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hierarchy of genres was a fun read. i was looking forward to the next part since they finally got past the intro but then... yeah. i don't know why they are chasing some form of perfection. idiosyncrasies is what made things insteresting. constant reboots like that have killed a lotttttt of webcomics.Tree Bucket posted:It sounds like they really really shouldn't lol yeah
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# ? May 24, 2024 23:38 |
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Tree Bucket posted:The art for the weird mute wartmonster porn comic gives me the same vibes as the art for Hierarchy of Genres. It just feels off somehow; a scratchy feeling in the brain. You can feel the crazy amounts off effort that went into it. Lines erased and redrawn for hours. Stand Still. Stay Silent Mage stuff continues Looks like the interconnected parts of the dream world are drat dangerous. That's definitely not the last we've seen of the braided traveler. Also I love Lalli's cat-like hand-wriggling in that last page
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 13:08 |
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Transdimensional Brain Chip 52. Something you have to see 53. Something really bad 54. Famous Body count: 4 +Ulf (killed by a nuclear bomb in Chicago)
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 13:23 |
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Hierarchy was lovely and fun but it also wound up being like 50% exposition. A lot of fantasy comix go through this phase where they have a Really Big Story they want to tell but they want to get to the good bits without taking a decade to get there. So they wind up bouncing from one big pivotal moment to another with exposition in between to fill in plot & worldbuilding details, without any real connective tissue in the form of smaller story arcs, etc.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 13:31 |
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Something very realistic about Christian Ulf thinking he can convert his other selves by monotonously reading Bible verses out of context, when the whole reason he converted was because of having relationships and a community offered with the religion. Also definitely the other shoe dropping here.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 13:39 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Something very realistic about Christian Ulf thinking he can convert his other selves by monotonously reading Bible verses out of context, when the whole reason he converted was because of ftfy
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 13:42 |
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Oh poo poo, I'm watching cartoons in Chicago right now!
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the holy poopacy posted:Hierarchy was lovely and fun but it also wound up being like 50% exposition. A lot of fantasy comix go through this phase where they have a Really Big Story they want to tell but they want to get to the good bits without taking a decade to get there. So they wind up bouncing from one big pivotal moment to another with exposition in between to fill in plot & worldbuilding details, without any real connective tissue in the form of smaller story arcs, etc. Agreed, imo this was pretty clearly the issue when somebody posted the authors' explanation for how magic worked in the comic and it was really long and convoluted and none of it was conveyed in the comic at all. The kind of author that has Big Ideas for how their world works but doesn't have the patience to get the audience invested so it all turns into a big mess even if it's a big mess with pretty art. The fact that I love Thorsby probably already communicates that I think a comic works way better if it has a good plot and pacing but mediocre art than if it has really pretty art that fails to convey anything because the story is a mess.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 13:47 |
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Thorsby comics are the diametric opposite: The author has Big Moments that they want to get to, but getting to them and establishing the world are part of the fun.
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I think flag guy in the lower right panel holds the new record for "most stoked about what's going on" in this comic, or indeed in anything ever. Edit: Actually, every panel with him is amazing.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 14:35 |
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rydiafan posted:I think flag guy in the lower right panel holds the new record for "most stoked about what's going on" in this comic, or indeed in anything ever. oh my god I hadn't even noticed him hanging out on the lizard snout in the splash art up top
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 14:46 |
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weird naked old knight dude waiting for the weird pantsless man to give the order to fire him from a trebuchet not even tied up or anything, just passing the time. none of the people on that lizard have weapons
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 15:23 |
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:weird naked old knight dude waiting for the weird pantsless man to give the order to fire him from a trebuchet He's already very dead
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 15:35 |
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i think he's just lazy
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 15:39 |
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i think he's just lazy It's barely after sunrise and he hasn't had his coffee yet!
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Philippe posted:Thorsby comics are the diametric opposite: The author has Big Moments that they want to get to, but getting to them and establishing the world are part of the fun. And there's clearly both a ridiculously convoluted plot to get into and a lot of poo poo going on elsewhere that's never going to be explained. TBC so far has been relatively grounded, compared to Hitmen for Destiny establishing pretty much immediately how it's in a huge multiverse full of ridiculous poo poo and that it revolves more around the characters than the world is required for it to make any structural sense.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 15:54 |
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I assume TBC has to stay grounded because we're always looking at Ulf.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 15:58 |
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For the record, we are just under one third of the way through TBC, and part of what has kept it grounded so far imo is that it is clearly set in an only slightly more sci-fi version of the real world (with really the only sci-fi element we've seen being the brain chip itself), which means there hasn't had to be very much worldbuilding compared to establishing a fantasy setting.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:02 |
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I was just wondering how far we were in TBC, I knew it wasn’t super long but I wasn't sure exactly how long. I'm finding the Christian Ulf plotline to be kind of dragging for me. Everything else is good and I'm curious what's going on in the background as things develop, but adding in them sniping back and forth about religion just isn't grabbing me.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:08 |
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Thorsby's indignant faces are inherently funny to me
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:12 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:TBC so far has been relatively grounded, compared to Hitmen for Destiny establishing pretty much immediately how it's in a huge multiverse full of ridiculous poo poo and that it revolves more around the characters than the world is required for it to make any structural sense. As someone who has already read TBC: lol I agree that it's been relatively grounded so far
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:17 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:I was just wondering how far we were in TBC, I knew it wasn’t super long but I wasn't sure exactly how long. It's not great as a one-off (although it's not bad per se) but knowing Thorsby I wouldn't be surprised if it's a set up for something more interesting later.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:19 |
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:weird naked old knight dude waiting for the weird pantsless man to give the order to fire him from a trebuchet He's about to be fired from a catapult, how could you possibly turn down an opportunity like that
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Captain Hygiene posted:I was just wondering how far we were in TBC, I knew it wasn’t super long but I wasn't sure exactly how long. The sniping back and forth isn't great, but I do appreciate it when it's used as a setup for Thorsby gags like the comic with Buddhist Ulf and Wiccan Ulf.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:28 |
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For the record, as a Christian, I find the religion farce funny and not at all insulting. I'd imagine some rituals make exactly as much sense to an outsider as taping a fish on your head. It fits the theme of the comic to have religiosity in it have as little nuance as relationships in general. I still chuckle at the Satan ad.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 16:38 |
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Apocalypse Johto Part 2: Silver Tongue Chapter 17: Freezer Burn
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 18:15 |
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I appreciate that the pool girls are also part of the lord's army and between them they even have a whole suit of mad max armor
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Don't get it, aint this how everyone's county informs them?
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A Lesson Is Learned But The Damage Is Irreversible PAUL'S SCIENCE CORNER July 23, 2004
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 20:53 |
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Whybird posted:He's about to be fired from a catapult, how could you possibly turn down an opportunity like that Holding out for a trebuchet.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 20:59 |
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Hempuli posted:A Lesson Is Learned But The Damage Is Irreversible I think this might be my favorite comic of all time.
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 21:40 |
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Hempuli posted:A Lesson Is Learned But The Damage Is Irreversible you do not wanna' deal with a 5-alarm lizard fire
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Hempuli posted:A Lesson Is Learned But The Damage Is Irreversible Boba Pearl posted:I will not say what parts are over exagerated, under exagerated, or which parts were changed to protect identities. Assume it's all bullshit. Also, "thanks" e: I only vaguely remember the live BDSM show thing, that really was very effectively swept under the Splicer has a new favorite as of 22:23 on Apr 14, 2022 |
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The self-immolation strip of A Lesson Is Learned exists permanently in my head (also the buff skeleton one)
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tune in next time on lizard house: goddamnit, now our house is a lizard!
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 22:39 |
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drat horror queefs posted:The self-immolation strip of A Lesson Is Learned exists permanently in my head That's actually the very next one and is definitely one of my favorite pages of all time
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Seldom Posts posted:I liked it and hierarchy of genres, and yeah I'm not really interested in going back after the reboots. I agree. There were minor things about the art/worldbuilding I didn't like but nothing that couldn't be improved on mid-stream. At least at some points before they started over I was invested in where the story was heading. The new version of the comic seems to be front loading the backstory that would have been revealed gradually over time in the original comic, and I can't help but feel that's a shame. Now that I see where they were going I think it could have been pretty interesting in the original format if they had stuck with it, but now the whole hook of the story is being spelled out in a way that builds zero dramatic tension. I don't know, it seems like the creators have an instinctive knee-jerk reaction to respond to creative obstacles with starting from scratch over and over when a few minor adjustments are really all that's necessary. Granted, that's coming from someone who's been trying and failing to dip her toes into producing webcomics for over a decade, so if Hierarchy of Genres people are lurking ITT please take my criticism with a big grain of salt. Valiantman posted:For the record, as a Christian, I find the religion farce funny and not at all insulting. I'd imagine some rituals make exactly as much sense to an outsider as taping a fish on your head. It fits the theme of the comic to have religiosity in it have as little nuance as relationships in general. I still chuckle at the Satan ad. I think it works fine for the premise of the comic. That is to say, it's not about religion so much as it is about a very surface-level understanding of religion filtered through a character dumb enough to get a back alley brain implant. Ulf's grasp on the nuances of atheism/Christianity/etc are all about on the same level, regardless of which Ulf it is.
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Kit Walker posted:That's actually the very next one and is definitely one of my favorite pages of all time
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Fyadophobic posted:I think it works fine for the premise of the comic. That is to say, it's not about religion so much as it is about a very surface-level understanding of religion filtered through a character dumb enough to get a back alley brain implant. Ulf's grasp on the nuances of atheism/Christianity/etc are all about on the same level, regardless of which Ulf it is.
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