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Ches Neckbeard posted:Hackett hired a man to tell him when to kick field goals and still didn't kick the field goal. You don't play for the tie lol
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a neat cape posted:You don't play for the tie lol They should.
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If you take it as a given that Hackett deserves to be fired there’s still the question of who fires him? I can’t imagine Paton is eager to fire the guy that he hired after only five games. That’s basically signing your own termination papers. There’s no way you recover from that as a GM, and that’s not even getting into what a disaster the Russ trade is looking like. So Paton has every incentive to try and keep Hackett around and hope against hope he figures poo poo out. Which means you’re probably looking at the new ownership group firing Paton too if they want to get rid of Hackett. If you do fire Hackett you’re basically looking at Dom Capers as interim because I can’t see any other options on the staff. And you just write off the season and start over next year with a new GM who is saddled with an albatross QB contract and a third offensive/defensive system in three years. What a mess. Probably shouldn’t have hired the incredibly unqualified guy in the first place!
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Oct 7, 2022 05:49
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a neat cape posted:You don't play for the tie lol
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Oct 7, 2022 05:50
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a neat cape posted:You don't play for the tie lol  You play to win the game, except, next time you use a better play.
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Oct 7, 2022 05:50
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:They should. There are very few situations where a team should play for a tie. I would know.
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Oct 7, 2022 05:50
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a neat cape posted:There are very few situations where a team should play for a tie. I would know. I bet they wish they tied when they hand over the 5th draft pick to Seattle instead of the 9th
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Oct 7, 2022 05:52
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a neat cape posted:There are very few situations where a team should play for a tie. I would know. Tonight was one of them.
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Oct 7, 2022 05:53
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Tonight was one of them. I don’t think a tie really helps Hackett any more than a loss from the perspective of trying to keep his job.
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Oct 7, 2022 05:55
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t think a tie really helps Hackett any more than a loss from the perspective of trying to keep his job. What
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Oct 7, 2022 05:56
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Dude needs to win games, not bumble into ties because the other team is also absolute poo poo. Even if they’d come out of that with a tie that’s not something he can point to to explain to his boss why he should keep his job, but a win on the back of a gutsy coaching decision might be.
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Oct 7, 2022 05:58
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t think a tie really helps Hackett any more than a loss from the perspective of trying to keep his job. It couldn't be worse for him than that loss. Tie the game then try an onside kick.
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Oct 7, 2022 05:58
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It couldn't be worse for him than that loss. Tie the game then try an onside kick. And give the Colts the ball on a short field and give them 2 minutes to gain ten yards to get into field goal range in Denver. Are you real
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Oct 7, 2022 06:06
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a neat cape posted:And give the Colts the ball on a short field and give them 2 minutes to gain ten yards to get into field goal range in Denver. I mean its even odds Ryan would get sacked and pushed even further out of field goal range.
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Oct 7, 2022 06:07
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Paint Crop Pro posted:I mean its even odds Ryan would get sacked and pushed even further out of field goal range. The point is conceding the tie is coward poo poo and going for it (or at least the first down) was the correct call. The playcall was absolute garbage
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Oct 7, 2022 06:08
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Sometimes cowardice is the correct instinct.
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Oct 7, 2022 06:09
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Sometimes cowardice is the correct instinct. It’s a football game, not an active shooter situation. Maybe Hackett had just seen enough and wanted it to end, and who can blame him?
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Oct 7, 2022 06:11
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It’s a football game, not an active shooter situation. Quicker the game ends, the faster we can get to breaking down the film to figure out how we got here. - Some coach will say this eventually.
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Oct 7, 2022 06:14
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Hughmoris posted:I didn't see the sequence of events in the 4th quarter but I don't fault Hackett for going for it in OT. It was a bad playcall when all you needed was 1 yard. Yeah. I already posted about it in the aftermath thread but to my (dumb, bad) eye they had a pretty free first down if they just hurried to the line and Russ dove forward before Indy was set. Instead they stood around for like 15 seconds with their dicks in their hands until the Colts realized it was a bad look and took a time out. I have no problem at all with them going for it. The execution was high school tier. Hackett fuckin sucks lmao. But I also don't know how Russ can't diagnose that and audible to a QB sneak after 10 years in the league, unless that's just not part of their offensive vocabulary or something. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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We never got to see Brian Schottenheimer as a head coach but Hackett is really delivering on that alternate reality.
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FizFashizzle posted:One of the biggest selling points for me about Rhule was he was able to build and recruit at programs where he didn’t have access to name brand appeal and (as far as we know, Baylor) bagmen bribing people. He didn’t do great against top 25 teams but that wasn’t as big a deal for me as just putting things together. He may have certain types organizational skill that allowed him to build some programs but I don’t really think that kind of skill has proven to be translatable to the NFL. The NFL is a far more level playing field in terms of access to resources and relative brand strength of teams.
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Paint Crop Pro posted:Quicker the game ends, the faster we can get to breaking down the film to figure out how we got here. - Some coach will say this eventually. They may have said it last night, if not for the fact that film should be scattered and buried in the 4 furthest corners of the Earth.
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Oct 7, 2022 11:10
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Nintendo 49ers posted:They may have said it last night, if not for the fact that film should be scattered and buried in the 4 furthest corners of the Earth. Hackett, too. Doug Marrone Was Right.
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Maybe it’s a bad idea to hire an OC who doesn’t handle playcalling to be your team’s new head coach.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Dom Capers Holy poo poo didn't realize that he was on Denver's staff. Should have been a whole lot of red flags and alarms going off about poor decision making the second Hackett came to the front office and asked to add Dom loving Capers to his staff.
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Oct 7, 2022 15:28
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Benjamin Disraeli posted:Holy poo poo didn't realize that he was on Denver's staff. Should have been a whole lot of red flags and alarms going off about poor decision making the second Hackett came to the front office and asked to add Dom loving Capers to his staff. To be fair, he’s only a defensive assistant and the defense is the one bright spot for the Broncos so he’s not in a position to ruin anything.
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:Maybe it’s a bad idea to hire an OC who doesn’t handle playcalling to be your team’s new head coach. Nick Sirianni Mike McDaniel Nathaniel Hackett Kevin O’Connell
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Denver media is already calling for Hackett to be fired and to bring in Payton.
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Diva Cupcake posted:This is strictly OCs that weren't their team's primary play callers from the 2021/22 hiring cycles. Any others? Oh poo poo. I was thinking of Joe Philbin.
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Forrest on Fire posted:If Manning got the HC job you know he'd make Adam Gase OC they're calling for sean payton not peyton manning
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"Please come to Denver. We have an albatross at QB whose contract we can't get out of until after 2025, no draft picks next year, not a great cap situation, and a division with Mahomes and Herbert. What more could you want?"
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a neat cape posted:"Please come to Denver. We have an albatross at QB whose contract we can't get out of until after 2025, no draft picks next year, not a great cap situation, and a division with Mahomes and Herbert. What more could you want?"
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a neat cape posted:"Please come to Denver. We have an albatross at QB whose contract we can't get out of until after 2025, no draft picks next year, not a great cap situation, and a division with Mahomes and Herbert. What more could you want?" Tom Brady. He will solve all those problems!
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How would Denver even acquire paytons rights, they'd need a haul of picks or players to get him from new orleans
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a neat cape posted:"Please come to Denver. We have an albatross at QB whose contract we can't get out of until after 2025, no draft picks next year, not a great cap situation, and a division with Mahomes and Herbert. What more could you want?" It's pretty funny Denver has a million things a coach can point to for why the team doing poorly isn't their fault, but Hackett is still loving it up badly enough to be on the chopping block.
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really queer Christmas posted:How would Denver even acquire paytons rights, they'd need a haul of picks or players to get him from new orleans You think the Saints could use Russ?
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really queer Christmas posted:How would Denver even acquire paytons rights, they'd need a haul of picks or players to get him from new orleans I think it's at least possible the owner has an arrangement to let Payton go where he wants as a thank you for 15 years of service and a Super Bowl. Rather than put him in Megatron forced retirement status. Although billionaires are petty, vindictive fucks so who knows. But even if that were true, yeah... if Russ is really dust now the Denver situation is radioactive. You have a dead QB on an insane contract that you can't trade or bench, and no picks to draft his replacement with. Why would you willingly walk into that? "Dump trucks full of money" but plenty of other teams will be happy to offer the same thing.
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Docjowles posted:I think it's at least possible the owner has an arrangement to let Payton go where he wants as a thank you for 15 years of service and a Super Bowl. Rather than put him in Megatron forced retirement status. Although billionaires are petty, vindictive fucks so who knows. I think they’ll work with him to make it relatively painless but I’d be shocked if they didn’t seek some compensation for his rights.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:they're calling for sean payton not peyton manning D'oh That makes more sense. He won't sign onto this poo poo show.
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