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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Trabant posted:

Unless you're literally taking dictation, what's even the point of chasing wpm past... I don't know, 60? Other than bragging rights, I suppose. Even 50 is blazing fast compared to most non-computer touchers.
Dictation has been the only particularly useful aspect of it for me, yes.

But, well.

I remember back when I was in high school, I was seriously looking forward to having a data entry job someday, as I imagined my boss thinking I was the BEST EMPLOYEE EVER and I would get SO MUCH MONEY for my AMAZING SKILLS aaaaaaand nobody literally needs data entry anymore by the time I get out of high school, oops

Every time I took a typing test for a temp agency or the handful of actual data entry-adjacent positions I applied for, I would literally break the test, either by being done before the timer stopped and making them manually figure out my speed or by crashing the program, whatever. I never got a single job as a result of being the objectively best typist in the area (Barbara Blackburn could have smoked me, though; I never got above 160 error-free)

So yes ultimately it has given me precisely no bonuses in life aside from getting a lot of "why are you just hitting keys randomly?" comments from people, and a few presenters asking if I could please stop taking notes

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I was at my local collectors barn, saw this 1351 mouse and had to get it:







Looks pretty complete other than some wear and tear on the mouse itself. Haven't tested it yet on my C64

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
Man, nothing's made in Hong Kong anymore. Now everything's made in China.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Man that comment takes me back to my bigbox retail days, when a dude came in and specifically bought an entire pallet of VAIO machines because they were Made in Japan.

Guy would not shut up about it but also wouldn’t elaborate on why that was important to him.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

barbecue at the folks posted:

Yeah, a a dedicated Photoshop chord keyboard thingie would 100% end up as one of those things that in someone's head sounds like it would make perfect sense ("a dedicated device for the hotkeys that you use hundreds of times every day!") that ends up just taking desk space unused because the computer already comes with a keyboard that everyone has already learned to use properly. The gains brought by a dedicated device would be way too marginal to actually justify the effort of buying one and forcing yourself to actually use it over the regular keyboard that you'll end up reaching towards anyways.

Nah artists love the gently caress out of some dedicated function key devices. Not really chord keyboards though, just ones that can do what otherwise would be a multi-key combination with one keypress.

https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/5707
https://www.digital-epigraphy.com/reviews/xencelabs-quick-keys-remote-promises-a-more-streamlined-workflow-for-digital-artists

Hell, a lot of the more higher end drawing tablets come with/used to come with programmable function keys built into the bezels of the device. Keyboard shortcuts for art/image editing/etc programs are incredibly annoying to memorize because they're almost all key combinations, and depending on what specific tool you're reaching for might even be impossible to do one handed without a serious stretch on a traditional keyboard.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


ishikabibble posted:

Nah artists love the gently caress out of some dedicated function key devices. Not really chord keyboards though, just ones that can do what otherwise would be a multi-key combination with one keypress.


Yeah, I was talking out of my rear end there. The comparison to music gear is pretty apt, I have owned a bunch of USB MIDI controllers over the years that are, well, just boxes full of pressure-sensitive buttons, sliders etc to do something you would otherwise have to use a mouse and keyboard for (and which would suck rear end to use).

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

And then you get things like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn8ExQ2Gjg

Seriously though, binding things like copy/paste to extra mouse buttons is the best thing I've ever done, productivity-wise.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

History Comes Inside! posted:

Man that comment takes me back to my bigbox retail days, when a dude came in and specifically bought an entire pallet of VAIO machines because they were Made in Japan.

Guy would not shut up about it but also wouldn’t elaborate on why that was important to him.

He was from YOSPOS. I hope I will not have to elaborate on THAT.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

And then you get things like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn8ExQ2Gjg

Seriously though, binding things like copy/paste to extra mouse buttons is the best thing I've ever done, productivity-wise.

I have the G600 mouse and I have all 12 side buttons + alt 12 side buttons set to various macros for windows navigation and chrome navigation, and it's incredible how efficiently I can waste time.

e, c:

LifeSunDeath has a new favorite as of 17:36 on Jul 17, 2022

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"


I can smell this photo at the same time i’m hearing it.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Peak 1990s.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Gonz posted:



I can smell this photo at the same time i’m hearing it.

10/10 would play X-Com Apocalypse and Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Forgotten Realms Baldur's Gate on, while resting one foot on a half-opened drawer.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

3D Megadoodoo posted:

10/10 would play X-Com Apocalypse and Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Forgotten Realms Baldur's Gate on, while resting one foot on a half-opened drawer.

Insert disc 4

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

3D Megadoodoo posted:

10/10 would play X-Com Apocalypse and Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Forgotten Realms Baldur's Gate on, while resting one foot on a half-opened drawer.

Hell, same. But i’d also throw in Starsiege Tribes and Sim City 2000. Also, Titanic: Adventure Out of Time.

And then, randomly, between 2-3 AM, there would be a large CRACK sound generated by this setup.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Gonz posted:

And then, randomly, between 2-3 AM, there would be a large CRACK sound generated by this setup.

Yeah I tried to stand up.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Gonz posted:



I can smell this photo at the same time i’m hearing it.

god it's like im there again

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Gonz posted:



I can smell this photo at the same time i’m hearing it.

This has to be a photoshop, because all real ones would have the printer on a shelf where your knees are supposed to go.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sweevo posted:

This has to be a photoshop, because all real ones would have the printer on a shelf where your knees are supposed to go.

I tried to find more pictures of "90s computer desk" but found a lovely "REMEMBER THESE HIT ITEMS FROM THE 90S?!?" article instead and, no I don't:



Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019
Maybe it's because of how short I am but I felt like those sliding keyboard trays did nothing but make me choose between a keyboard that's too low or a monitor that's jacked way up in the air when it came to seat height.

Also those inflatable chairs were really satisfying to fart on.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"


Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Dip Viscous posted:

Maybe it's because of how short I am but I felt like those sliding keyboard trays did nothing but make me choose between a keyboard that's too low or a monitor that's jacked way up in the air when it came to seat height.

Also those inflatable chairs were really satisfying to fart on.

I discovered last week that my parents are still doggedly using a desk with a sliding drawer that they bought like ten years ago and just assumed that the fact that the keyboard tray does not slide out past like 2" beyond the lip of the desk is just because they're clueless about tech :smith:

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Boomer parents never stopped using those types of desks. I know mine still have one.

A corner model that of course also contains an inkjet multifunction printer.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Boomer parents never stopped using those types of desks. I know mine still have one.

A corner model that of course also contains an inkjet multifunction printer.

I think the only reason my parents don't use one now, is because they moved twice since the 90's

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


We were rich so had a handmade Rolltop desk for the parents business office. This was prior to computers but mum had an electric typewriter in there:





When we got our first computer the monitor wouldn't fit in the rolltop so had to sit on top, fantastic for ergonomics.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


I'm the cat attack position.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016



I remember looking so hard back in the day for a corner/L-shaped computer table with keyboard tray that did NOT force the computer into that diagonal part, which struck me as a giant waste of space.

I ended up inheriting a roommate’s when he moved out and disassembled and reassembled it through like 5 different apartments before it finally fell apart, several times having to add my own brackets to bolster its increasingly rickety particleboard construction.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I have a many-pieces desk like that that I've had for like 20 years and has traveled with me through like six moves, some cross-country.

I haven't even reassembled it the last couple of iterations. It's still in fine shape though, all things considered

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




I want 90s pc desks to be the next throwback trend

I didn’t realise how much I missed them until now

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Is there an easily printable guide that can help identify different cards by their connectors (ISA,PCI, PCI Express, AGP, etc as well as their various iterations?)? I just wound up with literal boxes of various cards and I need to sort them.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I'm the cat attack position.

i'm the scanner, used precisely twice since the computer was purchased 13 years ago

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

History Comes Inside! posted:

I want 90s pc desks to be the next throwback trend

I didn’t realise how much I missed them until now
Yeah a desk in that style that was actually built to fit modern-sized towers and monitors would be pretty rad

I still have one but my MS-DOS rig made out of a hollowed out 1997 Packard Bell finally died in 2020 so I have nothing that really fits in it now :(:(:(

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sweevo posted:

i'm the scanner, used precisely twice since the computer was purchased 13 years ago

Yeah but in the 1990s people used scanners a lot.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




3D Megadoodoo posted:

Yeah but in the 1990s people used scanners a lot.

My friends’ mum scanned her boobs once and I know this because we were on the computer and opened the folder that said don’t open, because we were 11.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

In my experience, that style of desk, with special compartments for computer components, would never have all the compartments sized correctly for you. Your printer would be a little too wide for its intended cubbyhole, or your monitor a little too tall, or a cable not quite long enough to snake through the holes at the back. This was a law of nature.

Also, I don't know how people stand using slide-out keyboard trays. Let's see, I use the keyboard more or less constantly, where to put it, where to put it... I know! On a fragile little platform that sits way too low and moves when you try to use it or when you bump it with the arm of your chair, and which by its very nature must leave a big loop of cable hanging down onto your knees. This makes so much more sense than just putting it on the actual surface of the desk where it will sit solidly at the correct height, for reasons that I'm sure will come to me.

Yeah, I don't miss those overcomplicated 90s computer desks. Just give me a nice big flat table.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The keyboard-tray style was for when you only used your desk for computering part-time, I think. It was supposed to make it so you could slide the drawer in and then scoot closer so you could use the regular desk surface to write checks or like ... write in your diary or whatever people did with "pens" and "paper"

Of course as time went on it was just a coolness feature and desks without a slide-out tray just seemed cheaper, so they had to have one for no good reason.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Data Graham posted:

The keyboard-tray style was for when you only used your desk for computering part-time, I think. It was supposed to make it so you could slide the drawer in and then scoot closer so you could use the regular desk surface to write checks or like ... write in your diary or whatever people did with "pens" and "paper"

Of course as time went on it was just a coolness feature and desks without a slide-out tray just seemed cheaper, so they had to have one for no good reason.

How, ON TOP OF THE MONITOR?!?!?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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like loving AQUAMAN

I know a lot of the original transformer desks were marketed with like an IBM XT stuck diagonally in the corner so your desk surface was clear.

(and so your neck would develop a permanent crick)

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Hey remember the smell when you'd open up a cabinet? It was like saw dust, glue, laminate smell, but also floppies or cd plastic smells. Also old game boxes had a specific smell. Oh and a dot matrix printer had a specific smell.

Anyway, thanks for going down olfactory nostalgia road with me.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I miss tractor paper.


drat

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Broderbund's whole business model, up in smoke when sheet-feed became a thing

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