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most people upon learning that non-terrestrial intelligences are real and loving around on earth would probably have a moment then just sort of accept it as part of life as they go back to grinding their soul away at work every day it's the wannabe big brains like the ones that pop in here now and then to proselytize the dogma they've built their identity around that would break down if anything most religious people globally will just be like 'well yea' wow what a lovely snype, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4YQJ6KuWvQ
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Oct 24, 2022 20:05
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Wheeee posted:most people upon learning that non-terrestrial intelligences are real and loving around on earth would probably have a moment then just sort of accept it as part of life as they go back to grinding their soul away at work every day the catholic church pre-emptively did a "well yea" already too
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Oct 24, 2022 20:12
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yea when we (I) talk about people not being equipped to handle this, it’s the chucklefuck mid-brows like the lil buckaroo who can’t help himself from posting in here every now and then that are being referred to
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Oct 24, 2022 20:37
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Everyone loves aliens, idk who thinks that humanity can't handle it. We've been talking about having sex with them for over a year in this thread!
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Oct 24, 2022 20:56
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Nichael posted:the catholic church pre-emptively did a "well yea" already too I'm not an expert in Catholicism but it seems to me there's a tradition of science and religion being two different fields and not opposed to each other's. Take George Lemaître who theorized the Big Bang, Mendl and genetics. I might also be biased because my great uncle was a nuclear physicist and a priest, but since then all the monks and priests I talked to were well educated and acknowledging all the discoveries of science. To them religion is strictly about morality and spirituality which are fields that science isn't really studying, so no competition. I also remember reading that the Vatican had a program to search exoplanets when it was the new big thing. I'm pretty certain they have already contemplated the possibility of alien life, not as a threat to their beliefs, but has a new perspective for them. SpaceGoatFarts has issued a correction as of 21:00 on Oct 24, 2022 |
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Oct 24, 2022 20:58
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Slavvy posted:What this thread has taught me: Saving Private Ryan is real Also, r/experiencers has got some stories that, true or not (who fuckin cares I say!), makes for some wild imaginings. And a few folks who might be mentally ill and could use help if so 
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Oct 24, 2022 21:25
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This is long and rough draft tier writing but idc. Ill try to make my case: I feel like relative ignorance lets you bask in poo poo like freedom from fate/determinism, pure agency and free will, and a universe in which there is no further hierarchy in which we are subjugated, that we might not be alone, and as visitors those other folks might be our friends but vOv i feel like the universe mostly writes small what's already writ large. We exist in a hierarchy, where to something above us, we are pets, cattle, curiosities, as we have subjugated, we are subjugated. Like alright try to follow me here: if you can divine human meaning from star and planetary positions relative to us, or from anywhere else, plausibility aside, that has certain implications for how the universe works, right? Like I'm not gonna pretend astrologers are always scrupulous people; there are so many people grifting it's flatly loving amazing. But when people are being earnest, serious, and as thoughtful as is possible about it, they start to try and fit the apparent functionality of divination into their concept of the universe. The thing is, a lot of that intellectual work has been done already, by pre-christian and christian-contemporary philosophies and religions that were already operating on the assumptions that this stuff was self-evident, as divinatory methods were a far more typical part of life. Some people in modern times have picked up the torch a bit too, i can think of a few names, to be sure. If you consult a stoic's take on our place in the universe, its not exactly modern, but it's not archaic in a way that doesn't fit. it's just very difficult to grapple with from the pov of someone formerly operating in a framework of belief in free will and agency. Like marcus aurelius is the big boi of stoicism since he was an emperor of rome, but there is plenty more than that if you're inclined to familiarize yourself. I am grappling with that dissonance, and in talking about this i try not to longpost too much anymore but maybe it'll be good for me, or good for those that dont get my dim view of this stuff? A curated universe thats bound by partial or complete determinism. That's depressing for me!!! I began moving from questions of "what/how is this?" To "why is this?" And, in the answers i can find, the bummer rear end poo poo that is gnosticism becomes downright hopeful to someone that desperately wants true agency in a universe where everything is bound to proceed in a specific manner! It's a dissonance between desired and experienced reality. It's honestly akin to the experience of dysphoria that kindled my transition, but where my gender dysphoria was and is alleviated by hormones and a feminine gender expression, I genuinely know of no meaningful recourse here except "try to make peace with or forget about it". It creates a sense of distress, unhappiness, and bleak attitude!!! And I've begun to resent the implications of what I'm experiencing wholesale. I guess I've felt like my life only gets more enjoyable, my outlook less bleak, when I move with a fate I dont, deep inside my being, particularly like or enjoy. Like now that i believe this poo poo, enjoying whatever this is requires accepting it as a linear experience. To take in joy and sorrow as it's dished out, not becoming overly invested in outcomes good or bad... It's experience minus agency, there is no point to the subjective value judgement one makes because the sum of your being was never negotiable, or was only ever partially negotiable. It makes extreme and profound human suffering just as meaningless as the outcome of a baseball game, and it measures virtue not on the basis of any moral value inherent to a given behavior, but only to the grace and ease with which you play your part. Dumb video game analogy but its like, at best you're Gordon Freeman. Allowed to navigate ravenholm as you see fit, within the confines of that level, but only in how you proceed to kill monsters, endure the agony of the audible suffering of chimeric monsters you dispatch with your shotgun. Even death mostly eludes Gordon, who experiences it only in a limited sense, before resetting to a checkpoint or save, until they leave ravenholm. Or, if you wanna get meta, until the player exits the game. Gordon never had a real choice about anything leading up to nor during nor after that moment. Every challenge, scripted event, etc. had to happen before gordon could proceed. Even at the very end of the game, right as his story would otherwise end, time freezes and he's plucked out, denied even oblivion, and is reinserted into the narrative. Its not perfect, but the relationship the player has with Gordon here is comparable to the experience I'm perceiving? Feels like my options are to adopt the Stoic cope, invest myself in some kind of gnostic redemptive hope that i can both escape and that there's something positive waiting for me once I do, to ignore this poo poo, pack it up, and mortar off avenues to such existential inquiry. Which I'm not really inclined to do, because existentially owning myself is better than ignorance from my current pov somehow. But the tldr is my bummer rear end attitude has to do with how well I'm handling my place in a deterministic universe i mostly believe in now, where, even if the soul is unbound, this experience absolutely is, at least strongly, determined Such that i believe in a multiverse, it's a means to curate infinite variation with this structure in place. It's not really that every decision you've ever made branches a new universe, but a universe exists with every decision you can ever make, with every decision that ever was made, can be made, including entire branches where life was never even viable, exist in parallel, and some movement between these might be possible for a higher self, but is probably out of reach for any part of you that only exists locally Ok I'm done, gently caress this lol.
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Oct 24, 2022 21:34
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Pooky posted:UFOs & Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites by Robert Lambert Hastings√ Many people recommended this one in the thread and it did not disappoint. Very interesting book.  I didn't think there were reliable accounts of mini-UAPs but sure enough.
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Oct 24, 2022 23:44
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Not disagreement per se. This is what happens when you take yourself too seriously, you start taking random shitposts too seriously and punch out walls of text like an abrahamic prophet Bilirubin posted:Saving Private Ryan is real See this is how it's done
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Oct 25, 2022 00:12
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Yeah I consider death and the afterlife and meaning and consciousness and reality serious things and take them seriously. Super embarrassing. You got my rear end
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Oct 25, 2022 00:15
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Slavvy posted:This is what happens when you take yourself too seriously, you start making great posts and punch out walls of text like an abrahamic prophet ftfy
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Oct 25, 2022 00:15
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Yeah I consider death and the afterlife and meaning and consciousness and reality serious things and take them seriously. Super embarrassing. You got my rear end Super duper serious definitely, especially in this thread, very serious yes indeed You know how serious it is when the greys smoking blunts get posted, it's a sign of respect
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Oct 25, 2022 00:19
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these lower vibrations are aligning the thread with negative dimensions and the base entities that inhabit them all of you will now be woken by shadow figures in the middle of the night and see wolfmen leering from bushes and behind trees
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Oct 25, 2022 00:34
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Slavvy posted:Super duper serious definitely, especially in this thread, very serious yes indeed these are not contradictory things
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Oct 25, 2022 00:39
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Slavvy posted:Super duper serious definitely, especially in this thread, very serious yes indeed Jokes aren't antithetical to serious considerations lol. and yeah I'm sure thread posters post here because they don't take it seriously and think it's all bullshit  If you don't take it seriously that's fine but it's weird to demand that I or anyone else shouldn't take it seriously or don't take it seriously because we don't , er, scold people for posting funny gifs? Not sure exactly
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Oct 25, 2022 00:39
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Quarterly reminder that before the [UFOs] thread the D&D space thread was subtitled: discuss aliens itt and it resulted in a never-ending clash between the serious space discussers and the ufo experiences and it was very funny and frustrating at the same time. d&d folk: um, can we please stick to SCIENCE bird watchers: no
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Oct 25, 2022 01:17
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Wheeee posted:these are not contradictory things I know Perry Mason Jar posted:Jokes aren't antithetical to serious considerations lol. and yeah I'm sure thread posters post here because they don't take it seriously and think it's all bullshit It's not about that, it's that I think you take yourself too seriously. Don't recall scolding anyone about gifs though, the projection ITT isn't just astral! I feel like if I still had my ground floor bird watchers tag this would all be much clearer but someone took it off me to own putin at one stage and IDK how to get it back
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Oct 25, 2022 01:30
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Lampsacus posted:Quarterly reminder that before the [UFOs] thread the D&D space thread was subtitled: discuss aliens itt The guy literally one post above you has spend pages arguing that UFOs are aliens. Can you even image how that discussion would go down at CERN? Boss, good news, we can throw out general relativity! We're all getting Nobel prizes! Good god! Do we have five sigma confirmation of quantum gravity from the LHC? No, we got some blurry ir videos of a UFO! Good enough for me, wrap it up boys!
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Oct 25, 2022 01:30
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Slavvy posted:I know OKay you can go ahead and think that and I'll take it under advisement ig but like I've posted funny jokes in this thread. I just wasn't doing funny stuff today im doing serious stuff and a lot of people like that too. I thought maybe you would like it which is why I quoted you and asked permission but I was wrong 
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Oct 25, 2022 01:38
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When I was a kid, probably around 1996 or so I was out looking at a meteor shower one night when I noticed what I thought was a satellite. At the time I thought "Cool! A satellite!" because I was young and hadn't seen one with the naked eye before. As the little point of light moved across the sky it suddenly and abruptly changed direction and began moving horizontally as quickly as it had been moving vertically across the sky, like one of the lightcycles from Tron. I froze for a second before it dawned on me that human built spacecraft should not be able to do that, at which point I got spooked as hell and ran inside
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Oct 25, 2022 01:43
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e wrong thread
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Oct 25, 2022 02:06
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might be because everyone's been a ball of stress for years now and stress significantly dampens your cognitive abilities
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Oct 25, 2022 02:08
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Slavvy posted:Super duper serious definitely, especially in this thread, very serious yes indeed 
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Oct 25, 2022 02:14
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i am a being pure lower vibratory function. my alternating fluxstate of judginess/crigeiness is capable of debasing entire threads in a matter of posts.
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Oct 25, 2022 02:17
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James Fox is now out there saying that photo and video evidence of the Vargahina creature is JUST MOMENTS AWAY (sic) from being released! Any day now! So long as the shadowy powers that be don't figure out how to cover it up... Seriously though let's see some grainy 90s footage of a half dead crashed alien with red eyes and three fingers. I remember the "alien interview" clip from way back giving me a serious spook, probably the most believable footage of an EBE there is, let's see more of that caliber of evidence.
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Oct 25, 2022 03:02
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this is an amusing rabbit hole https://twitter.com/RonyVernet/status/1584560898639007747 if *big if* the varginha beings are real and share dna with humans, then maybe we are a worker race (lol gold miners) who were allowed to run amok
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Oct 25, 2022 03:09
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Mood
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Oct 25, 2022 03:16
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Tekne posted:this is an amusing rabbit hole maybe we are the og lucifer...firm favourites of our creators until one day we realised we can say 'nah gently caress that' and so cast out to live here in hell lol but seriously though we do have a lot of easily relatable and very old stories involving someone being outcast, or paradise lost, or both, maybe the earliest humans remembered it as an event and over time well here we are, mucking around on the mud ball still
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Oct 25, 2022 03:29
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Im gonna lol if the reality is the plot to battlestar galactica
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Oct 25, 2022 03:35
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Tighclops posted:Im gonna lol if the reality is the plot to battlestar galactica fat adama is my spirit animal
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Oct 25, 2022 03:46
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Orange peel sized pores are actually very erogenous to the yeti I'll have you know
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Oct 25, 2022 03:51
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Aliens real, you're still hosed - NYT
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Oct 25, 2022 03:57
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Perry Mason Jar posted:OKay you can go ahead and think that and I'll take it under advisement ig but like I've posted funny jokes in this thread. I just wasn't doing funny stuff today im doing serious stuff and a lot of people like that too. I thought maybe you would like it which is why I quoted you and asked permission but I was wrong You don't need to ask permission for jack poo poo,  Seemed like you were almost doing like a reverse NDT thing, I certainly wasn't trying to make any kind of point originally beyond shitposting for the hell of it/to wind up any passing Neils. Fwiw I agree with basically everything you've posted itt and I think you're cool and good mostly. The Demilich posted:Mood I want to be this high, this is good stuff Sleekly posted:maybe we are the og lucifer...firm favourites of our creators until one day we realised we can say 'nah gently caress that' and so cast out to live here in hell lol The problem there is early hominids existing, so imo that leaves you with: We are living in Niven's protector books, early hominids were unmodified breeding stock that was left to it's own devices for too long and now we're both smart and stupid at the same time or They hybridized us with their DNA during prehistory or Our entire world was seeded with their space jizz so our biospheres have common ancestry - bear in mind 90% (iirc) of the genetic code in you is identical to every other thing on earth E: holy gently caress where did this AV come from, thank you benevolent astral poster, it is the greatest fucken thing ever and it made my goddamn day Slavvy has issued a correction as of 04:46 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Oct 25, 2022 04:44
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Barry Foster posted:NDE accounts are honestly astonishing, and whatever they are - ontologically speaking - they are verifiable by their fruits, if nothing else. They Do Things to People. I really enjoyed the first half of Kean's book. The stories were fascinating and like UAPs, it's amazing how often these stories line up. Enough so it's opened me up to the idea. Like you said though, the medium part is what lost me. I can't buy into the physical manifestation of apparitions. She even has a line in the book that basically says this poo poo is so wild you probably want to stop reading. Yes, you're right. Still finished it but it left a sour taste. If it wasn't for all the other accounts outside of the book I'd have dismissed it and the UFO one she wrote.
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Oct 25, 2022 05:15
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papersack posted:I can't buy into the physical manifestation of apparitions. Spencer is real and my friend
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Oct 25, 2022 05:43
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Remember your posts are being judged.
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Oct 25, 2022 05:45
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The Demilich posted:Remember your posts are being judged. somethingawful is merely a tendril of the cosmic forum. permalurkers? yeah those guys are aliens
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Oct 25, 2022 05:47
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Slavvy posted:What this thread has taught me:  Tighclops posted:When I was a kid, probably around 1996 or so I was out looking at a meteor shower one night when I noticed what I thought was a satellite. At the time I thought "Cool! A satellite!" because I was young and hadn't seen one with the naked eye before. As the little point of light moved across the sky it suddenly and abruptly changed direction and began moving horizontally as quickly as it had been moving vertically across the sky, like one of the lightcycles from Tron. a few months ago at like 2-3am i saw either a big/low orbit satellite break in two. it was moving across the sky looking very much like the ISS and then all of a sudden it splits into two pieces, and the bigger piece and the littler piece seemed to keep moving roughly parallel at the same speed and brightness as before. then they were behind trees
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Oct 25, 2022 06:33
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Gravid Topiary posted:
Could've been star link? I think it deploys like that. Though I think there's usually more than two lights when that happens (THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS)
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Oct 25, 2022 06:36
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Slavvy posted:Seemed like you were almost doing like a reverse NDT thing, I certainly wasn't trying to make any kind of point originally beyond shitposting for the hell of it/to wind up any passing Neils. Fwiw I agree with basically everything you've posted itt and I think you're cool and good mostly. Ah, no. I was seeking specificity by and large and did make some effort to minimize any of my personal beliefs or any dogmatism of any kind but I can see what you mean Cheers, appreciate you
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