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Hallucinogenic Toreador
Nov 21, 2000

Whoooooahh I'd be
Nothin' without you
Baaaaaa-by

Rarity posted:

I'm an idiot, what is he expecting pension funds to do?

Apparently the pension funds all have insurance against the government defaulting on the debt, but when the cost of government borrowing rises too sharply a clause kicks in and the pension funds have to pay an extra cost on the insurance. So he's saying that the pension funds have three days left to sell their bonds to the BoE so they don't get stuck with the extra charge.

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Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Gotta line the pockets of execs and landlords somehow, tax cuts won't do

Git'dem Gilts

Introducing the BlackRock Pension

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Oh gently caress, it's Liz's first proper PMQs later today

I think I'm going to tune in for this one. lol

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

fuctifino posted:

Oh gently caress, it's Liz's first proper PMQs later today

I think I'm going to tune in for this one. lol

lol finally a PMQs where the Tories won't just be asking "Dear Prime Minister, can I lick your feet with my entire throat?"

my favourite PMQs are when they're all in on front-stabbing

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

It's going to be glorious :allears:

e: My town has just had to cancel its carnival, which was meant to have taken place on Saturday, as the town council wasn't able to get permission from themselves to close the roads in time, due to them forgetting to process their own paperwork... and of course, there's absolutely nothing that anyone can do. Better luck next year I guess...

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 12, 2022

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
My brother-in-law just tested positive for covid. We all had vaccine boosters on Sunday (though he & my sister had flu jab too - I declined to have it the same time as I tend to react very badly to that so didn't want two at the same time).
Anyway, he thinks he caught at an event on Friday and when he felt unwell earlier he thought it was the vaccines but when he got a sore throat this evening decided to test.
Not sure what the protocol is if you have a covid jab and then 2 days later test positive for covid! I said he better try and call the doc tomorrow or send up smoke signals or whatever you have to do to speak to a doc these days!

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://twitter.com/IChotiner/status/1579513213653131269

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

fuctifino posted:

Oh gently caress, it's Liz's first proper PMQs later today

I think I'm going to tune in for this one. lol

Kieth... Kieff... Kkkkk... i wouldn't get my hopes up tbh.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

fuctifino posted:

It's going to be glorious :allears:

e: My town has just had to cancel its carnival, which was meant to have taken place on Saturday, as the town council wasn't able to get permission from themselves to close the roads in time, due to them forgetting to process their own paperwork... and of course, there's absolutely nothing that anyone can do. Better luck next year I guess...

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

A grim analysis thread of the current financial shitshow to kick off your morning

TLDR - we’re hosed.

https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1580083601575907328

McFlurry Fan #1
Dec 31, 2005

He can't kill me. I'm indestructible. Everybody knows that

The DPRK posted:

Really enjoyed listening to this today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViY-zI3b5JQ

Just finished listening to this, lots to think on, particularly - the rich have taken everything they can from the poor, the next is the assets (homes) of the middle class.

I'd be interested in how much London is generalisable to the rest of the country - I live in a much more affordable part of the country where I can't imagine a land grab by the country's richest will make as much sense

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

McFlurry Fan #1 posted:

Just finished listening to this, lots to think on, particularly - the rich have taken everything they can from the poor, the next is the assets (homes) of the middle class.

I'd be interested in how much London is generalisable to the rest of the country - I live in a much more affordable part of the country where I can't imagine a land grab by the country's richest will make as much sense
Don't suppose there's a transcript of this anywhere? I don't have an hour and a half free to listen to a podcast. :smith:

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
:capitalism:



Reality is starting to feel more like 2000AD tbh. I wonder when they will roll out the belly-wheels for fatties and privatise the iso-cubes

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Convex posted:

:capitalism:



Reality is starting to feel more like 2000AD tbh. I wonder when they will roll out the belly-wheels for fatties and privatise the iso-cubes

I want Otto Sump’s Ugly Clinic

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Mega City One at least had a UBI.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Speaking of dystopia, exciting times for busybodies who want to exercise more power over minorities.

https://twitter.com/charleshymas/status/1580070006259298304?t=E4M04Gzl9Hx8oB_heA8F8g

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Judge Dredd chat. They’re re releasing the classic board game. I loved playing this as a Dredd obsessed teen. I’ve pre ordered mine. Perfect for the coming candle lit dystopian winter nights

https://rebellionunplugged.com/product/judge-dredd-the-game-of-crime-fighting-in-mega-city-one/

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Convex posted:

Reality is starting to feel more like 2000AD tbh. I wonder when they will roll out the belly-wheels for fatties and privatise the iso-cubes

Those little electric scooters are halfway there.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

smellmycheese posted:

Judge Dredd chat. They’re re releasing the classic board game. I loved playing this as a Dredd obsessed teen. I’ve pre ordered mine. Perfect for the coming candle lit dystopian winter nights

https://rebellionunplugged.com/product/judge-dredd-the-game-of-crime-fighting-in-mega-city-one/

gently caress yeah, ordered one of these

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1580103472921268224

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1579964951204364288

classic bit of piss boiling with a fun final few seconds

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

smellmycheese posted:

Judge Dredd chat. They’re re releasing the classic board game. I loved playing this as a Dredd obsessed teen. I’ve pre ordered mine. Perfect for the coming candle lit dystopian winter nights

https://rebellionunplugged.com/product/judge-dredd-the-game-of-crime-fighting-in-mega-city-one/

I owned that as a kid and loved it, but unless they've radically revised the rules it has nothing to offer me now apart from the chance to arrest Judge Death for littering.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Tesseraction posted:

https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1579964951204364288

classic bit of piss boiling with a fun final few seconds

OK, that was worth watching all the way to the end just for that conclusion. Glorious.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Tesseraction posted:

https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1579964951204364288

classic bit of piss boiling with a fun final few seconds

Should be paired with this too

https://twitter.com/ohffsmartin/status/1577905831479222272

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

The DPRK posted:

Really enjoyed listening to this today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViY-zI3b5JQ

For anyone who hasn’t gotten around to it: this was excellent.

I feel quite ignorant not having clocked this before, but when they briefly alluded to the fact that the BoE’s inflation target excludes house prices, and this means effectively that official (if implicit) monetary policy is to continue increasing the house price : annual income ratio, it dawned on me just how hosed the whole situation is. Also the ending bit where he suggested the British economy is essentially neo-feudalist, rather than capitalist, didn’t seem too hyperbolic to me.

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?


this is why we fight o7

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Everyone in this is in their late 30s.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016

quote:

he suggested the British economy is essentially neo-feudalist, rather than capitalist.

Glad folk are coming around on this. The middle class is just the poor that won't admit it, the anglo-world middle class as we know it is an aberration arising from postwar social democracy, and [adamcurtis] they [/adamcurtis] are taking it back, one house at a time.

Hah, you think, I'm clever, I'll just leave my house to my kids! What, so they'll inherit it in their 60s? No, sorry, your house is going to your end of life care where ownership will transition to a private landlord and then to a corporate landlord, and your kids will continue to Own Nothing.

Only Kindness fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Oct 12, 2022

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/BpsmithUk/status/1580135825013997568

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Tesseraction posted:

https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1579964951204364288

classic bit of piss boiling with a fun final few seconds

Aaah, it warms the heart

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Only Kindness posted:

Glad folk are coming around on this. The middle class is just the poor that won't admit it, the anglo-world middle class as we know it is an aberration arising from postwar social democracy, and [adamcurtis] they [/adamcurtis] are taking it back, one house at a time.

I don't see how that makes the system non-capitalist. The change from feudalism to capitalism was about coming to see power as rightly vested in owners, as opposed to people with special blood or divine blessings or whatever. The fact that ownership tends to concentrate over time (like other sorts of power) doesn't stop it being capitalist.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Halisnacks posted:

For anyone who hasn’t gotten around to it: this was excellent.

I feel quite ignorant not having clocked this before, but when they briefly alluded to the fact that the BoE’s inflation target excludes house prices, and this means effectively that official (if implicit) monetary policy is to continue increasing the house price : annual income ratio, it dawned on me just how hosed the whole situation is. Also the ending bit where he suggested the British economy is essentially neo-feudalist, rather than capitalist, didn’t seem too hyperbolic to me.

This is part of why stuff like the FT has been getting more and more shirty with successive Tory governments - they believe in capitalism, it's how they make their money. The government favoring asset owners extracting rents over capitalistic "innovation" is against their ideological interests.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Oh dear me posted:

I don't see how that makes the system non-capitalist. The change from feudalism to capitalism was about coming to see power as rightly vested in owners, as opposed to people with special blood or divine blessings or whatever. The fact that ownership tends to concentrate over time (like other sorts of power) doesn't stop it being capitalist.

This is why conservatives hate regulation and auditing. Hide everything and no-one can prove it, that's the modus operandi

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Oh dear me posted:

I don't see how that makes the system non-capitalist. The change from feudalism to capitalism was about coming to see power as rightly vested in owners, as opposed to people with special blood or divine blessings or whatever. The fact that ownership tends to concentrate over time (like other sorts of power) doesn't stop it being capitalist.

More that feudalism had serfdom, etc. and that capitalism was supposed to be competition driving innovation, when really the moneyed class fix prices and make you buy turds they assure you is chocolate.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Only Kindness posted:

Glad folk are coming around on this. The middle class is just the poor that won't admit it, the anglo-world middle class as we know it is an aberration arising from postwar social democracy, and [adamcurtis] they [/adamcurtis] are taking it back, one house at a time.

Hah, you think, I'm clever, I'll just leave my house to my kids! What, so they'll inherit it in their 60s? No, sorry, your house is going to your end of life care where ownership will transition to a private landlord and then to a corporate landlord, and your kids will continue to Own Nothing.

As a vaguely related reminder, there's a new Adam Curtis doc that is due to arrive on the iPlayer tomorrow. About post-Soviet Russia.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
I mean, no medieval serf had two dragon shows to choose from and argue about. Too busy coping with real dragons.

makes u think

but then, something unexpected happened

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Tesseraction posted:

More that feudalism had serfdom, etc. and that capitalism was supposed to be competition driving innovation, when really the moneyed class fix prices and make you buy turds they assure you is chocolate.

I think that's just swallowing capitalist rhetoric. We don't have serfdom because we're not allowed the land, let alone tied to it. We have standard capitalist 'work for us or starve' bondage.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

This is your 2 minute warning....

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Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

smellmycheese posted:

A grim analysis thread of the current financial shitshow to kick off your morning

TLDR - we’re hosed.

https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1580083601575907328

This guy is a massive lib idiot, and really not worth paying attention to.

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