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nwin posted:Do you all take CMA’s seriously? Depends on the company, I think. The Fortune 60 I worked for treated them as roughly equivalent for most positions (except a select few, outward-facing reporting type positions such as SEC Reporting) that required a CPA. Probably varies from company to company, I imagine. This new company I'm at ("new"; I've been here for almost 2 years fml) hasn't said word one about certifications at all. 
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This job is not worth worrying about and i would absolutely advise tou to find something better after graduation. It sound like you will have a bachelors and be CPA eligible. If they are keeping their books in Excel, then you are not learning anything particularly applicable, no serious organizatiion would even consider it. It's fine for part time or an internship, I suppose, but you'd be better served applying for full time jobs in public or at larger organizations. Have you talked to career services? Are their on campus interviews or events? You were having trouble finding part time, but I suspect that is because most places are looking for full time, apart from certain internships, and those are usually on a pretty rigid recruiting schedule. You can do way better than this place.
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mojo1701a posted:Having said that, working at the same time as a staff accountant in public practice helped a lot because cases become less conceptual and more practical in terms of proposing solutions to whatever your role is. If there is one thing that does worry me it's this. My role is pretty loving niche and business specific so I'm not going to have that working knowledge. The effort in seems fine from whats being described. When I took the CFA level 3 exam there was people crying on the steps outside the exam room during the break so I'm not too worried about the CFE lol
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italian quid posted:If there is one thing that does worry me it's this. My role is pretty loving niche and business specific so I'm not going to have that working knowledge. You’ll do fine. It can also work to your benefit in some circumstances as can learn the CPA Way rather than something connected to reality. I’ve facilitated PEP modules a couple times and some candidates struggle to separate what PEP is asking from what might fly at their firm/employer.
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PatMarshall posted:This job is not worth worrying about and i would absolutely advise tou to find something better after graduation. It sound like you will have a bachelors and be CPA eligible. If they are keeping their books in Excel, then you are not learning anything particularly applicable, no serious organizatiion would even consider it. It's fine for part time or an internship, I suppose, but you'd be better served applying for full time jobs in public or at larger organizations. Have you talked to career services? Are their on campus interviews or events? You were having trouble finding part time, but I suspect that is because most places are looking for full time, apart from certain internships, and those are usually on a pretty rigid recruiting schedule. You can do way better than this place. You're right mate. On worse news they terminated my work contract to get their other employees overseas. I am now jobless again but worse since this was independent contractor job. I'll be forced to job hunt again. I hate this.
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PatMarshall posted:Yeah applying to jobs sucks so bad, sorry. Good news is it doesn't last forever. You should be in a good position, accounting is still pretty hot, although it will depend on location. poo poo just realized Forced to use their equipment Set hour Set pay In office Told independent worker and 1099 I think the place intentionally misclassified me.
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Best of luck in your job search. It sucks but hopefully you can find a better employer quickly. I’ve never understood the motivation for intentionally misclassifying workers. Maybe I think too long term, as the short term “not paying payroll taxes” is an obvious motivation, but in my state these schemes usually end in flames pretty quickly when a worker is fired, who files an unemployment claim and the company gets audited. Hell hath no fury like a worker scorned.
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italian quid posted:If there is one thing that does worry me it's this. My role is pretty loving niche and business specific so I'm not going to have that working knowledge. MrAmazing posted:You’ll do fine. It can also work to your benefit in some circumstances as can learn the CPA Way rather than something connected to reality. Yeah, sorry, wasn't trying to imply that you need to do it. I'm just saying that there is an added benefit of having actual experience helps you remember that part of what you're being judged on is "adding value", as opposed to just knowing the answer. As an example, anyone can do someone's tax return, but not anyone can answer questions or give recommendations in specific situations. A lot of that comes with experience, but the PEP modules still expect you to be able to do some level of satisfactory analysis to be able to help a client, for example. As you do the modules, you pick up on what CPA expects from you so it's not insurmountable.
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Accountant here, with a top 20 firm in their Outsourced Accounting Group for real estate clients. I've worked for a lot of NYC private real estate or not-for-profit companies over the 10 years since I graduated, that all use the same property management software (YARDI). Due to everyone being incredibly computer illiterate, me having somewhat better than the average person grasp of IT, combining that with my accounting experience & being an admin on the software, has allowed me to continually get hired off of that experience which is extremely in demand. YARDI itself is pretty dogshit in terms of user support/setup/implementation, which essentially creates a whole 'consulting' racket for assisting property management companies deal with the software who bill $300+ an hour and don't actually get anything done. Every job I've ever worked who brought consultants in to assist, they basically were just billed tons of hours for meetings and discussions without any real progress. I originally wanted to go into forensic accounting, advancing my IT/technology abilities in tandem with that and because I dislike the finance industry/the predatory real estate industry I've witnessed firsthand working to uncover or assist white collar/financial crimes was most appealing/interesting, but property management accounting & optimizing the software and training others on it has been the 'niche' I've sort of dugout for myself not being a CPA. My first job out of college being with a non-for-profit affordable housing company in Brooklyn (started in the 70s by infamous Brooklyn politician/disgraced kingmaker Vito Lopez and 2 years before I was hired, googling their name brought up endless articles of corruption and fraud; essentially their CEO was Vito's girlfriend and at over $300k she had one of the largest salaries at a not-for-profit in the country). I graduated from Hofstra University because my mother worked there which allowed my brother & I to go for free, and to qualify for the CPA exam I chose the "extra major" to get over 152 credits, which was something I was actually interested in- philosophy. But I was realistic about the fact/meme of what type of job or career can you get with a philosophy degree and accounting was the business degree I thought was the least lovely. I thought about going to law school or the nightmare of a PhD in philosophy, probably the two most popular routes for philosophy majors, but never seriously considered it, even though it's still a little appealing to me (lawyer anyways). This is my first job with an accounting firm, servicing the type of clients I used to be employed by, and having yearly reviews & bonuses/promotions/salary increases is something totally new to me. At property management companies they have zero incentive to promote you or give you more money; everyone works their job, there's an AP/AR/2-4 person accounting team, the property managers & leasing people, and then basically low paid office assistants. Very happy with the firm I'm at now though- still fully remote, though they are trying to push people to get organized and meet at the office few days a month, and just have a less corporate rear end in a top hat vibe that I would expect from a PwC/Big 4 firm that my cousin works for.
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Welcome to the thread! I'm a philosophy major who became a lawyer, and my wife is a forensic accounting CPA, so we know about some of the stuff you find interesting.
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Gabriel Grub posted:Ah, finally. A fellow philosopher-accountant. gang It's certainly been a talking point in interviews; even those without any interest in philosophy or whatever, usually are intrigued/have some comment as I'm sure it is something they rarely if ever see. It's possible it helped me get my current position. I was hired for my experience of course, but the director who started the Outsource Group that first interviewed me, a self-described Deadhead & mechanical engineer that isn't your typical accounting administrator, certainly didn't hurt me. Nonexistence posted:Welcome to the thread! I'm a philosophy major who became a lawyer, and my wife is a forensic accounting CPA, so we know about some of the stuff you find interesting. Yo, that's awesome.
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PatMarshall posted:I mean, sounds like you are pretty well placed. I'd stay in client service and become one of those consultants charging by the hour, always plenty of demand for someone who knows software and implementation. Yeah I always had planned to lean more into the consulting aspect than accounting, due to the demand for it. I had applied for more "YARDI Consulting" type of roles, prior to getting this position; one was 25% travel but for a higher salary, but I didn't get the position. For the time being I'm content but definitely do still think if I were to go on job search it would be more YARDI-specialist centric than Senior Accountant or Manager or whatever. I recently got 12% raise & $3k bonus at the end of August, which marks the end of their yearly review process, and my senior manager coworker advocates for me/tells me she wants me to grow so I feel comfortable here and seeing how it plays out for now. One of the previous senior accounting jobs I had, they needed someone to be the "YARDI Admin" and handle all support requests/tickets/training staff/optimization/implmenting modules/etc. and I taught myself everything by reading the manuals that was available on their client central site. None of it is very challenging or IT difficult, but my general knowledge with computers and software and taking imitative to learn it (there is a very large amount of 'setup' with YARDI; it's only going to function as well as you have it setup and can utilize it) and having previous jobs as an AR collections person, the main AP person, senior accountant doing every bank rec + being the database admin at the same time, really allowed me to understand how everything flows. knox fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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Femur posted:Is yardi that terrible? Every explicitly Business-to-Business software is that terrible, yes.  I have never used Yardi so I'm just guessing here
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Femur posted:Is yardi that terrible? I mean define terrible or what you're referring to- the software itself or the company I guess. As a software for investment management, construction, commercial & residential property management, accounting & financial reporting platform, payment portal, etc I would say it's the industry leader/the best. But the only other poo poo I've used is Intacct a little bit which is just an accounting software, & this one Manhattan luxury real estate company that hired me to help them convert to YARDI were using BJ Murray that has been obsolete for decades/was from like the 70s that you could not even use a mouse on (MS-DOS I guess?). I would say the issues come from conversions & implementations, which are difficult & something I think YARDI sucks at and clearly the consultants that get brought in aren't much help either. They also aren't good at as a whole support; as the admin and submitting tickets, after awhile I just didn't even bother sending support tickets because the person responding wouldn't understand what I was asking and basically give me some solution that wasn't what I needed, so teaching myself was a much better use of my time. Or I would just pick up the phone and call a support person I knew wasn't stupid that helped me previously. The only time I have to send tickets is for when backend poo poo breaks or it's some super-specific error related to setup I can't figure out. YARDI is only going to function as well as you set it up, and there is a lot of setup involved. Many places I've worked they are paying for this package of modules and not utilizing half of them, usually because the staff doesn't know how to use them/they were never setup. And there is certain things I would say that the system might force which would create problems for someone not as knowledgeable about how to fix them (transaction post months for example- every charge/payable/journal/receipt has a transaction date & also a post month, which as a best practice should match but re-applying some or changing them the system might force the post month to current month. poo poo like that). There's also a lot of synchronization between the modules that YARDI excels at- like you can have people using mobile app to buy poo poo or put in purchase orders/work orders, which should flow all the way through the posted invoice you're cutting a check for. knox fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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I just signed up to over a dozen new accounting jobs. I hope I can use this time to focus on passing courses and graduating.
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Do you know any actual good Yardi consultants besides yourself? The 501(c)(3) where I’m CFO is moving into affordable housing development.
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pseudanonymous posted:Do you know any actual good Yardi consultants besides yourself? The 501(c)(3) where I’m CFO is moving into affordable housing development. I wish I could tell you I do; I think I only worked with the actual consultants once or twice, and usually was hired as the person coming in after these assholes being paid only as an accountant but utilized to do the things needed in optimizing YARDI that owner/CEO wanted. REdirect is one that's pretty well-known and for some reason my firm was paying them to help with a client or the client themselves was paying them, and both my incompetent coworker(s) and REdirect failed to meet the client's expectactions so my senior manager, who was getting poo poo from the partner that has a relationship with the client, asked me to help her even though it's not my client and get a like 100+ commercial tenants and their leases uploaded into YARDI. The place I applied to previously seemed like a good consulting company maybe I can go look up their name. I'm sure there are good consulting companies out there it's just been what I've seen from the NYC affordable housing places I've worked at that have hired consultants; the place I became the administrator the owner told me a few times he "threw them out of the office." Your location probably would inform who you're hiring too, NYC is likely these 'well-known' consultants that keep getting hired off their name recognition. I recognized the name REdirect when talking with my coworker about them, probably from seeing invoices at past jobs. knox fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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It’s Veterans Day. My office is closed, gotta take all possible fall days off since we take none in tax season. Client is double texting me to get a financial statement out to him today or he will lose a real estate deal. New client who’s former accountant ghosted him and I’m trying to catch him up for multiple years. His staff didn’t give me some info I need until after I had told him I would be gone yesterday. I do not want to interrupt my day off for this guy. How to I tell him nicely that if he wanted this he should have included me from the start of the process instead of 7 days ago?
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Epi Lepi posted:It’s Veterans Day. My office is closed, gotta take all possible fall days off since we take none in tax season. Client is double texting me to get a financial statement out to him today or he will lose a real estate deal. New client who’s former accountant ghosted him and I’m trying to catch him up for multiple years. His staff didn’t give me some info I need until after I had told him I would be gone yesterday. I do not want to interrupt my day off for this guy. How to I tell him nicely that if he wanted this he should have included me from the start of the process instead of 7 days ago? You don’t, your out of office already responded for you.
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Banzai 3 posted:You don’t, your out of office already responded for you. Not an empty quote
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I am still adjusting to private account, going from public. It's slower. The days definitely go by at a much slower pace. I don't really have much to do. What is asked of me is either really easy or technically impossible but I usually find some way to make it worl. Just a lot of "make this report, should be automatic from Quickbooks," but then it's like "no, it isn't" so I jury rig the report myself. My new bosses are not as nice as my old boss. They're definitely rougher with a bit more of a temper. But also, they don't ask a lot of me, really? So far, at least. I get it in around 9-9:20. I leave around 5pm. I stayed late like twice that was like 30 minutes to an hour. I do miss how nice my old boss was. I definitely miss being on such good terms I can just WFH any day where I was feeling lovely. Can't do that here. But, it is what it is. I knew going to any new job that wasn't at least partially WFH would likely not have that benefit. But no WFH only jobs materialized for me. The pay is nicer. I have about 5.5 years experience. 1 year at the Big 4. 6 months at a small firm. 4 years at another small firm. I was only making 60,000 working as a tax accountant with 750 clients with 100 of those being business clients while also doing bookkeeping, sales tax, payroll tax, tax resolution, and other matters. This small construction company pays me 90,000 to do bookkeeping, reports, and like random things like picking up stuff or doing a change order or something. I live on Long Island for reference. The benefits are worse. 401k hasn't kicked in yet and the matching is lower. But, the health insurance is oddly better? Like my deductible used to be 7k at the small firm, and it's only 1k here. Dental and vision is a lot worse though. We get less vacation days, much less, but it's closer to like your standard package? All the major holidays and two weeks off a year. The tax firms gave you more days, but that's because they expected you to work a lot. There is a lot of weird adjustment. I am busy in November. I'm actually busy every day? There is always something going on so I'm not like sitting on my rear end. Normally, right now, I'd be doing nothing because it's November. Nothing is due in November. I'd be taking days off left and right. But, also, come February, I'd be working tax season. My tax season hours were usually 9 to 8pm Monday to Friday and 9pm to 5pm on Saturday. We could leave early (ie after 5pm) if we had no work to do,but that didn't really happen after a certain point in the season. As the season went on, I'd often find myself staying later. I refused to work Sunday though so I'd usually just sacrifice my Saturday nights. Here? That doesn't happen at all. 40 hours every week all year. That's a lot easier. I think it will hit me when I am going home at a normal time in tax season how much easier it is? Like, right now, I am tired. I didn't take most of my vacation days at my old job because I needed them for job interviews. I had to save them. I then let them pay me out for the days instead so I got like 7k when I left and just took 1 week off by playing with start times. So, I am tired because I did tax season and never really took a break. But, I think, as I continue to just work normal hours and I'm not being asked to work insane 80-90 hour weeks, my body will adapt and like this new expectations. They also give free lunches. That is turning into a double edged sword, though. The lunches are so big that I stopped eating dinner. I pay only $30 on groceries now a week. However, I have also begun putting on weight. I'm thinking about it today because of two reasons. My boss asked me to try to fix an IRS issue for the company since their accountant was dragging their feet and they knew I was a tax guy. So, I got to hear IRS hold music again for the first time in a long while. Then, when I got home, I found one of my old clients had found my house and left me a letter asking if I could remain their guy, which made me feel bad. I'm under contract and can't work on my old clients for two years. I don't know. There is also a part of me that feels less...satisfied at this new place? Like, the work I am doing now feels more useless? Like, sure, it keeps the company running. We need to know our book balances and we need reports to know we are making money and all that. But it doesn't feel like I'm really...helping anyone? It definitely feels more like a job than any of my time at tax companies. It feels like I always was so under the gun and so overworked that everyone had to be close in a tax company. Not to mention that helping people with their taxes made me feel useful sometimes. Then again, it also sucked? Angry clients are bad, but when I failed to help people hurt worse. And everyone's problems became my problems. At my new job, I basically forget about work the second I leave. There were times I'd be up all night worrying about a tax client or how a meeting would go. Like, when I did that inheritance from a foreign trust. I was panicked for weeks. I am also just glad that I don't negoitate prices anymore. They once asked me to call someone about a bill, but that was different. I just forwarded the boss what proof they wanted on the change order to resolve the issue, I didn't have to fight the guy. They did have me do a customer service call once, thinking about it, because apparently some guy didn't like our boss and was refusing service to him (our boss can be a jerk so I can see it) so they had me get corporate to override the hold order on our materials, but that was pretty easy. There is some drama at the new office, but not much you can do about one of the owners getting really sick. Can't plan for that or expect that to come up in an interview, especially since it happened afterwards. That does put a damper on things, but it is what it is. I don't know. I'm rambling. I bet people will tell me to STFU or something for this post. But I don't really have some place where I can just...ramble about my job in my life so I guess I did it here. If I annoyed you, sorry. Just felt like talking. My parents are overly concerned types who would freak out or lecture or whatever about anything being wrong. And a part of me doesn't want to admit to any issues because I was so proud and happy to finally be done with public accounting that it feels weird to admit that some things aren't greener in private accounting to my friends and family. I still think leaving public was the right choice. Last tax season, I literally broke down sobbing. My boss had bought 70 clients from Florida. Business clients. We were over capacity and she still did it. I begged her to let me help early on and she refused to do so saying I had too much work. But I knew, I knew, she couldn't handle it and it would fall to me. And, lo and behold, it finally did on March 10th and she didn't extend anyone yet. So, I had to do that and sales tax at the same time while working with the retiring Florida accountant. I literally had to close the office door and cry for about 10 minutes because it was just too much to handle having all that dumped on me out of nowhere. Also, the company got bought out and they took away my performance bonus when there was 15% inflation going on. Anyway, yeah, just ranting. I know you guys hate it. But, it makes me feel better. Sorry.
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Covok posted:Sorry. No need to be sorry. We care about what you think and have to say. Sorry the new work is doing some bad towards you.
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I had been wondering how your new job was going so I'm happy to see your post. It's good to hear that you're adjusting to the difference, even if it's not exactly as you had hoped. It's hard to describe the emotional difference between industry and tax public accounting, but I had a lot of similarities when I made that move several years ago. If you start to miss the emotional connections with clients, you can you can still return to tax, even if it's just volunteering with VITA or picking up some seasonal hours with another firm. The best part of an accounting career is how many options you really have.
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Covok posted:I am still adjusting to private account, going from public. Good on you refusing to work Sunday's, I think doing so really hosed my boss's health and motivation. If I didn't do the same and take one day for chores and sleep I don't think I'd be able to handle tax season. I'm also always grateful that I spent a summer working at concert venue that required 4 hours of commuting, and a bunch of physical labor on show days to make me feel like tax season hours aren't that bad. I realized reading this most recent post that most of your tax seasons have been the most hosed up tax seasons I've been through. We're both on LI and serviced the same kind of clients so we've had similar experiences. This past year was my 10th tax season and it was one of the absolute worst. Tax season hasn't really felt like it ended since 2020 and I think we both have had to handle too many clients personally because our bosses took on more than they could handle. I think because I've had easier tax seasons in the past I am more confident they will come again. Not that they are ever that easy. I also have the authority to find and hire additional bookkeepers and accountants to help carry the load so hopefully this tax season will go smoother. I mentioned that I want to buy out my office but that's not happening until after next tax season at the earliest. The banks won't give me money unless I have more liquid funds and I'm not dipping into my retirement accounts or doing a cash-out refinance on my condo when I could just sweat it out another year or two and save up. Not saying anything negative about you leaving tax, you're getting paid a lot more than I am now, and regular hours are a beautiful thing. It's just interesting to me how similar yet different our profession has treated us. I guess I'm saying that if you decided you wanted to try tax again at some point that it could be better somewhere else than at your old job, and like Missing Donut says VITA or picking up tax season work somewhere could be a nice way to find that satisfaction that your main job isn't giving you.
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It sounds like you were treated really badly and you're more or less having to be de-programmed. Give yourself a few months, if you still feel a bit disconnected you could look for volunteer opportunities like VITA, you could join the board of a non-profit, especially a "Working board member" and trust me what you do there will be valuable and impactful. Honestly to me going home and forgetting about work sounds like a dream.
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Hey, I made partner. I guess now I really do have to stick it out. Covok, your old place was treating you really badly and you were severely underpaid, it's normal to have some Stockholm syndrome and miss that foxhole camaraderie, but I think you'll be better off. You can always come back to public if you get too bored, just remember you're interviewing the firm as much as they are interviewing you.
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Femur posted:Is yardi that terrible? It's hard to explain without really doing a deep dive into property management, but a typical Yardi admin for a company is usually someone that used to work at an apartment complex as a leasing agent/manager and was deemed smart enough to work as operations/Yardi support. They usually have a decent idea on operation flow and little idea on accounting and the actual software side. And any that do usually jump ship to be a Yardi consultant, or eventually become a controller at smallish company running everything themselves.
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Today was a good reminder why I quit public accounting. My boss wanted to know why a tax thing didn't get resolved and their tax person kind of ghosted them and they wanted to see if I could figure it out. I ended up on the phone for two days trying to find out what happened. Whoo, boy do I loving hate the IRS phone times. 2 hours on hold and got disconnected two words into the conversation. Man, I am glad this is just a one off.
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i get my final CPA results in 9 days and by god I think I've finished accounting suck it nerds
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Janitor Ludwich IV posted:i get my final CPA results in 9 days and by god I think I've finished accounting nice u can finally start studying for the actuary exams (preliminary congrats)
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