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Spanish Manlove posted:He wasn't allergic to money, he was allergic to effort. He just refused to do any amount of work, at all. Even avoiding the slight bit of effort behind checking to see if a programmer wasn't a complete idiot. Just a spoiled rich kid who never grew up It's impossible to overstate the level to which he just didn't put a single scintilla of effort into this place yeah Like every single time he was bitching about someone he was lying afaict Frank Frank posted:My two cents? He was a relatively intelligent guy who was born into generational wealth that had an idea at the dawn of a technical revolution that could have been A Big Deal(TM). I don’t think he was an “evil” person and I don’t think he meant to harm anyone but he got addicted to <x>, perhaps through no fault of his own. Addict behavior is sometimes out of character and although near the end you could totally still see flashes of the guy he was, he was just too far gone into booze and pills to come back without some sort of serious intervention. I don't think you're wrong, it's just that's what bad people look like. No-one really thinks they are a bad person
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Dude was an idiot, an addict and an abusive shithead but he could have just been a fun idiot doofus instead of those other things and that’s kinda sad. I dunno.sebmojo posted:I don't think you're wrong, it's just that's what bad people look like. No-one really thinks they are a bad person You are very likely correct and that’s more than a little depressing. Welp, that’s enough internet for me today. Frank Frank fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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i consider myself incredibly loving slow on picking this up, but i think it was around zdr even my dumbass was like "boy it sure seems like every person that lowtax does any business with is a treacherous liar, what a weird coincidence" you know, you go around all day and meet nothing but assholes etc etc
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Frank Frank posted:Dude was an idiot, an addict and an abusive shithead but he could have just been a fun idiot doofus instead of those other things and that’s kinda sad. I dunno. chill out man people are weird and contradictory and its a sad fact of humanity
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grimly shedding a tear for the tarnished soul of the man who ran the pig balls website
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ArfJason posted:chill out man people are weird and contradictory and its a sad fact of humanity
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sebmojo posted:It's impossible to overstate the level to which he just didn't put a single scintilla of effort into this place yeah The tragedy of Lowtax is that it would have been easy for him to not be a bad person. In fact it probably would have been easier on him over all. But he made his choices and they ruined his life and hosed over the lives of others.
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Arrhythmia posted:I'm going to start trying to get money out of people by telling them to give me money in the middle of my messages. Give me money. Let's see if it works. DM me your bank details
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sweet geek swag posted:The tragedy of Lowtax is that it would have been easy for him to not be a bad person. In fact it probably would have been easier on him over all. But he made his choices and they ruined his life and hosed over the lives of others. well if he was a better person i imagine he wouldn't have gotten quite so many cookies or drugs, so from his perspective i imagine it was a fair trade
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CoolCab posted:well if he was a better person i imagine he wouldn't have gotten quite so many cookies or drugs, so from his perspective i imagine it was a fair trade Cookies and drugs vs the love of your family, truly can we judge this man? Yes, yes we can.
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I brought this up in the cursed image thread a couple days ago, but elise the great made chili out of her own placenta. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3844826&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post479715547
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I brought this up in the cursed image thread a couple days ago, but elise the great made chili out of her own placenta. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3844826&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post479715547 
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ArfJason posted:chill out man people are weird and contradictory and its a sad fact of humanity every time people post like that i have to wonder how insanely sheltered they are. skin like printer paper
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My favorite part about the whole thing is once Matt reveals that he is a crazy person, this is the very next post: Black Baby Goku posted:Awesome, thank you Matt. You can count me as a fan for sure
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CountryMatters posted:This reminds me, was there ever any drama or a story around the total ban on pokemon games in the Let's Play subforum a few years back? It was a combination of a ton of pretty lovely Pokmeon LPs, and one particular low point where someone was playing a Pokmeon Mystery Dungeon game. In the first pair of Mystery Dungeon games, you're canonically a human who was turned into a Pokemon somehow, and you take a personality quiz to determine what Pokemon you are. The LP apparently got into some weird roleplaying around the whole thing, which lead to the thread crashing and burning and the ban being instated for a long time. ulvir posted:sure, that guy was a dipshit, but the ban reason was extremely bitchmade. There were a lot of pretty weak "we're banning you because we think you're trolling" bans back then tbh.
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Spanish Manlove posted:That would have involved more than zero effort dude was supernaturally consistent at this one thing Frank Frank posted:The way he presented it to me was “my crazy abusive wife has kidnapped my child and is fleeing to Canada. How do I stop her?” I spent a bunch of time and energy yelling about how lowtax's stories were just piles of red flags on top of red flags and emphatically were just one side of the story, which yknow, they were, but also I think people just naturally do not perceive those red flags unless they've had some reason to see sort of the macro-process of how domestic dispute stuff always plays out. There's always two sides to a story and if you specifically aren't hearing one side, it's by design. Even for people who aren't being deliberately lovely and do deserve the benefit of the doubt, they'll still be telling a story that casts them in a more favorable light just because that's how people process intense things and create their own narratives out of experiences. Once you have an actual dirtbag involved, all bets are really off with just how much they'll manipulate the version of events they tell to cast themselves as the beleaguered good person and the other partner as the scheming, manipulative monster. That said, I don't think there's really a way to not be naive to that stuff without having seen it before hand. It sucks for everyone involved that people were pretty naive to it at first, but to this place's credit, a pretty complete 180 happened and a ton of people learned a valuable lesson about never taking one side of a domestic dispute as the entirety of a situation. idk, that whole situation was pretty fuckin sad, but I think it got rid of a bunch of unhealthy culty poo poo that had been lingering on SA since the early days Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Aug 7, 2022 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:It was a combination of a ton of pretty lovely Pokmeon LPs, and one particular low point where someone was playing a Pokmeon Mystery Dungeon game. In the first pair of Mystery Dungeon games, you're canonically a human who was turned into a Pokemon somehow, and you take a personality quiz to determine what Pokemon you are. The LP apparently got into some weird roleplaying around the whole thing, which lead to the thread crashing and burning and the ban being instated for a long time. We still get a lot of whiny 'this guy is trolling' reports, which are righteously misced unless it's really egregious/annoying
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Spanish Manlove posted:He wasn't allergic to money, he was allergic to effort. He just refused to do any amount of work, at all. Even avoiding the slight bit of effort behind checking to see if a programmer wasn't a complete idiot. Just a spoiled rich kid who never grew up That reminds me of a short butst of drama. During either the lead up to, or aftermath of, the creation of TGRS, Negromancer decided that Lowtax had to be skimming CC numbers from the forums, and got banned and fired from his job for doing cyber crimes to try and prove it. I don't think Koalas March weighed in on it, but I'm pretty sure TB also bought into it. It was super obvious to anyone paying attention that Negromancer was full of poo poo because collecting that sort of data from transactions and covertly turning it into real money without immediately getting caught would have required far more effort and foresight than Lowtax ever put into anything.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:That reminds me of a short butst of drama. There was also the time that people were clamoring for him to be a mod, and ZDR came into the thread and asked "hmm, well, before we do that, could you please explain why you attempted an SQL attack on us at such and such date?". Negromancer's response was he left his automatic-sql-attacker on.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I spent a bunch of time and energy yelling about how lowtax's stories were just piles of red flags on top of red flags and emphatically were just one side of the story, which yknow, they were, but also I think people just naturally do not perceive those red flags unless they've had some reason to see sort of the macro-process of how domestic dispute stuff always plays out. Yeah, I didn't say it at the time because it would have been yelling into the wind and I also didn't want to get banned, but I used to work in domestic-violence advocacy, and Lowtax's stories were absolute textbook "abuser painting self as victim" stuff. The repeated emphasis on how he never hit or beat her (because so many people still consider physical abuse as the only form of spousal abuse), the vague assertions that she was "crazy," referring to her "stealing" from the joint account when there's no evidence she had any other finances (and tons of evidence that he was keeping her financially dependent on him), treating their child as his sole property and suddenly becoming passionate about fatherhood when the kid's being "stolen"... I don't blame people for not recognizing it, but it could have been a Lundy Bancroft case study.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:That reminds me of a short butst of drama. Arrhythmia posted:There was also the time that people were clamoring for him to be a mod, and ZDR came into the thread and asked "hmm, well, before we do that, could you please explain why you attempted an SQL attack on us at such and such date?". Negromancer's response was he left his automatic-sql-attacker on. Don't suppose either of you happen to have links to those threads? Sounds entertaining.
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EasilyConfused posted:Don't suppose either of you happen to have links to those threads? Sounds entertaining. Here's the other guy's. This wasn't the only time negromancer did this, but it's at least one example. My example is somewhere in the archives in the 2016-ish US politics DND thread and I'm not up to digging through that monolith.
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Arrhythmia posted:Here's the other guy's. This wasn't the only time negromancer did this, but it's at least one example. My example is somewhere in the archives in the 2016-ish US politics DND thread and I'm not up to digging through that monolith. Appropriate it that it happened in the bad with money thread. Edit: Also that thread is wonky when changing between pages. Presumably from ZDR deleting all their posts (for whatever reason). Edit2: Somehow FAU got called racist for banning negromancer. EasilyConfused fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Aug 7, 2022 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:It was a combination of a ton of pretty lovely Pokmeon LPs, and one particular low point where someone was playing a Pokmeon Mystery Dungeon game. In the first pair of Mystery Dungeon games, you're canonically a human who was turned into a Pokemon somehow, and you take a personality quiz to determine what Pokemon you are. The LP apparently got into some weird roleplaying around the whole thing, which lead to the thread crashing and burning and the ban being instated for a long time. the "no pokemon" rule was etablished before i was an LP mod but this was the reason afaik. the rule has since been recinded.
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EasilyConfused posted:
This was a hilarious saga of it's own. ZDR melted down over some disagreement with Lowtax and tired to delete all their own posts from the database. This broke a ton of poo poo, and Lowtax poo poo all over ZDR, until out of nowhere now it was a mistake and now ZDR was the good guy again. Then later ZDR asked for a bunch of money from posters and disappeared.
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Peachfart posted:This was a hilarious saga of it's own. ZDR melted down over some disagreement with Lowtax and tired to delete all their own posts from the database. This broke a ton of poo poo, and Lowtax poo poo all over ZDR, until out of nowhere now it was a mistake and now ZDR was the good guy again. Then later ZDR asked for a bunch of money from posters and disappeared. they also removed tori's access to all forums except E/N and Tori created about one trillion alts to try to get around it lmao
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Sally posted:the "no pokemon" rule was etablished before i was an LP mod but this was the reason afaik. the rule has since been recinded. I recall slowbeef also mentioning that a bunch of pokemon LPs were effectively the same thing in regards to commentary. "Huh, where am I? Who is this professor? I'm gonna give a snarky response. My name is DICKS"
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Peachfart posted:This was a hilarious saga of it's own. ZDR melted down over some disagreement with Lowtax and tired to delete all their own posts from the database. This broke a ton of poo poo, and Lowtax poo poo all over ZDR, until out of nowhere now it was a mistake and now ZDR was the good guy again. Then later ZDR asked for a bunch of money from posters and disappeared. i remember everyone loudly insisting that, no, ZDR hadn't melted down and almost crippled the forums, it was just a freak technical difficulty, sea lion. and then ZDR came back and made up some story about needing money and how this work on the forums would get done, i swear... then he just vanished and, no, you couldn't comment don't how dumb that was either, chud.
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I still don't fully understand the ZDR situation, like he clearly hosed with the site while deleting his own posts, but anything involving Lowtax is still a mystery. I mean by default I would believe ZDR over Lowtax 100% of the time, because.. well, you know
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I wish he'd come back even just to make a single post describing all the poo poo that happened from his viewpoint, because it would be an interesting read.
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yeah wasn't part of the thing about needing money being bc lowtax never sent him some or something???
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Roth posted:I think spiting Lowtax owns This but all mods/admins
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i remember telling zdr that Lowtax sounded like a wife beater with the way he constantly lies and everything is someone else's fault and he's trying so hard but nobody ever gives him a chance! anyway like a year later it came out that he was in fact a wife beater. guess my stupid rear end can be right once and a while.
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Larry Parrish posted:i remember telling zdr that Lowtax sounded like a wife beater with the way he constantly lies and everything is someone else's fault and he's trying so hard but nobody ever gives him a chance! anyway like a year later it came out that he was in fact a wife beater. guess my stupid rear end can be right once and a while. what, lowtax a wife beater? larry, parrish the thought
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Leal posted:I recall slowbeef also mentioning that a bunch of pokemon LPs were effectively the same thing in regards to commentary. "Huh, where am I? Who is this professor? I'm gonna give a snarky response. My name is DICKS" yah that was part of it. lots of people wanting to be LP superstars dumping garbage threads.
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