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funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

KitConstantine posted:

A bunch of artists on Twitter did some alex jones portraits

Ben Sears seems to be under the impression that Alex has engorged himself on the Chili of Forgetting, and were I Alex I'd like to forget the last 3 days myself.

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pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Lawlicaust posted:

Which is pretty strongly supported by Bankston asking them on like Day 9/10 of the waiting period in court why they weren't responding to his emails.

"Are you loving with us and waiting out the clock as a last minute troll? Or are you really this stupid"

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



I am still in awe of Reynal not even realizing he has given away his client's full phone image. Just astronomical levels of idiocy.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
I like that Reynal didn't even react to them saying they had his phone image

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

SalTheBard posted:

In case anyone that didn't see the thread wants to see it,

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4008312&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=102#post525291340

Here is where the nuclear bomb drops about getting the phone

Thanks for this. When I got home from work and heard what happened I needed to to see everyone lose their loving minds.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I like the idea that he didn't react because he had previously believed Jones when he told him there were no texts and emails on the phone.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
I kind of wonder how far back the Jones phone image is honestly if it goes all the way back to Jan 6th.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
regardless of everything, the snapback procedure only allows for retrieval of privileged information. not everything on jones' phone is privileged. certainly anything attorney/client communications would fall under such protection, but most stuff on the phone would not be privileged. Likewise, any of the stuff that would normally be privileged can lose such protection if, say, they're discussing bankruptcy fraud.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Hollismason posted:

I kind of wonder how far back the Jones phone image is honestly if it goes all the way back to Jan 6th.

2-3 years which goes back to the start of the pandemic or before.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

So the cap on punitive damage.

Is there any reason why the Jury can't be told about that?

I mean it seems like fairly essential information for a jury to be aware of to me.

What if a random jury member just happens to know about it and mentions the cap to everyone, or heard there is such a thing and asks the Judge for details?

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Hollismason posted:

I must have missed this , so they specifically calledo ut in court that they were ignoring the emails?

It was during one of the breaks

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Inceltown posted:

Alex Jonestown Massacre

This was my Steam name for a couple of years

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

Deptfordx posted:

So the cap on punitive damage.

Is there any reason why the Jury can't be told about that?

I mean it seems like fairly essential information for a jury to be aware of to me.

I mean what if a random jury member just happens to know about it and mentions the cap to everyone, or heard there is such a thing and asks the Judge for details?

Because if the jury was aware they could in theory award more compensatory damages in this phase to offset the cap. It mostly exists because Republicans don't want lawyers to get rich because they think plaintiff lawyers are generally more left wing.

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Hollismason posted:

They probably didn't entitled it " We got all of Alex's Jones phone, what do we do with it", instead they probably sent something that said " We need to notify you of receipt of documents" or some other innocuous email subject line, the lawyers for the defense then ignored it because they were ignoring all of the plaintiffs emails , and have done that for like several years.

I must have missed this , so they specifically calledo ut in court that they were ignoring the emails?

This started some of the whole flipping off thing. No specifics to why but Bankston wanted to talk with them about something and there was this whole exchange about them not responding to his emails and do they even have his phone number.

Basically, Reynal has been doing the classic lovely attorney thing and ignoring emails near trial so that he can claim “I was unaware of this. I did not agree to this. I didn’t have enough notice to review it.” But in this case, that strategy completely dfucked him.

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
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Scipiotik posted:

Because if the jury was aware they could in theory award more compensatory damages in this phase to offset the cap. It mostly exists because Republicans don't want lawyers to get rich because they think plaintiff lawyers are generally more left wing.

I disagree. It’s not a political party thing really.

Damage Caps are part of a long-term strategy by the insurance industry to reduce the amount of money they have to pay in court. As a whole, the insurance industry has engaged in a large scale company to do jury tampering through marketing/bad press of cases (think Liebeck vs McDonalds), damage caps, portrayals of plaintiffs and plaintiff attorneys as greedy. This is not just limited to Rs. There are lots of poo poo dems that support damage caps too

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Doesn't look like there's a livestream, I wonder if it's going to be gone until the jury is ready. Not like there's anything to see but I was going to leave it on in the background.

Borscht
Jun 4, 2011

I'm starting a organizational efficiency consultancy to offer services specifically to humiliated organizations and it looks like I have my first customer.

fake edit: I chickened out before even calling them

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Raged posted:

Thanks for this. When I got home from work and heard what happened I needed to to see everyone lose their loving minds.

I've linked the quoted post in the OP for posterity

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
Going to recommend you subscribe/sign up for notifications on Travis County 459th District Court Youtube here, once it comes live it the decision will likely come down pretty quickly.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I can see why the Insurance industry wants this. My question was more, has there ever been any attempt at justification why the Jury aren't entitled to know what I would argue was vital information for the decision they are tasked to make.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Mr. Nice! posted:

2-3 years which goes back to the start of the pandemic or before.

My Alex-Jones-Tinfoil-Hat Conspiracy around the phone is that some Senators or other people in the government were telling Jones that Jan 6th was going down, and that they need him to tell his listeners that the insurrection is a good thing when it's happening. The fact that Jones was reportedly asking if the texts to "the senator" were included and the sudden interest of the Jan 6th Committee, it makes me think that someone was telling Jones the insurrection was going to happen a day or two in advance.

Lol if Alex Jones's phone is the Rosetta Stone of the insurrection, allowing the committee to connect everything together. That'd be a hell of a story for the history books.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

Deptfordx posted:

So the cap on punitive damage.

What if a random jury member just happens to know about it and mentions the cap to everyone, or heard there is such a thing and asks the Judge for details?
From one of my juror experiences in a different state about a decade ago:

Jurors bringing it up among themselves — ok.
Jurors then looking it up on the internet while in deliberation — not ok.
Asking judge — judge not allowed to answer.

Judge said, after the trial, it would have been ok if one of the lawyers brought it up during the trial. But neither of them did.

Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003

MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER

Piell posted:

Going to recommend you subscribe/sign up for notifications on Travis County 459th District Court Youtube here, once it comes live it the decision will likely come down pretty quickly.

I think the judge said yesterday once the jury signals they have a verdict, the lawyers have 10 minutes to get back.

Everett False
Sep 28, 2006

Mopsy, I'm starting to question your medical credentials.

Lawlicaust posted:

Which is pretty strongly supported by Bankston asking them on like Day 9/10 of the waiting period in court why they weren't responding to his emails.

Did anyone get a clear clip of this? I know someone said it was right before Reynal flipped off Bankston (lmao) but the only clips I can find start after that. I want to watch with my knowledge of the future and bask.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

funeral home DJ posted:


Lol if Alex Jones's phone is the Rosetta Stone of the insurrection, allowing the committee to connect everything together. That'd be a hell of a story for the history books.

I really, really, really hope this is what finally undoes a LOT of republicans' careers. Cold hard evidence of their treachery and stupidity, getting them ALL in immense legal trouble.

If so, this might end up being bigger than Watergate.

Bloatedgate.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Deptfordx posted:

I can see why the Insurance industry wants this. My question was more, has there ever been any attempt at justification why the Jury aren't entitled to know what I would argue was vital information for the decision they are tasked to make.

... exactly what they described with preventing the jury from moving what should be punitive, into compensatory because they know it will be capped. That was written into the law, for that exact purpose.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/CP/htm/CP.41.htm

quote:

(e) The provisions of this section may not be made known to a jury by any means, including voir dire, introduction into evidence, argument, or instruction.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Deptfordx posted:

So the cap on punitive damage.

Is there any reason why the Jury can't be told about that?

I mean it seems like fairly essential information for a jury to be aware of to me.

What if a random jury member just happens to know about it and mentions the cap to everyone, or heard there is such a thing and asks the Judge for details?

The texas code that puts the cap on punitive damages also prevents everyone in the case from telling the jury about it.

Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code 41.008(e) posted:

The provisions of this section may not be made known to a jury by any means, including voir dire, introduction into evidence, argument, or instruction.

If a member of the jury wants to talk about it because they know about it, there's nothing wrong with that as far as I can tell.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

Lawlicaust posted:

I disagree. It’s not a political party thing really.

Damage Caps are part of a long-term strategy by the insurance industry to reduce the amount of money they have to pay in court. As a whole, the insurance industry has engaged in a large scale company to do jury tampering through marketing/bad press of cases (think Liebeck vs McDonalds), damage caps, portrayals of plaintiffs and plaintiff attorneys as greedy. This is not just limited to Rs. There are lots of poo poo dems that support damage caps too

There are poo poo Dems of course, but it is very much a plank for the Republican party. There can be multiple reasons that a thing happens and when interests align lovely people like Republicans and insurance companies will work together.

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Everett False posted:

Did anyone get a clear clip of this? I know someone said it was right before Reynal flipped off Bankston (lmao) but the only clips I can find start after that. I want to watch with my knowledge of the future and bask.

I can't find any clip that doesn't start with the flipping off. It started in the few minutes before because they were arguing about videos for evidence. Reynal was complaining about not knowing what their videos were and that he didn't have notice to prepare. Obviously because he's ignoring their emails.

You get a little bit of it at the end of the flip off clip where they have some back and forth about talking.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011
Absolutely basking thinking about Alex Jones clapping his lawyer on the back two days ago and going "we did pretty good, right?". Ahhh,

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Did Alex Jones' defense call him as their only witness? It seems pretty incredible to me, like surely you could find a crank psychologist to testify about how death threats are no big deal or some dipshit professor to testify about how all information is spread via messaging apps and Alex Jones isn't the main component of misinformation spreading.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Eeyo posted:

Did Alex Jones' defense call him as their only witness? It seems pretty incredible to me, like surely you could find a crank psychologist to testify about how death threats are no big deal or some dipshit professor to testify about how all information is spread via messaging apps and Alex Jones isn't the main component of misinformation spreading.

Yes, that was their only witness. The plaintiffs will be putting him back on the stand for punitive damages.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I really, really, really hope this is what finally undoes a LOT of republicans' careers.

Temper your expectations.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Nessus posted:

Donald Trump has promised him all the frogs he can gently caress in exchange for his support on Jan 6 2021

Is that really something the president can do

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

For those who haven't seen Succession, Culkin's character intended to send a dick pic to an older woman he's been flirting with, but instead sent it to his dad.

i feel like this is a normal plotline in porn

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


bird with big dick posted:

Is that really something the president can do

Under Frog Law the president has broad authority.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

bird with big dick posted:

Is that really something the president can do

Make promises? yeah they do it all the time

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

funeral home DJ posted:


Lol if Alex Jones's phone is the Rosetta Stone of the insurrection, allowing the committee to connect everything together. That'd be a hell of a story for the history books.

Alex Jones, remembered in future history books as the hero who saved The Republic :psyduck:

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

bird with big dick posted:

Is that really something the president can do

They manipulate gas prices all the time! What are a few frogs in the bucket?

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Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Mr. Nice! posted:

2-3 years which goes back to the start of the pandemic or before.

Considering the specific text he had from Paul Joseph Watson was about a early COVID conspiracy and we consider that to be the first text he has just as a guess then the archive of messages would go back to the Spring of 2020.


Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I really, really, really hope this is what finally undoes a LOT of republicans' careers. Cold hard evidence of their treachery and stupidity, getting them ALL in immense legal trouble.

If so, this might end up being bigger than Watergate.

Bloatedgate.

I'll accept IodineGate or BrainForceGate

I think we'll find some stuff that looks bad on the phone, but maybe nothing illegal with elected officials. Probably more stuff from Stewart Rhodes and the various Proud Boys he was affiliated with. He was trying to yell at people to not storm the Capitol on J6, so I don't know how much conspiratorial thinking I'll put into him working with Cruz or whoever to overthrow the government.

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