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Macron seems to have fully recovered now that the race is specifically between Le Pen and him. Very few protest votes for Le Pen in the second round compared to the first and almost all of the anti-Le Pen voters are backing Macron instead of not voting. Although, it is still the best that the National Front has ever done and 44% for a diet fascist party in France is definitely not a great thing. https://twitter.com/trekonomics/status/1516072316119048196
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Macron seems to have fully recovered now that the race is specifically between Le Pen and him. That is a huge relief, thank God. I wonder if lePens pro-putin history has anything to do with it.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Macron seems to have fully recovered now that the race is specifically between Le Pen and him. Well, it's still more than a week to go and he's still down somewhat from where he was. Do we know how accurate french presidential polling has been in the past?
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I guess it is good that the U.S. is pre-emptively banning itself from doing something that it has never done yet, but I'm not really sure how this is supposed to stop Russia from doing it again? Or fix the fact that there is now an untraceable series of tiny debris that will be orbiting the earth for a decade waiting to damage satellites and space stations. Or why it took this long to do it if it was in response to the Russian's blowing up the satellite last year (other than "federal government so slow, lol") quote:Biden admin to announce self-imposed ban on anti-satellite weapons tests https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1516120384264970247
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G1mby posted:Well, it's still more than a week to go and he's still down somewhat from where he was. Do we know how accurate french presidential polling has been in the past? Ipsos basically nailed the first round of voting; except they under estimated Macron's total a little bit (but, within the MoE). In the last two elections, the polls have generally overstated Le Pen's support. In 2012, several of them had her tied for first place in the first round and winning the second round, but she ended up in third and didn't make the runoff. That 2012 French election is also like a look into a parallel world compared to today. - Le Pen didn't even make the second round and only got 17% of the vote. - None of the other far-right parties got above 3% of the vote. - The Socialist party got 52% of the vote in the second round (they got 1% this year and obviously didn't make it to the second round). - Sarkozy's center right party got 48% of the vote in the second round (the party eventually completely dissolved in 2015 and no longer exists).
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Macron seems to have fully recovered now that the race is specifically between Le Pen and him.
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GOP Fundraisers are raising a ton of money for Manchin for the first time ever. The actual news is that Manchin says he plans to run for re-election in 2024 - and not run for Governor again as some people have speculated. He had previously said that he was undecided on whether he would run for re-election and wouldn't make an announcement until 2023. Also, that billionaires seem to have no idea how politics works and the worst possible political instincts, despite spending tons of money to political campaigns. quote:several top executives said they privately hoped the conservative Democrat would switch parties and run against President Joe Biden in the 2024 elections, CNBC has learned. quote:This person noted that some attendees at the Peltz event, who once supported Trump, look at Manchin and his stances against some of his party's policies as someone who could successfully run in a Republican primary and then possibly defeat Biden. https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1516120241440497665
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I guess it is good that the U.S. is pre-emptively banning itself from doing something that it has never done yet, but I'm not really sure how this is supposed to stop Russia from doing it again? Or fix the fact that there is now an untraceable series of tiny debris that will be orbiting the earth for a decade waiting to damage satellites and space stations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-135_ASAT There was also the malfunctioning spy sat they shot down with Aegis a few years ago for "safety" and totes not an ASAT test
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Some of "Trumper for Life" J.D. Vance's friends just leaked a bunch of his private Facebook group chat messages from 2016. Most of them are boring things about visiting Aunt Sally or TV shows, but a few are pretty politically damaging. In them, Vance says: - Most GOP voters are uneducated and form their opinions entirely based on what 3 conservative news sites and Fox News say. - That he prefers New York City over Middletown, Ohio. - That Trump is a symptom of the GOP's neglect of working class voters and calls him "America's Hitler." - That Trump voters are getting taken for a ride, but that Trump might be a useful idiot for conservatives. - The GOP is the party of "uneducated white people." Trump just endorsed J.D. Vance two days ago and Vance is attacking his primary opponent for being anti-Trump. https://twitter.com/JoshforGeorgia/status/1516093390378741763
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Oracle posted:He'll just bald-faced deny it if he's learned anything from Trump and they'll believe him. He'll just call it fake new and 90% of republicans won't even learn about it because FOX, their FB friends and talk radio won't even mention it. If they do, it will be in the context of "look at this smear job hit piece on a Trump supporting patriot"
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The director of Trans issues for the Log Cabin Republicans says they, and the entire Log Cabin Republican Chapter in Texas, support Abbott's anti-trans policies, but are not taking a position on whether gender-affirming healthcare for minors is child abuse or not. They also say he is being forced to do it because "radical left" political operatives are making it an issue. They also cite Biden's day 1 trans rights executive order as proof that their hand was being forced. They say that because all of the anti-trans athletics and healthcare laws target minors, that they are in support. But, they would oppose any laws aimed at adults. They also carefully avoid taking a position on banning books with LGBT content from public libraries and schools by saying that they support keeping sexually explicit material away from minors. https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1516106004789923851 The sad thing is that the Log Cabin Republicans aren't even doing this because they get a seat at the table and need to keep sucking up to avoid making waves: quote:Every two years, for at least twenty years, the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas have had their application to place a booth at the state GOP convention invariably denied. A booth is the bare minimum—a token symbol of respect and acceptance—but that has always been too far. The LGBT Republican group held it's own event instead and this was the highlight: quote:I popped into the Lincoln Day Dinner on Thursday night at a ballroom in the Omni Riverway, curious if the Log Cabin Republicans would be grappling with any of this publicly. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Discendo Vox posted:A hit piece was deployed in Politico with the backing of the food industry to reorganize the FDA. This is a really loving big deal, and a bunch of senators from both parties are making noise about restructuring the agency (or even splitting part of it off) before the end of the year. Could you please elaborate on what in the piece made you think it was a "hit piece... with the backing of the food industry" and pull some quotes to prove it? Because it appears to be the opposite, actually, and addresses a number of food-safety issues that have been neglected by the agency. quote:By the time FDA officials figured out it was spinach that was making people sick in 10 states – sending three people into kidney failure – it was too late. It was mid-November 2021 and the packaged salad’s short shelf life had passed. There was no recall. By the time FDA officials got inspectors on the ground, spinach season was over. The fields and the production facilities were empty, which made it impossible to pinpoint the source of contamination. The story acknowledges that "Kass, who’s now a venture capital investor in food startups, acknowledged that many of the issues facing FDA are complicated and tough to work on, but the lack of progress can be maddening, he said. 'There’s a real need in this country to put pressure and regulatory oversight on an industry that’s producing food that's undermining the public good.' " but he seems to be urging stronger safety standards for food, not weaker. Moving on: quote:Aside from the lack of attention to food at the top, there are also unique problems within CFSAN, the branch that handles food issues. The division – which is dwarfed by the medical products side of the agency – suffers from a deep-seated culture of avoiding hard decisions and a near-paralyzing fear of picking serious fights with the food industry. A Trump-era change in leadership structure set up a power struggle between the two top officials, further strengthening the status quo of inaction, which often benefits industry. The agency is adrift, without leadership, and currently plagued by turf battles. The baby formula contamination has done real & appreciable harm to families, and made formula expensive & hard to find. It's also a necessity, integral to infant health & well-being. The story then goes on to describe how the FDA knew of baby food & formula issues for years, and "cast doubt" on a study that showed metals in baby foods, among other contaminants. But wait! There's more! And none of it backs up your contention that the investigation/story is an ag-industry hit piece: quote:Advocates and members of Congress noted the lack of timelines or deadlines and criticized the agency for not committing to timely action. A month later, FDA tried again and rolled out a “Closer to Zero” action plan. By this point, the agency had, under pressure, set some deadlines, but its timeline extended out more than three years. The agency said that within a year it could set draft limits for lead in certain categories of foods for babies and young children. (The agency is on track to miss its April deadline, but said it's aiming for later this spring.) Draft limits for arsenic would come sometime between 2022 and 2024, FDA said. Other neurotoxic elements like cadmium and mercury are on even longer tracks, with the agency proposing, but not committing, to come up with draft limits sometime beyond 2024. The rest of the so-called "hit piece"--which is actually an in-depth investigative report with a ton of sources--concentrates on stuff like sodium levels in packaged food and standards in labeled products. Your framing of this piece is baffling, given its actual & comprehensive contents, and I'm utterly confused as to why you attempted to portray it as industry-driven, when the piece itself shows it to be the exact opposite.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Following the study of Hispanic-Americans, Pew released a major study of Black Americans. Speaking of Hispanic-Americans, the most recent Quinnipac poll shows Biden's approval rating among Latinos as being 30 points underwater, 24-54. Not as bad as among 18-34 yr olds, for which he's underwater by 37 points (21-58), but pretty eye-popping nevertheless.
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This Is the Zodiac posted:Bob, a small business owner, owns two factories which each generated $60,000,000 in revenue last year. Each factory employs 1,000 workers at $11 per hour. If Bob's executive salary is $400,000 per year, and the Malibu beach house he wants to buy costs $5,500,000, how much of Bob's capital expenditures must he write off to reduce his taxable income to zero? Sally has 2 children who wear diapers, ages 1 and 2, and works 10 hour shifts at Amazon for $12 an hour with a half hour lunch and no breaks. Sally wears 2 of the diapers per day at work since she gets no bathroom breaks and her children average 4.5 diapers a day. Question: If a box of 88 diapers cost $55.00 and, how much money would Jeff Bezos lose if he allowed Sally to use the bathroom for 10 minutes a day and how much money is Sally saving the company? Extra Credit: What percentage of an Amazon CEO's $350,000/year salary would Sally be costing the CEO? We could make a thread with these.
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New York law requires them to produce 70% of their energy from renewable resources by 2030. They are currently behind schedule and almost all of their renewable energy comes from nuclear power - that they will be shutting down or reducing capacity with in the next 5 years after environmental activists finally won a 20-year long campaign to shut down the nuclear plants in New York last year. Only 6% of New York's power currently comes from non-nuclear renewables. They do have a hydroelectric power plant that is in construction as part of the infrastructure bill that is expected to provide 30% of the power needs, but there is no other way to meet the goal without nuclear power. https://twitter.com/philcorso/status/1516137944750379012
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Some new villains have been rotated into the Senate confirmation for Gigi Sohn to the FCC, whose appointment now looks to be in doubt:quote:A coalition of Republicans, moderate Democrats and telecom industry allies are ratcheting up pressure on potential swing Democrats to oppose FCC nominee Gigi Sohn, including by calling the progressive consumer advocate an “anti-police radical” and accusing her of being biased against rural America. Sohn’s supporters say these broad swipes, rooted in politically sensitive culture wars, bear little attachment to her actual record. lmao that bad-Dem Heidi Heitkamp is leading a PR campaign against Sohn's confirmation: quote:“We’re going to focus on where we think the greatest political impact will be for members who vote for her,” Heitkamp said. “It’s not done to punish anyone — it’s done to say, ‘Pay attention to this because this could come back and really have an adverse effect against all the good work that you’ve done.’” There goes another campaign promise, this time for net neutrality.
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Willa Rogers posted:Some new villains have been rotated into the Senate confirmation for Gigi Sohn to the FCC, whose appointment now looks to be in doubt: Heitkamp is a loser and shithead who somehow keeps getting invited onto TV to tell others to also become shithead losers. Easy layups, but you keep getting blocked by retired members of your own team.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Although, it is still the best that the National Front has ever done and 44% for a diet fascist party in France is definitely not a great thing. I don't think "diet fascist" is useful term because you're never a little bit fascist
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President Kucinich posted:Wtf is in Mandel's closet 😳 He doesnt have Peter Thiel's massive wallet in there for sure.
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As with most politico pieces of this sort, the article: 1. Leverages accurate information (the FDA is massively behind schedule on a bunch of FSMA rulemakings, there's a siloing problem and a turf war between programs, and the food safety monitoring apparatus is fragmented), 2. Minimizes other less useful explanations that it can't completely ignore (FDA is catastrophically underfunded and, in particular, is hampered by relying on contracts with the states for large parts of its inspection activities), and 3. Misrepresents whatever it can (FDA's released a large number of FSMA rules and, in particular, a massive food traceability rule, and a lot of the delays that do exist have been caused by industry) The article then reassigns blame for all of these back, exclusively, to the agency, and presents them as a litany to justify a realignment that is favored by industry - which is why the quotes are, in fact, so heavily from people who left the agency for industry. I'll provide some examples of how politico manipulates some of this language: quote:In that time, FDA has failed to put in place safety standards for the water used to grow fresh produce, as mandated by that law, despite knowing that water is one of the main ways fresh fruits and vegetables become contaminated with deadly pathogens. quote:For example, FDA has spent the better part of a decade working on voluntary sodium reduction goals for food companies while many other countries moved ahead with their own years ago. On heavy metal limits in baby foods, the article combines accurate problems with FDA (they should have set heavy metal limits a long time ago, presuming they had the funding to do so) with inaccurate comparatives (it's not realistically feasible to have zero levels of some heavy metals in any kind of food, including baby foods- comparisons to levels so low they can't be measured in reporting aren't feasible, especially with lead). The article also minimizes agency regulatory actions that have occurred on the issue. So what makes it a hit piece? As usual with big "investigative" work from politico, someone fed it to them with an agenda. This editorial was timed to follow the "investigation": https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/11/fix-fda-break-it-up-00024423 The underlying goal is to centralize authority under a particular exec and basically purge a lot of existing personnel. This is why the article has a glowing minibio of him and frames him as the solution with his corporate experience and accountability reputation (which isn't based on anything). This exec had been planning to privatize inspection authority and shift to poo poo like "AI-based" inspection prioritization and food tracing on the blockchain. He was isolated and position was removed from any direct authority immediately after he was hired (which contributing to the fragmentation of authority in the division) - but he's got tenure and industry ties and if he regains power there will be a further regulatory retreat, so he's stuck around waiting for this push to happen. FDA has serious issues in all of its divisions, and the food division needs a reorg, but a lot of its problems have to do with decades of insufficient funding normalizing triage-level regulatory practices and reliance on state or industry sources. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 07:04 on May 13, 2022 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Sally has 2 children who wear diapers, ages 1 and 2, and works 10 hour shifts at Amazon for $12 an hour with a half hour lunch and no breaks. Sally wears 2 of the diapers per day at work since she gets no bathroom breaks and her children average 4.5 diapers a day. Question: If a box of 88 diapers cost $55.00 and, how much money would Jeff Bezos lose if he allowed Sally to use the bathroom for 10 minutes a day and how much money is Sally saving the company? Extra Credit: What percentage of an Amazon CEO's $350,000/year salary would Sally be costing the CEO? edit: Mr. White's department has two managers. Steve can get his team to complete 6 reports per day. DeMarcus can only get his team to complete 4 reports per day. The burdens of Obamacare have made it too expensive to pay two managers and, because of Affirmative Action, Mr. White has to fire Steve and have DeMarcus manage both teams. If DeMarcus's combined teams complete 9 reports per day, how much productivity have Obamacare and Affirmative Action cost Mr. White's business? This Is the Zodiac fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The question was part of a series of questions where they just replaced the noun with a different group of black Americans. Right, but I'm not convinced that "do you feel like you have a lot in common with X?" is a good question to measure cultural solidarity. It really depends so heavily on each person's interpretation of that question that I don't see how you could draw conclusions from it.
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BiggerBoat posted:Sally has 2 children who wear diapers, ages 1 and 2, and works 10 hour shifts at Amazon for $12 an hour with a half hour lunch and no breaks. Sally wears 2 of the diapers per day at work since she gets no bathroom breaks and her children average 4.5 diapers a day. Question: If a box of 88 diapers cost $55.00 and, how much money would Jeff Bezos lose if he allowed Sally to use the bathroom for 10 minutes a day and how much money is Sally saving the company? Extra Credit: What percentage of an Amazon CEO's $350,000/year salary would Sally be costing the CEO? This post is basically Critical Race Theory
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The town of Freepville increased its fire department's budget by $1,000,000 for 2020. In 2020 there were 6 fires which caused a total of $400,000 in damage. For 2021, the fire department's budget stayed the same. In 2021 there were 3 fires which caused a total of $100,000 in damage. The fire department has asked for another $1,000,000 budget increase, which would cause a $0.02 increase in property taxes. How much tax money could the town of Freepville save by eliminating its fire department?
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Discendo Vox posted:So what makes it a hit piece? As usual with big "investigative" work from politico, someone fed it to them with an agenda. This editorial was timed to follow the "investigation": The classic and beautiful political maneuver: produce a highly compelling argument that the institution is broken, ineffective, and corrupt, then pitch a solution that solves nothing and probably makes it worse, but it enriches your buddies.
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Willa Rogers posted:Could you please elaborate on what in the piece made you think it was a "hit piece... with the backing of the food industry" and pull some quotes to prove it? Discendo Vox posted:As with most politico pieces of this sort, the article: I just wanted to highlight these two posts as pretty much the platonic ideal of "Debate and Discussion" and I appreciate seeing this kind of exchange vs petty sniping and attempted owning of one's suspected moral inferiors. Thanks for elevating the discussion in CE.
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Discendo Vox posted:Meanwhile, the Environmental Working Group that's quoted saying the new rule is a "complete surrender" are notorious cranks. I remember coming across these guys when researching water quality and water filtration, and chalking them up as a fake advocacy group meant to generate demand for the water filter industry. Is it more insidious than that?
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The U.S. and Cuba are having direct high-level negotiations for the first time since the Obama administration. The U.S. has invited, and Cuba has accepted, high-level Cuban government officials to Washington D.C. for the first time in decades. What are these historic talks and negotiations going to be about? The embargo? Democratic reforms? Nope. If you guessed "Cuba wants the U.S. to process visas for wealthier Cubans and government officials to travel to the U.S. faster and the U.S. wants Cuba to take back a bunch of Cuban immigrants from the U.S.," then I think you are a liar. But, that is the correct answer. In a weird twist, both Cuba and the U.S. want to reduce the amount of Cubans from permanently going to the U.S. The U.S. is expecting a surge of migrants following the lifting of Title 42 and Nicaragua's lifting of visa requirements for Cubans. Since the change, Cubans have been traveling to Nicaragua and then going to the U.S. border that way. https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1516179847902543887 quote:EXCLUSIVE U.S., Cuba to hold high-level migration talks in Washington
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Macron seems to have fully recovered now that the race is specifically between Le Pen and him. Very US current events content. Thank you. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Not as technical as what Discendo Vox pointed out (thank you to them for that)- I have massive issues with the FDA but many of it's problems do come from being horrifically underfunded and thus unable to regulate or enforce their mandate. They can be and are politically and legally hamstrung. Similar problems with the EPA. It's certainly not their only problems. For a broad example, moving things through the courts is slow and if you run into a judge who is politically against what they are trying to stop (or, worse, has buddies that get political donations from them or, yet worse, kickbacks) the issue has then been stalled, potentially stopped in it's tracks wasting resources and time. Or a politician or groups of politicians working against them because they are funded by those companies (like the supplement or MLM industries with a lot of politicians, specifically republicans). Or political appointees or the administration proper want it stopped or alters policy. The companies on the other side might have tons of resources and clout to maneuver, lobby and make things difficult. What is being done isn't technically illegal and congress or the administartion isn't gonna move on it. There are loopholes like with telecommunications and supplement law. It's sometimes incredibly difficult to prove direct harm or causation in court. A civil class action suit (not the FDA, I know) brought by people affected by the medications, supplements, pollution or whatever can bring evidence from scientists and doctors showing strong correlation between a substance produced or included by the companies and the harm done to them (those bringing suit) but not necessarily direct cause. And the scientists and doctors for the other side are there to poke endless holes and even play to the judge or jury (if even gets that far). Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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eviltastic posted:I remember coming across these guys when researching water quality and water filtration, and chalking them up as a fake advocacy group meant to generate demand for the water filter industry. Is it more insidious than that? It's been awhile since I last read up on them, but they're one of the ur-chemophobia groups. iirc they're mercenary and are used by various actors in industry to attack others to get leverage for e.g. "purer" or organic products.
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Willa Rogers posted:Could you please elaborate on what in the piece made you think it was a "hit piece... with the backing of the food industry" and pull some quotes to prove it? The water thing is especially galling since I used the EWG water ratings to discover that there's trace amounts of barium and radium in the water supply here, along with nitrates literally hundreds of times above a safe level from some rear end in a top hat corporation dumping runoff from their farming op up river. Which by the way is going to be even worse now, since the SCOTUS released a ruling saying even so much as a one inch sandbar means you can pretend the other side of the river doesn't exist insofar as polluting the water goes. At this point I have to choose between getting a reverse osmosis water purification system and hoping it can handle the load such messed up water has or just switching over to drinking soda and alcohol like i'm in the middle ages to avoid the water as much as I can. And seeing as how every pet i've ever had since the nitrates started being dumped died within a decade from tumors (It and the filtration chemicals which are also at absurd levels are carcinogenic) rather than other health complications despite my family vetting their food intake downright religiously i'm guessing that it's a serious health issue that is going unaddressed due to corporatists, centrists, and Republicans believing regulation=bad because it puts burdens on companies and not consumers. Of course, I also can't do a damned thing about showering either. Since there's no way to purify that water. Ditto for sucking down PFA's in bottled water, soda, etc, etc, even though there's been research that shows that they can have health consequences. But hey, some suit made a buck at the expense of hundreds of thousands or even millions of people, right? That's what really matters in life. Edit: Discendo Vox posted:It's been awhile since I last read up on them, but they're one of the ur-chemophobia groups. iirc they're mercenary and are used by various actors in industry to attack others to get leverage for e.g. "purer" or organic products. I should also point out that being chemophobic doesn't necessarily mean they're always wrong given that they have a fairly up front water testing system with metrics in place to tell you what the legal standard is and what their personal standard is. When you have chemicals due to industrial runoff being legally dumped into the ground water supply they're actually useful in showing what's going on. Ditto for if the water filtration process is dumping in large amounts of other chemicals to try and sort out things out, even if it literally can't fix the problem with those chemicals. This has occasionally happened where politicians and bureaucrats try to cover their rear end by claiming more cleaning chemicals=safer water. So they do have a use. Notably, ever since the nitrates issue I mentioned showed up a years ago we've noticed an increasing number of older neighbors get or die from cancer way above the average level of such things happening. Ditto for the pet thing which I already mentioned. So even if they're a broken clock they can be right about something. Mind you, you probably don't need the EWG to know this, since I can't remember the last time I heard fish in the water outside in the morning when they used to feed. And there are increasingly more times when the water going downriver is just straight up brown like poo poo. Contrast that to when we moved here, when it was fairly clear and clean unless a hydroelectric dam or something had to open up. Archonex fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Archonex posted:At this point I have to choose between getting a reverse osmosis water purification system and hoping it can handle the load such messed up water has or just switching over to drinking soda and alcohol like i'm in the middle ages to avoid the water as much as I can to avoid this crap. Switch to bottled water if it's not financially onerous for you. There are many natural and industrial/chemical pollutant issues that can require different filters, like with arsenic (organic vs. mineral). Also, gotta myth bust a bit. Some historians have argued alcohol was used as a replacement for polluted water but meh. Alcohol was arguably not a common replacement for water with bacterial or parasite pollutants in medieval times. Even weak alcoholic beverages are not nearly as effectively hydrating (though they can be calorically dense and have other nutrients, which was recognized as useful). People drank water from wells or the freely flowing, potentially polluted water or they boiled water if they thought it was harmful. They made teas or infusions for added flavoring and micronutrients. Also alcohol can be heavily diluted and still have antiseptic properties.
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Cranappleberry posted:Switch to bottled water if it's not financially onerous for you. Yeah, I know about the alcohol being bad back then. Actually, in some cases (especially towards the industrial revolution. Some of that stuff was straight up just toxic chemicals.) it was worse than the already dangerous water. And yeah, i've been using bottled water for years now since I discovered what a borderline poo poo show the water is around here, along with the regulations around it. Haven't had any problems with it yet thankfully. Though given that the brands around here all have PFA's and other potentially harmful chemicals in them due to their own loose regulations i'm probably being forced to trade one problem for another. Archonex fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Bel Shazar posted:This post is basically Critical Race Theory Trap sprung This Is the Zodiac posted:The town of Freepville increased its fire department's budget by $1,000,000 for 2020. In 2020 there were 6 fires which caused a total of $400,000 in damage. For 2021, the fire department's budget stayed the same. In 2021 there were 3 fires which caused a total of $100,000 in damage. The fire department has asked for another $1,000,000 budget increase, which would cause a $0.02 increase in property taxes. How much tax money could the town of Freepville save by eliminating its fire department? Bullshit. It's a trick question. Were any of the fires in black neighborhoods? Did they rent or were they homeowners? I can't calculate unbiased math until I am certain it's not breaking the law here. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Archonex posted:And yeah, i've been using bottled water for years now since I discovered what a borderline poo poo show the water is around here, along with the regulations around it. Haven't had any problems with it yet thankfully. Though given that the brands around here all have PFA's and other potentially harmful chemicals in them due to their own loose regulations i'm probably being forced to trade one problem for another. To the best of my knowledge PFAS aren't used in any process that would put them in bottled water. The extent and degree of actual harms caused by PFAS aren't well-known and are likely overstated by interested parties, and are also likely specific to individual compounds.
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