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Cartoon Man posted:Who’s the highest profile NHLer this season to score no goals? putting aside the defensemen, goaltenders and forwards that only played in a handful of games it's probably Riley Nash? 49 games played on 3 different teams as a forward with 0 goals scored. including defensemen it's Danny Dekeyser who had 11 assists but no goals in 60 games. Duncan Keith only had the 1 goal on the season and is probably the most notable of the near misses  **I for one will always remember Val Nichushkin's 2018-19 season for the Dallas Stars lol. What a legend that big dope is for going to Colorado and turning into an all-star. Starsfan fucked around with this message at 18:08 on May 16, 2022 |
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rex rabidorum vires posted:IIRC I did a post about what the Pens could possible do to improve and compete again and I was looking, but reading that many Rex posts was painful. Can't imagine how much it sucks for the rest of you :P Cool and good effortpost as always. I think there is really only one decision to be made here, and everything else flows from it: overpay in term to re-sign Letang, or don't? Malkin is gone either way, I'm certain. If you do keep Letang then you also keep Rust and Rakell if at all possible and run it back. I don't think 2022 Malkin is an insurmountable loss. E-Rod is going to get overpaid and the Pens won't be able to afford to match in this scenario. If you don't keep Letang then the Pens won't make the playoffs regardless of what else they do. The right play in this scenario is let everyone walk and get in the tank. I'm pretty sure the org decided months ago to move on from both Letang and Malkin. But with Sid still around I can't imagine they will tank. I think they will overpay Rust and sign a replacement for Letang--Klingberg or (deep breath) Tony D. Kapanen sucks and isn't worth a dime more than $1M a year. I'm totally fine just releasing him if no one wants to toss them a token 4th or whatever for his rights. Agreed that I really like Heinen and don't mind a mild overpay to keep him. He's the kind of versatile good bottom sixer/not totally overmatched on the top six player that is really valuable to any team. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 18:18 on May 16, 2022 |
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Ends the season at PPG and 6 in 7 these playoffs. His numbers and production in the series were pretty good...his fancies are really good. I just don't know. So long and off into the sunset of the KHL suits all parties I think and there's no legacy tarnishing nor Pitt saddling themselves with a bad long expensive contract.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Mark Borowiecki or Danny DeKeyser I think. Man the Red Wings roster is full of “I didn’t know this guy was still in the NHL” players.
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May 16, 2022 18:20
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What are the odds the Kraken do anything besides double down on Hakstol?
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May 16, 2022 18:27
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I think Letang is the more likely of the two to leave than Malkin. Malkin has supposedly indicated a willingness to sign for less. I also can't picture Malkin playing anywhere else sans KHL. He doesn't like to deal with media attention and here he never has to. Rust I think is gone no matter what. He's gonna get huge money and term.
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May 16, 2022 18:31
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Cartoon Man posted:Who’s the highest profile NHLer this season to score no goals? I like looking this up for forwards, it's like the "Riley Sheahan" award for the season Joonas Donskoi - 75 GP for the Kraken scoring 2 goals Nick Foligno - 64 GP for the Bruins scoring 2 goals Joel Kiviranta - 56 GP for the Stars scoring 1 goal Starsfan posted:putting aside the defensemen, goaltenders and forwards that only played in a handful of games it's probably Riley Nash? 49 games played on 3 different teams as a forward with 0 goals scored. For zero goals scored Nash is indeed the winner
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May 16, 2022 18:34
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Starsfan posted:Vegas is an excellent head coaching job because you are almost guaranteed a bounce back season and an easy playoff spot next year.. not sure if they can re-take the division from Calgary, but I would bet the bank account on them getting back into the divisional spot next year.. Calgary 's year probably greatly depends on who we can keep from our UFA's
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May 16, 2022 18:37
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Cartoon Man posted:Do the Kraken officially have a group of fans called the Krakheads yet? No their Intersectionality Consultant has made it clear that's unacceptable
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Eric the Mauve posted:Calling it now, Leafs will fire Keefe and hire DeBoer. I don’t have a high opinion of DeBoer, if Dubas is being given rope to call the shots as Friedman indicated today then Keefe is almost certainly gonna stay. Leafs are doing their internal exit talks today so that might change but I doubt it.
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Cartoon Man posted:Do the Kraken officially have a group of fans called the Krakheads yet? I have in fact seen some dude at the arena with krakhead on his jersey but that's about it, op.
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May 16, 2022 18:44
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Glad he got the job, the league has been lacking in coaches who look like supervillains since Guy Boucher got fired
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Calgary 's year probably greatly depends on who we can keep from our UFA's I guess you are including Mangiapane and Tkachuk in the analysis.. how to fit them in while also keeping Gaudreau and filling out the roster.. None of the Flames other UFA's seem that valuable to me. Obviously you can let 3rd pairing garbage men like Gudbranson and Zadorov walk in service of keeping the elite offensive talents on the roster.
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Starsfan posted:I guess you are including Mangiapane and Tkachuk in the analysis.. how to fit them in while also keeping Gaudreau and filling out the roster.. None of the Flames other UFA's seem that valuable to me. Obviously you can let 3rd pairing garbage men like Gudbranson and Zadorov walk in service of keeping the elite offensive talents on the roster. Yeah I forgot Bread Jr. and Matt are only RFA El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 16, 2022 |
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Yeah I think you must absolutely pay Letang. Absolutely do not give him term. Is 3x10 enough to get it done? Probably not. I very much think you have to trade Zucker, but probably won't happen. $5.5 million tied up in a player that can't stay healthy, doesn't fit well in the system, and has not had a positive impact in Pittsburgh. I thought he'd provide a much more balanced game and while he's smart enough and good along the boards he doesn't have the speed nor the hands to be successful in this system. What I think really needs to be added is any kind of finish. Sullivan's system has been able to churn out great expected values....but their finishing has been slightly below par. Filip Foresberg probably costs too much....he'd be nice, Burakovsky, maybe Copp. Trocheck. I think Vatrano and/or Vinnie Hinnostroza fit the system pretty well...but they're more middle 6 fodder that I think fit the system well than adding finish. Ginette Reno posted:I would absolutely let Kapanen walk. Zero interesting qualifying him for what that will cost. Kapanen's QO is $840,000. As much as I very much dislike him I think you *HAVE* to QO him at that price. I was thinking maybe he can be moved for a want away lateral like....Zacha or Magiapane? Something like that. I legit consider Garland too, but I think that would be more a Zucker+ move than anything. Schremp Howard posted:Man the Red Wings roster is full of “I didn’t know this guy was still in the NHL” players. Yeah it's impressive.
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May 16, 2022 19:34
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mentally weak team like the penguins should almost certainly be dismantled. remove everything that's not nailed down and start fresh. great chance at bedard or wright
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Yeah I think you must absolutely pay Letang. Absolutely do not give him term. Is 3x10 enough to get it done? Probably not. I very much think you have to trade Zucker, but probably won't happen. $5.5 million tied up in a player that can't stay healthy, doesn't fit well in the system, and has not had a positive impact in Pittsburgh. I thought he'd provide a much more balanced game and while he's smart enough and good along the boards he doesn't have the speed nor the hands to be successful in this system. What I think really needs to be added is any kind of finish. Sullivan's system has been able to churn out great expected values....but their finishing has been slightly below par. Letting Malkin go to sign Copp or Trocheck feels like a very lateral move at best. It's understandable if the Pens want to get younger and go in a new direction after the latest playoff failures, but it feels pretty unavoidable that they will take a step back in the regular season if they let Malkin/Letang/Rust go, even if they try to replace those guys in FA. Letang I think is the most irreplaceable. I just dunno how you fix the defense with him gone. There's some decent names out there but nobody that can replace what Letang does and I don't think you find that player via trade either. Malkin is more replaceable given his recent decline but Malkin is also gonna come cheaper in both dollars and term than Letang so it may make the most sense to just sign him to a short term deal and then re-evaluate in a few years. Rust is gone no matter what I think. He's gonna get 6+ per year and insane term and I do not think the Penguins ought to give it to him. I agree that I'd like to keep Rakell, provided the term/dollars work out. He seemed to work just fine with both Malkin and Crosby and I think he brings a different kind of element to their lineup. Most of their guys like to play fast and grindy hockey and I like bringing in a different element like that. A guy that can slow it down and show a different pace. One of the nice things about Kessel is he brought such a different dimension to the team than the other lines. I don't like having a lineup that is all one thing. You need a few guys that do it differently. As for Kapanen, I hate the thought of getting stuck with him. Maybe he would come in more motivated next year. If they could qualify him and then move him...maybe. But I doubt there's much interest after the year he just had. I'm very curious what the Pens' plan is.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:I have in fact seen some dude at the arena with krakhead on his jersey but that's about it, op. That sucks. I went to more or less every home game and was continually surprised at how many poor jersey choices the fans made but this might be the worst. A close second was the guy who got J.Sparrow with # 32 and showed up to a couple games in Jack Sparrow cosplay. It was a lot but good for him I guess.
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May 16, 2022 20:10
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Got a philly cheesesteak poutine at Smokes after work. Got home and the bag was full of gravy and cheese. There was a hole in the bottom of the box. My mind immediately thought of the Flyers.
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Ginette Reno posted:Letting Malkin go to sign Copp or Trocheck feels like a very lateral move at best. It's understandable if the Pens want to get younger and go in a new direction after the latest playoff failures, but it feels pretty unavoidable that they will take a step back in the regular season if they let Malkin/Letang/Rust go, even if they try to replace those guys in FA. Letang I think is the most irreplaceable. I just dunno how you fix the defense with him gone. There's some decent names out there but nobody that can replace what Letang does and I don't think you find that player via trade either. Malkin is more replaceable given his recent decline but Malkin is also gonna come cheaper in both dollars and term than Letang so it may make the most sense to just sign him to a short term deal and then re-evaluate in a few years. Rust is gone no matter what I think. He's gonna get 6+ per year and insane term and I do not think the Penguins ought to give it to him. I don't think Copp is going anywhere, however you can overpay for Strome!
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Koopa Kid posted:I don’t have a high opinion of DeBoer, if Dubas is being given rope to call the shots as Friedman indicated today then Keefe is almost certainly gonna stay. Leafs are doing their internal exit talks today so that might change but I doubt it. i think DeBoer is a really good coach but if the Leafs are looking for someone who can help them through some of the emotional/playoff baggage........oof. that would be doubling down in a bad way IMO. Trotz would be great for them. Julien would be a weird choice but could work. i don't think they should go after Torts, he should stay in America.
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PONTUS https://mobile.twitter.com/DetroitRedWings/status/1526291488870699010
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Eric the Mauve posted:
Agree. They have a press conference already, so it's bound to be one of these two. I hope it's not Q, I'd like to continue to care about hockey. https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1526283542992326656?t=ppkAjjM3EMwGXQs45wTBXA&s=19
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Is Pontus Swedish for Jaden or something?
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:i think DeBoer is a really good coach Eh. He's a capable steward of teams that are already good. I've never seen him be much of a difference-maker when teams are floundering.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:What has Dubas done to prove he's a good general manager aside from not trading away the Leafs best players??? Positives in no order 1) Built up the D - Muzzin, Brodie, Lyubushkin, Sandin, Giordano 2) Found cheap goaltending in Campbell 3) Been creative in finding some good players to plug in the gaps at low salary. ( Bunting, Kase, Kampf, Spezza, ) 4) Signed Nylander at an awesome deal that makes up for the cost of some of the other big boys 5) Unloaded a lot of terrible contracts that Lou signed 6) Found additional leaders for the room - mainly jason spezza has been huge for the guys 7) Knew when to walk away from players - Barrie, Hyman, etc. Neutral 1) John Tavares signing. It's both good and bad, his peak and Matthews/Marner peaks didn't quite line up. Contract is gonna look bad soon. (Already does dollar wise) He can still play though and is still a good second line center. Negatives 1) Didn't get "hometown discounts" on big 3 contracts 2) Mzarek contract 3) Bad old dudes - Simmonds, Clifford, Thornton 4) Kadri Trade 5) Used first round picks to unload Lou's garbage I don't think he is necessary a wizard, but I do think his pro scouting has found some real gems. I also like his vision in sticking with this team. There are many worse GMs in the league than Dubas and at this point, all the team can do (tinker with 1m players) is what he's best at. I'd take him over man others in the league and that's half the battle with a GM or coach.
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Chad Sexington posted:Eh. He's a capable steward of teams that are already good. I've never seen him be much of a difference-maker when teams are floundering. He didn't really move the needle in Vegas. They were a very talented, experienced team with an unfortunate tendency to get offensively constipated when you could deny them rush chances, and struggled to develop and integrate young players outside of bottom 4 D men. They're still exactly that.
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DeBoer is the most generic hockey coach imaginable except that he's a giant dickhead even by hockey coach standards. He'd be a big upgrade on Keefe who is wildly in over his head coaching an NHL team, but much better coaches are available and the Leafs should pay up for one. But their incompetent PHO and GM are gonna have to go first.
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Rossi was apparently talking all kinds of poo poo on twitter: https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1526312713483345923?s=20&t=FNIMaIARb07D4oWhPooMGg https://twitter.com/MarkMaddenX/status/1526315870779236354?s=20&t=FNIMaIARb07D4oWhPooMGg The contract stuff may be true. I don't know that I believe the bit about Crosby. Pretty sure if he wanted to play game 6 he would have.
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It could be that Crosby found an independent doctor to say "sure you can play, here's my invoice" and the Pens doctors disagreed. All that said as I've posted before, I am the lone PAS poster that isn't 100% sure Crosby will stay a Penguin for life. I trust this ownership group to build another contender in a few years, but I don't trust them at all to show any respect to the outgoing superstars. Crosby and Letang are BFFs and it's clear the Penguins are going to let Letang walk without making a serious effort to keep him. You don't need Insider Connections to guess Sid is seething about it. Especially since he himself has been dramatically underpaid his entire career in part so his buddies can get paid. I am pretty convinced ownership wants to tank right now and doesn't mind if Sid retires or forces his way out. We'll see. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 22:52 on May 16, 2022 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:It could be that Crosby found an independent doctor to say "sure you can play, here's my invoice" and the Pens doctors disagreed. I'm not so sure about that. Ownership wants to make money, and if the Pens can keep making the playoffs they'll do just that. Can't see them rushing into a rebuild when they can keep cashing in on at least round 1 playoff revenue. Some of the same sources have indicated the new ownership group is taking a long hard look at Burke/Hextall as well. It'd be a pretty chaotic off season if they replaced them and let Malkin/Letang/Rust (or any combination thereof) walk.
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.Spec posted:That sucks. I went to more or less every home game and was continually surprised at how many poor jersey choices the fans made but this might be the worst. I've seen a motherpucker and because I am a 14 year old I have a 69 Nice jersey that I can only wear when I'm not sitting with my wife haha. Surprisingly people love it. They did say, "Any text any number" when I was checking out so it's not my fault.
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Ginette Reno posted:I'm not so sure about that. Ownership wants to make money, and if the Pens can keep making the playoffs they'll do just that. Can't see them rushing into a rebuild when they can keep cashing in on at least round 1 playoff revenue. Totally agree this seems logical, but it doesn't jibe with what the team has been (not) doing. They're gonna let Letang walk which by itself means making the playoffs next year is an uncertain proposition at best. It makes no sense in the context of any strategy besides immediate tanking. If you want to keep banking one series' worth of playoff revenue a year then you give Letang whatever contract he wants, keeping Sid happy, and go from there. I take for granted that Burke and Hextall will be replaced either this summer or next. They were Burkle's guys. Then again, if you want to tank without admitting you're tanking you can't do better than letting Letang and Malkin walk and empowering Brian Burke to pick their replacements! Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 23:00 on May 16, 2022 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:I've seen a motherpucker and because I am a 14 year old I have a 69 Nice jersey that I can only wear when I'm not sitting with my wife haha. Surprisingly people love it. They did say, "Any text any number" when I was checking out so it's not my fault. You'll get to keep happily wearing it, unlike all those people with a Giordano jersey who will keep wearing it out of spite.
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Ginette Reno posted:Rossi was apparently talking all kinds of poo poo on twitter: I think the proper response to anything Rossi says is and always will be "go sell ice cream."
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Mage_Boy posted:I think the proper response to anything Rossi says is and always will be "go sell ice cream." Perhaps. He has some connections but he's kind of a Larry Brooks type where he hears things but he's also inflammatory. I don't doubt that some parts of the things he says are true but I wouldn't be surprised if he's exaggerating things.
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Yeah I don't put any stock in anything Rossi says at all. All the words I puked out above is stuff that's been on my mind for months. Most of which is fairly obvious so Rossi is just making poo poo up and hoping he turns out to be right.
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Rossi can be a clown but he does have some sort of connection to Malkin. He does need to go sell ice cream though.
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Lol quoting Rossi. That's like The Metro level of transfer rumour. Maybe approaching The Sun.
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