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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:She also said "his last breath was into a cigar" which suggests at least one them doesn't know how cigars work. Maybe he's in Section 31 and was blowing into a cigar full of sleeping powder so he could make his escape and go undercover and
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May 7, 2022 16:53
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chglcu posted:But I’m really unclear on when WW3 happens in relation to the epilogues of the characters left in the past. WW3 is postponed indefinitely until they don't need to use L.A. as a cheap set.
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May 7, 2022 17:12
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Drunk in Space posted:Marina Sirtis finally just dropping the Troi act completely and going full ... Marina Sirtis.
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https://twitter.com/starfleetdesign/status/1522731899403345921?s=21&t=XGcuJznnDRkroCWdGc09_g
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May 7, 2022 17:16
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It's literally Spock's too, he built it and integrated it into the ship. He's got loads of retro games on there.
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he’s very proud of it
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Minidust posted:Okay so Q wanted to teach Picard to forgive himself about his mother. So he gave Picard a tour of an alternate present, "the end of the road not taken"... in hopes that Picard would steal the Borg Queen, the Borg Queen would correctly identify the point of timeline divergence, and the crew would successfully time travel by their own means to correct that divergence. All so Picard could voluntarily leave the key in the wall, in the past. That is a hell of a lot of variables to hinge a plan on (one might call it a "very poorly-written" plan) but okay! And I still can't figure out the point of anything Q was doing in 2024. Picard stopped being a "look at the screen and pay attention" show before it was made but season 2 is when I learned my lesson. Can I ask what the gently caress is up with that key? I don't remember it coming up before, I can't think of a situation where it would be needed, and I think it might tie into that whole picard trauma thing. Actually, if it ties into that, don't answer. gently caress all that poo poo lmao, didn't happen at all AFAIK
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Crusader posted:https://twitter.com/starfleetdesign/status/1522731899403345921?s=21&t=XGcuJznnDRkroCWdGc09_g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5msrmf5Tw
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May 7, 2022 17:25
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In retrospect it was a big missed opportunity for TMP not to give Spock a biker stache to go with his flowing wig
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Khanstant posted:Picard stopped being a "look at the screen and pay attention" show before it was made but season 2 is when I learned my lesson. Can I ask what the gently caress is up with that key? I don't remember it coming up before, I can't think of a situation where it would be needed, and I think it might tie into that whole picard trauma thing. Actually, if it ties into that, don't answer. gently caress all that poo poo lmao, didn't happen at all AFAIK 2024 Picard had to hide the key so that 2300s Boy Picard could find it and… uhhhh let his mother out so she could kill herself so that Picard would grow up with trauma and not trust the Borg and blow them all back to the evil timeline, restarting the time loop that leads to the resolution of the plot. Q’s 2024 plans still make absolutely no sense whatsoever though, it’s total nonsense.
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Cranappleberry posted:if O'brien DOESN'T get severely injured (preferably in the shoulder) or else end up being tortured in some horrific manner then the writers are hopeless cretins, imo O’Brien gets his face ripped off in a turbolift mishap, and spends the show wearing a Vega-like Street Fighter 2 mask.
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skasion posted:In retrospect it was a big missed opportunity for TMP not to give Spock a biker stache to go with his flowing wig edit: 
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is samuel kirk the dad of james kirk or something like that? he seemed too young for this consider he's about the same age you would expect kirk to be. does kirk have a brother from some random episode? or is this fresh kirk we're getting
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roomtone posted:is samuel kirk the dad of james kirk or something like that? he seemed too young for this consider he's about the same age you would expect kirk to be. does kirk have a brother from some random episode? or is this fresh kirk we're getting He's Kirk's brother that dies in a TOS episode.
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Penitent posted:He's Kirk's brother that dies in a TOS episode. Specifically he died in the giant flying ravioli episode
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Crusader posted:edit: All I see is the Homestar Runner lil' brudder of starships, just puttering around space on one leg, trying his best
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The theme music to Strange New Worlds is just a washed out version of the 60s theme. While I like that they are trying to take Trek back to its roots, I wish they had composed something more vivid and memorable. TNG, DS9, and Voyager all had great memorable themes.
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pik_d posted:Specifically he died in the giant flying ravioli episode And Jim has forgotten about him by the time Star Trek 5 rolls around
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there's a lot to love in operation annihilate but a highlight to me is the debate on what suns are
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DaveKap posted:I say "tried" because I am firmly in the mindset that Picard, as a show, doesn't matter. Neither to canon, television entertainment, nor my sensibilities. It hasn't been/isn't being written by the original writers of TNG and was/is actively being hosed with by lovely producers. Yeah I think in a few years the show will be buried and forgotten, folks aren't going to be recommending it to anyone, not bringing it up in TNG or captain picard discussions. Stewart was basically playing an entirely new character. I don't recall any moments where he acted or sounded like Picard, I do remember one scene where he was walking through a room of echoes of Picard acting like Picard, but he made a deliberate choice to play this new person instead even after the reminder. Big Mean Jerk posted:2024 Picard had to hide the key so that 2300s Boy Picard could find it and… uhhhh let his mother out so she could kill herself so that Picard would grow up with trauma and not trust the Borg and blow them all back to the evil timeline, restarting the time loop that leads to the resolution of the plot. hahaha omg yeah see nobody is going to want to dredge that chain of events back up. also whats up with the evil timeline anyway. like, do those people still exist or only while there's the uhh... nevermind. there's probably something hosed up about collapsing entire timelines, even evil ones, but who cares pod 6 is jerks
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I'm amused that they barely acknowledge Picard being an android in S2.
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That DICK! posted:lol @ at the expectation they'll settle on a "main season villain." Uh they've had a main villain both seasons so far and it's been "The horrifying effects of time on a once great performance"
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Charity Porno posted:It's sort of criminal how good the Picard theme is for how bad a show it is The tone of the theme song fits a few scenes per season, but is otherwise wildly out of sync with the show. It's a great piece of music though. Bubbacub posted:I'm amused that they barely acknowledge Picard being an android in S2. They actually acknowledge it way more than I thought they would, but it has zero consequences and pretty much didn't need to happen. Nichael fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 7, 2022 |
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Charity Porno posted:Uh they've had a main villain both seasons so far and it's been "The horrifying effects of time on a once great performance"
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My reflections after the finale: This rancid season could have been several minutes shorter if they hadn’t separately credited about 20 different executive producers in the intro. Wesley is still a nerd. Q’s last ounce of power being expended resurrecting Elrond or whoever is not satisfying.
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Khanstant posted:Yeah I think in a few years the show will be buried and forgotten, folks aren't going to be recommending it to anyone, not bringing it up in TNG or captain picard discussions. Stewart was basically playing an entirely new character. I don't recall any moments where he acted or sounded like Picard, I do remember one scene where he was walking through a room of echoes of Picard acting like Picard, but he made a deliberate choice to play this new person instead even after the reminder. IDK I followed this thread pretty gosh-darn closely and seems like it was a pretty enjoyable and good season most of the way through with lots of epic moments, like the Stargazer having a briefing room, or Gul Dukat's skull, or Rios going epic gritty on ICE, or Jurati singing, or...Gaius Farking Baltar??? So it didn't nail the finale. I guess now DS9, Game of Thrones, and The Sopranos are now bad because of questionable endings? oooooookay
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When Picard hides the key behind the brick, all my brain could think about was whether the show creaters wanted the audience to believe that it was a good hiding spot that might actually not be discovered for centuries. It's probably the most conspicuous hiding spot I've ever seen
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The Picard finale was bad because its rapid-fire resolution of every plot arc, which sometimes involved just explaining how something will be a good end off-screen, made me imagine a series where each of those arcs were one or two episodes long and told mostly sequentially. A finale episode where everything had already been mostly tied up already so they spend the majority of the episode on the Stargazer figuring out how to work with the new Borg to stop the crisis would have been great! It doesn’t invalidate the fact that I liked the rest of the season but it really left me on a sour note.
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Rios deserved better than dying in a bar fight and his new family did too. I still want the Stargazer series with him as captain, would have been amazing.
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Tiberius Christ posted:Rios deserved better than dying in a bar fight and his new family did too. I still want the Stargazer series with him as captain, would have been amazing. He didn't DIE in a bar fight. He LIVED in a bar fight. Briefly
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Guinan intentionally didn’t tell Picard that Rios died after someone smashed him over the head with an accordion. It was a Polka Bar.
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So q sent picard to an alternate future just so he would go back into the past to try and fix it ... in order to finally allow himself to get over childhood trauma? And along the way he fucks with soong to do shenanigans so that it would lead to him attacking the chateau with borg mercanaries... (that end up embedded in the walls and is never once addressed at all by the picard family for the rest of time) When he could have just snapped his fingers and did none of this to give picard this 'gift' before q dies. Seriously I can't believe human beings wrote it, spent millions of dollars shooting this idea, and no one took the time to say "hey, none of this makes one goddamn bit of sense at all" G-III fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 7, 2022 |
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Bucswabe posted:When Picard hides the key behind the brick, all my brain could think about was whether the show creaters wanted the audience to believe that it was a good hiding spot that might actually not be discovered for centuries. It's probably the most conspicuous hiding spot I've ever seen It makes zero sense because that scene makes it look like it stayed there until kid-Picard used it, which is obviously untrue since earlier he said the key moved all around the house and he wishes it didn't end up in his hand at that time. Clearly it's just a visual metaphor for him accepting his future/past but it's still a bad one!
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:So it didn't nail the finale. I guess now DS9, Game of Thrones, and The Sopranos are now bad because of questionable endings? oooooookay Ever since Game of Thrones ended and the post-bad-finale fires calmed, I've only ever seen people talk about the show in relation to the upcoming shows existing. I've not seen anybody reflect positively on how great the show was until it got bad. I've only seen people reflect poorly on the final 2 seasons and awful finale. Similarly, Mr. Robot and Legion are shows I rarely see people talk about, all because they had really poor closure scenarios that invalidated much of what occurred during the show. Spending the majority of Picard Season 2 in modern day LA for absolutely zero good reason does, in fact, make Picard a bad show. Fidel Cuckstro posted:IDK I followed this thread pretty gosh-darn closely and seems like it was a pretty enjoyable and good season most of the way through with lots of epic moments, like the Stargazer having a briefing room, or Gul Dukat's skull, or Rios going epic gritty on ICE, or Jurati singing, or...Gaius Farking Baltar??? Also I'll admit I've never watched The Sopranos but despite knowing "it's a good show" one of the only facts I know about it is how it ended. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 21:39 on May 7, 2022 |
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Responding to old Prime Directive chat:Charity Porno posted:Do you happen to know where they established that? I don't doubt you, it just seems like there are a ton of ways to exploit that In TNG S1 “Angel One”, they leave some civilians behind on the planet dominated by women, and Data mentions that they can’t force the civvies back into the Enterprise, and civies don’t have to follow the prime directive.
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its kinda fuckin nuts too because rios wasn't just some pirate captain anymore, he was the captain of the USS stargazer in command of hundreds(thousands?) of people. presumably the characters would be just a little concerned about time paradox poo poo especially since rios would never live long enough to ensure the confederate timeline or any other infinite number of bad timelines didnt end up coming to pass. but even then!! even he had full confidence it wouldn't gently caress with the timeline, he'd then know that everything works out in the end and there's no need for him to stay in the past! the ability to help people in a way that does not at all gently caress with the laws of timespace seems like it would be a lot easier if you're in the time you're supposed to be in! his stepson solves global warming or whatever, but someone else had already done that since they didn't collectively react to the kid as "that guy who solves global warming." i guess the person who solved it in timeline A is totally hosed, their legacy ruined, their family all died in a stupid gutter. in 2400 rios was a depressed and uninspired man who was capable of great things if only he gave himself a chance, like that's his character, but in 2024 he's doomed himself to a life that by necessity must be totally meaningless. sucks for Glorzak, the benzite engineer who would have otherwise survived the attack on Blorgon IV had rios been there to timely intervene you can just rant forever about anything with this show, just pick a topic to get pissed off about and you'll write war and peace, but i have to force myself to move onto the absurdly loving lame notion of a person in 2400 thinking cigars are cool as hell. people make fun of the tom paris camaro obsession to this day but at least his camaro wasn't giving him cancer. ah well rios, at least you live in a hopeful idealistic future and not the distant past where magic disease-controlling laser pointers do not exist That DICK! fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 7, 2022 |
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That DICK! posted:its kinda fuckin nuts too because rios wasn't just some pirate captain anymore, he was the captain of the USS stargazer in command of hundreds(thousands?) of people. presumably the characters would be just a little concerned about time paradox poo poo especially since rios would never live long enough to ensure the confederate timeline or any other infinite number of bad timelines didnt end up coming to pass. but even then!! even he had full confidence it wouldn't gently caress with the timeline, he'd then know that everything works out in the end and there's no need for him to stay in the past! the ability to help people in a way that does not at all gently caress with the laws of timespace seems like it would be a lot easier if you're in the time you're supposed to be in! his stepson solves global warming or whatever, but someone else had already done that since they didn't collectively react to the kid as "that guy who solves global warming." i guess the person who solved it in timeline A is totally hosed, their legacy ruined, their family all died in a stupid gutter. in 2400 rios was a depressed and uninspired man who was capable of great things if only he gave himself a chance, like that's his character, but in 2024 he's doomed himself to a life that by necessity must be totally meaningless. sucks for fuckin Glorzak, the benzite engineer Rios would have otherwise survived the attack on Blorgon IV had rios been there to timely intervene I mean a bunch of people in the past got murked, people saw them use the transporter, and Picard was still like "I'm not sure if we hosed time or not" which leads me to believe La Sirena needs CO detectors
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