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Noxville posted:This is not at all surprising from the DWP, but honestly surprised they’d speak to an MSP calling on behalf of a constituent in the same way they would to us ordinary plebs. What a horrible culture that department breeds We should burn DWP employees as winter fuel, the shower of cunts.
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keep punching joe posted:Love you burn wood and fill my house with carcinogens. And the air breathed by those around you
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smellmycheese posted:Truss can relax. Looks like the nukes are about to start flying Probably something to do with China recruiting RAF pilots, I imagine he's getting a dressing down from the yanks right now.
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Gort posted:And the air breathed by those around you The point is that I get to do it, not everyone, definitely not you.
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Spangly A posted:The MSP absolutely hosed that and very clearly didn't even read the citizens advice site on how pip is scored before deciding to do the claim by the only method that allows the dwp to lie without getting caught. I feel like the point is that you shouldn't need to do online research on how to ensure you tick all the boxes & jump through all the hoops to be able to claim financial support necessary to living when you are disabled in some way.
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Guavanaut posted:Beloved old willow like it's a 600 year old oak lol Tom Bombadil got pretty dark with his treatment of the trees gone bad.
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keep punching joe posted:How do you not have a passport? (Americans please ignore this question) It's expensive. As is foreign travel. Especially as I don't like flying so any travel I do make is usually by train.
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Noxville posted:This is not at all surprising from the DWP, but honestly surprised they’d speak to an MSP calling on behalf of a constituent in the same way they would to us ordinary plebs. What a horrible culture that department breeds "Love" the vilification of mental health issues on display as well. Lumping depressive states under "can't be bothered."
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Also the infantilisation of saying they can't do it because they grew up in a benefits house and therefore never learned to do it. Really hope the person on the other end of the phone treads on lego until they die of natural causes.
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Spangly A posted:The MSP absolutely hosed that and very clearly didn't even read the citizens advice site on how pip is scored before deciding to do the claim by the only method that allows the dwp to lie without getting caught. I mean she probably thought she was just helping out a family who didn't have a phone, and didn't expect to be dancing on egg shells to the tune of a hostile bureaucracy. That shouldn't be an unreasonable expectation really
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I mean she probably thought she was just helping out a family who didn't have a phone, and didn't expect to be dancing on egg shells to the tune of a hostile bureaucracy. That shouldn't be an unreasonable expectation really Maybe not unreasonable if a friend/family member was trying to help. But they are an MSP, if they aren't aware how evil the DWP is then they haven't been paying attention for the past decade+.
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Rarity posted:The Tories need Ted Lasso, he'll get them sorted They need two footing
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Tesseraction posted:Also the infantilisation of saying they can't do it because they grew up in a benefits house and therefore never learned to do it. One of the benefits of modern commercial bureaucratic practise is to decouple the process of decision-making from personhood. You don't feel much pain if you're a lightly edited hard pressure sales script with four hours of video lectures covering the theoretical basis of elaborated post-industrial poverty theory
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forkboy84 posted:I feel like the point is that you shouldn't need to do online research on how to ensure you tick all the boxes & jump through all the hoops to be able to claim financial support necessary to living when you are disabled in some way. Absolutely agree. It is still very frustrating to watch people make the decision to rely on human decency and empathy when dealing with people who have none. The fact it's a member of parliament who made a choice not to delegate a task she wasn't remotely capable of, with a vulnerable persons financial security on the line, is giving me an unpleasant feeling that I don't think is solely just spillover from my opinions on the DWP itself. Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I mean she probably thought she was just helping out a family who didn't have a phone, and didn't expect to be dancing on egg shells to the tune of a hostile bureaucracy. That shouldn't be an unreasonable expectation really It's not an unreasonable expectation for anyone except a member of parliament with an entire paid staff for constituency surgery work. It feels like giving someone bad medical or legal advice. I've done rep work, acted as a McKenzie friend, done dozens of dwp claims and two ECHP writeups. I simply can't understand being this unprepared when someone trusts me to represent them. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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I've been meaning to make a PIP application but loving hell I wonder if it might be better for my mental health not to. Cruel bunch of cunts
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Deketh posted:I've been meaning to make a PIP application but loving hell I wonder if it might be better for my mental health not to. Cruel bunch of cunts Apply in case you do need the money, but also steel yourself to have a Tory AI answer the phone.
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sinky posted:Maybe not unreasonable if a friend/family member was trying to help. e: nevermind
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Tesseraction posted:Apply in case you do need the money, but also steel yourself to have a Tory AI answer the phone. "AD" (Artificial Dumbass) seems more apt
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Spangly A posted:Absolutely agree. It is still very frustrating to watch people make the decision to rely on human decency and empathy when dealing with people who have none. The fact it's a member of parliament who made a choice not to delegate a task she wasn't remotely capable of, with a vulnerable persons financial security on the line, is giving me an unpleasant feeling that I don't think is solely just spillover from my opinions on the DWP itself. I'm sure you're right about all of that, but even the distant idea of that being necessary for vulnerable people to receive help fills me with black despair.
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:"AD" (Artificial Dumbass) seems more apt nothing artificial about that tho tbh
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Spangly A posted:The MSP absolutely hosed that and very clearly didn't even read the citizens advice site on how pip is scored before deciding to do the claim by the only method that allows the dwp to lie without getting caught. I wonder if the call handler knew it was a MSP they were talking to since if petty authority is anything it recognizes hierarchy and you don't bully someone who can hit back. Tesseraction posted:Also the infantilisation of saying they can't do it because they grew up in a benefits house and therefore never learned to do it. Chucky the 3rd grew up in a benefits house and never learned to wipe his own bum so it tracks.
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Z the IVth posted:I wonder if the call handler knew it was a MSP they were talking to since if petty authority is anything it recognizes hierarchy and you don't bully someone who can hit back. Is DWP in Scotland separate from DWP England because if not they prolly don't give a flying gently caress they angered a north-huddler.
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Crymetimeboys posted:YouGov poll found that "Were Liz Truss to resign, Boris Johnson tops the list of potential successors Tory members would most like to see replace her". Well good luck with that the Tory MPs themselves hate the oval office finally finding something I agree with them on
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Z the IVth posted:I wonder if the call handler knew it was a MSP they were talking to since if petty authority is anything it recognizes hierarchy and you don't bully someone who can hit back. I remember when I did my PIP interview they were saying "oh we don't need to know why you're assisting with the claim" but my social worker barrelled through and dumped his credentials at high speed, so there's obviously some known interplay there.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:what about IDS gently caress it, let's go full olde tyme memry, what's William Hague up to
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keep punching joe posted:How do you not have a passport? (Americans please ignore this question) Spangly A posted:The MSP absolutely hosed that and very clearly didn't even read the citizens advice site on how pip is scored before deciding to do the claim by the only method that allows the dwp to lie without getting caught. I have a tribunal with them next month, am I also a dipshit for not finding that site, or a different site that gives the magic right answers either? I am, but not for that reason. Spangly A posted:The fact it's a member of parliament who made a choice not to delegate a task she wasn't remotely capable of, with a vulnerable persons financial security on the line, is giving me an unpleasant feeling that I don't think is solely just spillover from my opinions on the DWP itself. Look at it another way - if the MSP had done it your way and handled it 'correctly,' that would just reinforce the privelage in the application system and still not help the majority of applicants that the system summarily refuses. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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