world and classic sonics world
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:25 |
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Waiting for Origins when the decomp ports can be set up and played in a matter of minutes is a bit silly. You can also blow up the viewing area and Sonic 1 is a way better game with a larger viewing area. Other than a few oddities of seeing stuff you shouldn't the game looks way better and it fixes a lot of the level design. Sonic 2 breaks if you take it too far, something to do with how it signifies ending levels, and doesn't really need it as much owing to better overall level design.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:27 |
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hmmmm. That sounds fake. E: Wait i think that's just Sonic X which is clearly non-canon.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:28 |
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the best way to play classic sonic is amy rose in sonic the hedgehog, sonic 2 pink edition, sonic 3 & amy rose, and sonic cd episode metal featuring amy rose
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:36 |
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playing Sonic 06 for the amy levels
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:46 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Very confused to be learning about this Two Worlds theory that was canon or people thought was canon? Why would there be two worlds that seems silly. The Two Worlds thing actually comes from a Gameinformer Interview with series producer Takeshi Iizuka. Specifically this bit: quote:It used to be that Eggman was the sole human. Starting with Sonic Adventure, we're seeing more and more humans show up in the stories. Where are they all coming from? This became kind of a big topic in the fandom due to how vague the intention of that statement was: Does this mean Sonic is travelling between a human planet and a manimal planet like in Sonic X? Or just that humans and manimals have distinct, separate societies on the same planet that tend not to overlap? Not helping matters was the fact that Sega has always been notoriously vague about going into specifics about Sonic's world, and different people associated with the franchise have given different explanations for what there being "two worlds" means. When asked, Sonic PR manager Aaron Webber has said that the two planets interpretation is the correct one to the best of his understanding, while former SEGA Europe community manager Kevin Eva believes the single planet version to be true. Even Ian Flynn has been inconsistent on the specifics, in some sources confirming the two worlds theory as official internal policy and in others refuting it. I believe in his most recent statement he basically just said "Look, it's complicated, don't worry about it". My own impression is that Sega and Sonic Team don't actually have a consistent, internal explanation for what the hell is up with Sonic's world and how it relates to the human characters, and all the production staff have their own ideas for how it's supposed to work.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:48 |
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Information that comes from anything other than the games themselves are fake tbh.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:53 |
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the information from the games themselves is fake too
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:54 |
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No those are real.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:56 |
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what happened to the hole in the moon
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:58 |
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actually everything is canon
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:58 |
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Augus posted:what happened to the hole in the moon Well if there's no hole now then it means it musta got fixed.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:04 |
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In Sonic X Eggman repaired it by building a mechanical shell over the broken half, in the games who knows.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:09 |
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they used the dragon balls to wish it back
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:11 |
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Ms. Unsmiley posted:sonic matters. Blue Lives Matter
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:12 |
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the moon was damaged in the human world not sonic's world where it is still intact
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:13 |
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Since we're talking about the best way to play classic Sonic games: Is there any good way to play the old Sonic Advance games these days?
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:14 |
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eclipse canon
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:16 |
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Augus posted:what happened to the hole in the moon It rotated so the intact side is facing the earth
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:22 |
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KingKalamari posted:Since we're talking about the best way to play classic Sonic games: Is there any good way to play the old Sonic Advance games these days? The 3DS store has the Advance games, otherwise they haven't been re-released so pick an emulator and off you go.
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:42 |
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KingKalamari posted:Since we're talking about the best way to play classic Sonic games: Is there any good way to play the old Sonic Advance games these days? still just emulation unfortunately
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:42 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:The 3DS store has the Advance games, otherwise they haven't been re-released so pick an emulator and off you go. Wasn’t the 3DS store going to be shut down at some point in the near future though (if it hasn’t already)?
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:46 |
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just emulate sonic sega doesnt care
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:47 |
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Larryb posted:Wasn’t the 3DS store going to be shut down at some point in the near future though (if it hasn’t already)? they're not on the 3ds store but they are on the jp wii u store, which is in a similar situation
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# ? Mar 25, 2022 23:48 |
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Augus posted:what happened to the hole in the moon gravity
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# ? Mar 26, 2022 02:06 |
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hydrostatic equilibrium
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# ? Mar 26, 2022 02:08 |
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Eggman had to fix it for his community service
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# ? Mar 26, 2022 02:21 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 04:01 |
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I wonder how David gonterman is now I hope he's less weird about cartoons
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