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potatocubed posted:I just keep thinking of Tenra Bansho Zero, where taking wounds makes you stronger. If you can sell that aesthetic it neatly solves all your death spiral problems. My co-operative brain thinks of the desperately inspired hero in basically every anime or manga, and my uncooperative brain thinks of Sesame Street's Don Music writing hit songs by repeatedly banging his head on the piano.
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Drakyn posted:I'm well aware that not everyone cares as much about dinosaurs as I do, but this kickstarter still feels worthy of reposting simply based on the authors: a team of goddamned paleontologists (including paleoartist Mark Witton) are doing a 5e dinosaur supplement. Well that's got my inner 10 year old jumping and hollering for joy hyphz posted:My co-operative brain thinks of the desperately inspired hero in basically every anime or manga, and my uncooperative brain thinks of Sesame Street's Don Music writing hit songs by repeatedly banging his head on the piano. To be fair a lot of the kind of gags that Sesame Street or The Muppet Show would use are the kind that would be right at home in Anime, they both have a love for puns and wordplay for one thing as well as Vaudeville grade slapstick and violence
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Idk if it’s the right thread, but games has a few TCG threads in them, is there a best way/good method to open and reseal Pokémon booster packs?
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Total Meatlove posted:Idk if it’s the right thread, but games has a few TCG threads in them, is there a best way/good method to open and reseal Pokémon booster packs? You need to explain this in a way that isn't scamming people.
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Drakyn posted:I'm well aware that not everyone cares as much about dinosaurs as I do, but this kickstarter still feels worthy of reposting simply based on the authors: a team of goddamned paleontologists (including paleoartist Mark Witton) are doing a 5e dinosaur supplement. Neat! IMO this would go well with Planegea, a prehistoric 5e setting recently released by Atlas Games.
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Toshimo posted:You need to explain this in a way that isn't scamming people. It’s almost entirely the opposite, my lad has got into Pokémon, so I bought him a shiny Charizard to put into a pack for his birthday so he can open it. He probably won’t notice, but if there’s a way of doing it that doesn’t break things then it seemed a good idea to ask.
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Libertad! posted:Neat! IMO this would go well with Planegea, a prehistoric 5e setting recently released by Atlas Games. And it looks like the DDD guys agree because they popped up on Planegea's reddit.
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Total Meatlove posted:It’s almost entirely the opposite, my lad has got into Pokémon, so I bought him a shiny Charizard to put into a pack for his birthday so he can open it. He probably won’t notice, but if there’s a way of doing it that doesn’t break things then it seemed a good idea to ask. The easy version: Open your pack from the bottom, slip the Charizard in, reseal the pack with any old generic gluestick, and trust your son to open his pack from the top like a normal person. Anything more complicated than that would require remelting the plastic with a heat gun (assuming they're still using the kinds of packs you can do that with), and is both more expensive and closer to actual pack fraud that you probably want to deal with.
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Total Meatlove posted:It’s almost entirely the opposite, my lad has got into Pokémon, so I bought him a shiny Charizard to put into a pack for his birthday so he can open it. He probably won’t notice, but if there’s a way of doing it that doesn’t break things then it seemed a good idea to ask. This is adorable. You’re doing a good dad thing.
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After chatting with the person who maintained the old itch.io physical game jam list, I have rolled out my shiny new Physical Game Jam list. Hopefully useful to either game writers or people who want to haunt game jams looking for cool new games.
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Drakyn posted:I'm well aware that not everyone cares as much about dinosaurs as I do, but this kickstarter still feels worthy of reposting simply based on the authors: a team of goddamned paleontologists (including paleoartist Mark Witton) are doing a 5e dinosaur supplement. Sick, you don't get much better than Mark Witton (who, in addition to paleoart, is also an active publishing scientist and one of the foremost authorities on azhdarchid pterosaurs out there).
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Lurks With Wolves posted:The easy version: Open your pack from the bottom, slip the Charizard in, reseal the pack with any old generic gluestick, and trust your son to open his pack from the top like a normal person. Anything more complicated than that would require remelting the plastic with a heat gun (assuming they're still using the kinds of packs you can do that with), and is both more expensive and closer to actual pack fraud that you probably want to deal with. This was my first thought, cheers. 
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Total Meatlove posted:It’s almost entirely the opposite, my lad has got into Pokémon, so I bought him a shiny Charizard to put into a pack for his birthday so he can open it. He probably won’t notice, but if there’s a way of doing it that doesn’t break things then it seemed a good idea to ask. What a cool thoughtful thing to do. If you're not aware, there was a whole thing semi-recently with Amazon selling boxes of MTG boosters that had been searched, resealed and returned so that's probably why people are extra jumpy around the idea of booster pack resealing
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That's really useful context I wasn't aware of, thank you!
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To add a little bit more detail to this, a combination of Amazon's policy of mixing together stock from marketplace sellers with stock that they sell directly + accepting returns on booster boxes meant that you could buy from a game store you trust that uses Amazon marketplace for logistics and get a box that had been accepted as a return by Amazon. Your average LGS would be expected to know about the risks of accepting a returned booster box and would check it thoroughly (or more likely have a no returns policy for boosters). There was a relatively high profile incident of a streamer opening a box on stream and getting packs without rares. Amazon then changed their policy and stopped accepting returns on booster boxes, but didn't (and allegedly couldn't due to their mixing stock policy) offer exchanges to people who had been sold boxes that had previously been returned. This meant that there were people out there who had bought boxes that they were saving for drafts or whatever who couldn't get a refund if they opened them and they turned out to be searched or resealed.
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Tarnop posted:To add a little bit more detail to this, a combination of Amazon's policy of mixing together stock from marketplace sellers with stock that they sell directly + accepting returns on booster boxes meant that you could buy from a game store you trust that uses Amazon marketplace for logistics and get a box that had been accepted as a return by Amazon. Your average LGS would be expected to know about the risks of accepting a returned booster box and would check it thoroughly (or more likely have a no returns policy for boosters).
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Splicer posted:loving lol on the bolded bit. If they'd tried that in the EU like five different consumer protection laws that would immediately kick in. Forget exchanges it would be straight into faulty or incomplete goods territory. they mix stock on PPE so if you buy masks or gloves from Amazon there's a real chance that you'll get fraudulent product lol afaik they do this in the EU tbh, I've never heard that Amazon does things differently in the EU or that they suffer anything for that
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Tulip posted:they mix stock on PPE so if you buy masks or gloves from Amazon there's a real chance that you'll get fraudulent product lol
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It's not really legal in most (all?) states to sell altered/defective goods, but good luck getting that enforced.
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Splicer posted:I mean from an individual returns policy. "Hi the thing I bought from you is missing stuff and there's documented evidence that this is a known issue give me a replacement or refund" From what I understand, their stock system doesn't track individual items so there's (allegedly) no way for them to know that customer A was sent the box that was returned by customer B. All the system knows is that customer B returned a box so num_items++, then customer A was sold a box so num_items-- Obviously the correct way to handle it would have been to change the return policy only for items that entered the system after a certain date and to write off all returned stock prior to that date, but Amazon's claim is that their stock system doesn't work at that level of granularity, making it impossible to know which specific boxes were previously returned. I'm sure the fact that this system, as mentioned above, enables them to skim a nice percentage from counterfeit goods is just a happy accident.
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I've only briefly heard it mentioned here, but the one big thing that was mentioned (failing skills damages your stats, making you more likely to fail skills) I'm not a fan of. (that being said, it was hyphz who was discussing it, and his way of seeing games isn't always in step with how the common consensus on games turns out, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt. more importantly, fellowship exists, and that does what I want for jrpg games just fine).
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Just to be fair, those conditions are not applied on EVERY failed skill roll - there’s regular hit point and “mind point” damage too. On the other hand, in the sample adventure the conditions applied are immediately healed by deus ex machina which might be a bad sign.
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CitizenKeen posted:Anyone have thoughts on Fabula Ultima? Reading the threads on RPG.net made me curious enough to pick it up and I like what I see. If you're looking to replicate a JRPG it's probably got your back. Somebody over there posted how the FF6 opera sequence would go with the different clocks and feels like it could emulate such things almost to the letter.
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Is it more FF6 than Our Stormy Present? You've piqued my interest
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Ok, having a further look through the sample adventure. There's four stats, and it's a dice-type system. As I posted previously, the dice selections mean that the chance of success on any given roll are quite low given the default target numbers. A character gets three Traits (FATE Aspects): "Identity", "Theme" and "Origin". Spending a bennie lets you reroll one or both dice on a related check. You start with 3 bennies, and get one whenever you fumble or whenever a villain appears - either in the play scene or in a cut-scene narrated by the GM. This is mildly awkward, as it means that the effectiveness of the characters is in part tied to the GM's choices about how the story is presented. Also, some of the identities for the sample characters are a bit awkward: "former captain of the Skyriders" and "princess without a kingdom" are kind of hard to argue relations for. You also have Bonds with other characters, each of which is associated with 3 emotions which are chose from a list of pairs of opposites. If you can relate a bond to a check, you can spend a benny to add the number of related emotions to a check as a flat value. There don't seem to be any restrictions on actually acting on those Bonds, though. Bennies also let you pull FATE invocations for effect. Villians get antibennies - individually per villain, not for the GM as a whole. They can spend them to get rerolls the same was a PCs, heal from status effects, or escape. Initiative is group-based, with the party (unusually) making a leader-and-helpers group check with a fixed TN to go first. As per FF style, there's no movement in combat and only a single action per turn. There are no front and back ranks, but a character can give up their action to Guard another character. This is a big red flag, as the author forgets that FF combat is designed for a single player controlling a party, not for each player having their own character. Whoever has to keep Guarding is likely to get bored. They also forget that the tactical choices made in FF combat are mandated on the idea of being able to try again with different tactics if defeated, but every CRPG conversion does that. Attack is based on skill checks with a modifier. Damage is based on the higher of the dice rolled in the attack, which means that damage will be skewed high. Healing items are abstracted into "inventory points" where PCs spend certain numbers of points to have healing potions, energy potions or remedies as needed. Clocks are presented but as written in the quickstart, they're keyed to dice rolls only, which isn't a good idea in practice. Presumably the full version gives more detail. hyphz fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 15, 2022 |
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That's a pretty standard bennie system and seems Fine (TM). You have enough options to choose from that you'll be able to spend a bennie if you want to, it'll just be flavoured around your character. The players are incentivised to be constantly butting heads with the big bad and you're guaranteed to start each villain fight with at least one benny.hyphz posted:"former captain of the Skyriders" and "princess without a kingdom" are kind of hard to argue relations for. hyphz posted:a character can give up their action to Guard another character. This is a big red flag, as the author forgets that FF combat is designed for a single player controlling a party, not for each player having their own character. Whoever has to keep Guarding is likely to get bored. They also forget that the tactical choices made in FF combat are mandated on the idea of being able to try again with different tactics if defeated, but every CRPG conversion does that.
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Form bond "Don't believe Ondore's lies. I'm the real--"
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hyphz posted:Also, some of the identities for the sample characters are a bit awkward: "former captain of the Skyriders" and "princess without a kingdom" are kind of hard to argue relations for. Current Captain of the Skyriders Inspired By The Skyriders To Heroism Victim of the Skyriders, Sworn To Revenge Sky Pirate (Doesn't Take It Personally) Former Mascot of the Skyriders {court position} without a kingdom Pretender To The Non-Throne, Joining Forces Out Of Conivenence Betrothed (True Love) Betrothed (Just here for the adventure) I Destroyed That Kingdom, It Was Me
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Yeah those are actually very good prompts that are just enough specifics to be hooks but not cages. Completely failing to see an even theoretical problem. What’s your beef, hyphz?
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah those are actually very good prompts that are just enough specifics to be hooks but not cages. Because you're supposed to be invoking them when they relate to skill checks you make, and that's very unclear. What skills does a "princess without a kingdom" have? If she doesn't have a kingdom she's not going to have actually been doing princess stuff, so it's presumably just her relatives. It mostly reminded me of the 13th Age thing where one of the suggested backgrounds was "failed diplomat", and it's not really clear how that would give a bonus to anything, when it ought to just give a penalty to diplomacy. Side note: For anyone interested, satirical podcast F-Plus just looked over The Tao of D&D, better known as "mustard guy"', 's blog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEd3nncTO00
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hyphz posted:Because you're supposed to be invoking them when they relate to skill checks you make, and that's very unclear. What skills does a "princess without a kingdom" have? If she doesn't have a kingdom she's not going to have actually been doing princess stuff, so it's presumably just her relatives. It mostly reminded me of the 13th Age thing where one of the suggested backgrounds was "failed diplomat", and it's not really clear how that would give a bonus to anything, when it ought to just give a penalty to diplomacy.
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hyphz posted:Because you're supposed to be invoking them when they relate to skill checks you make, and that's very unclear. What skills does a "princess without a kingdom" have? If she doesn't have a kingdom she's not going to have actually been doing princess stuff, so it's presumably just her relatives. It mostly reminded me of the 13th Age thing where one of the suggested backgrounds was "failed diplomat", and it's not really clear how that would give a bonus to anything, when it ought to just give a penalty to diplomacy. It's an excuse to have all the princess stuff and everything she did after that in in one narrative bundle that you can use to generate bennies. Yeah, it's gonna get more defined in play and lead to table conversations about what that means and it's an improv opportunity. I assume that's the point, yes. Why are you just making assumptions to make the game boring?
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Xiahou Dun posted:It's an excuse to have all the princess stuff and everything she did after that in in one narrative bundle that you can use to generate bennies. Yeah, it's gonna get more defined in play and lead to table conversations about what that means and it's an improv opportunity. Because hyphz' predominant gaming experiences is with a table that derives its entertainment from tormenting him, most often in the form of refusing to engage with the system or campaign in good faith, which has made hyphz hypervigilant about ways in which the text is open to abuse.
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Tulip posted:Because hyphz' predominant gaming experiences is with a table that derives its entertainment from tormenting him, most often in the form of refusing to engage with the system or campaign in good faith, which has made hyphz hypervigilant about ways in which the text is open to abuse. O I know. I'm the guy who was trying to fix him so I made a group to play Early Modern German-themed Apocalypse World over discord for a couple of months and we had a great time. And hyphz continues to do that even though I know he knows functional players do this just fine and have a great time because he's been there and was a good player who had some good improvs. It's why I call him out on this poo poo every time I see it.
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Plutonis posted:where's the ar tonelico trpg not translated yet and I think the wiki's dead
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hyphz posted:Because you're supposed to be invoking them when they relate to skill checks you make, and that's very unclear. What skills does a "princess without a kingdom" have? If she doesn't have a kingdom she's not going to have actually been doing princess stuff, so it's presumably just her relatives. It mostly reminded me of the 13th Age thing where one of the suggested backgrounds was "failed diplomat", and it's not really clear how that would give a bonus to anything, when it ought to just give a penalty to diplomacy. I think that your views on game design are really weird and disagree with a lot of it, but all is forgiven in linking that podcast episode. I'm just several minutes into it, so if the podcast gets weird I want to say that I don't necessarily endorse whatever weirdass things may or may not be described.
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all i know about ar tonelico is that the music is really baroque, does the rpg require that you sing at the table cuz that would be p radXiahou Dun posted:O I know. I'm the guy who was trying to fix him so I made a group to play Early Modern German-themed Apocalypse World over discord for a couple of months and we had a great time. And hyphz continues to do that even though I know he knows functional players do this just fine and have a great time because he's been there and was a good player who had some good improvs. fair enough carry on
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All issues with hyphz's table aside (but don't get me wrong, hyphz's table stories read like an anxiety dream), I feel like the question of "are we okay with broad character archetypes being used to describe a character's skill set, or do we want stricter technical definitions of what characters know and can do?" is a reasonable one for a table to ask, and for the answer to guide system choices. (I know I've seen earnest good-faith discussion of whether "players will try to apply their backgrounds to every possible skill check" is a bug or a feature of the 13th Age background system, to think of the first example that comes to mind.) I personally think archetype-based skillsets are great, but I can believe that some tables might want things more spelled out, and that's fine!
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