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Barudak posted:I do not think that the calling up of people with disabilities is a mistake. The way recruitment is structured it very much seems people the Russian state aren't fond of (ethnic minorities and those with disabilities and prison sentences and oppose the state) are sent to the fronts to die and buy time for actual training for people from Moscow/St. Petersburg. It is human ablative armor. Yeah, there's no way that's going to turn out how they think it. Those how ever many thousand they get to finish basic training* are still gonna be lead by the same impotent leaders they currently have on the fount, and they're going to be surrounded by incompetent untrained soldiers probably suffering really bad mental trauma from seeing everyone around them getting killed all the time for the last two month. *I have absolutely no confidence they will actually get anything other than the most half rear end'ed training at the very most. Training cost money that could be going into military leaders bank accounts where it belongs.
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thetoughestbean posted:I’m confused. Are we allowed to gently caress the tanks or not? Buddy, they don't even let Zippy gently caress the tanks!
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KitConstantine posted:Ya want maps? I got ya maps loving amazes me how much territory they reclaimed. The Russian government really was not ready for any kind of major resistance to anything they did. In my opinion, they should not have assisted the American Republicans by helping them pad their Twitter follower count, either.
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Maps! Thanks for all you do to keep this thread trucking Kit, it's appreciated.Barudak posted:I do not think that the calling up of people with disabilities is a mistake. The way recruitment is structured it very much seems people the Russian state aren't fond of (ethnic minorities and those with disabilities and prison sentences and oppose the state) are sent to the fronts to die and buy time for actual training for people from Moscow/St. Petersburg. It is human ablative armor. I meant that more in the sense that it could plausibly be called a mistake, but I agree, it does seem deliberate. Why then did they stop mobilising in the cities, they can't honestly think that they've got enough 'high quality' troops to train up, right? That part seems most likely to be a gently caress up, like they didn't anticipate how poorly it would go over.
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CONTENT WARNING: Thread content not related to the forums Someone I know teaches English online to Europeans, and maybe a quarter of the students are Russians (and many Ukrainians, too, so he's hearing stories from working professionals on both sides). One of his Russian students disappeared for a while and finally logged back in recently, since the lessons were pre-paid. He had some stuff to say: --The guy is computer toucher in one of the larger cities, working for the government. He heard about a possible coming mobilization, so he resigned from his government job in Russia, packed his stuff, and left the country. His resignation was fully accepted and signed. He told his neighbors he was leaving and why, and they all understood. --Mobilization begins soon after and a bunch of recruitment officers come to his apartment, but nobody's there, so they go to his neighbors and tell him he (the OP) needs to take his rear end to the military office to get sent for training because he's on the list. The neighbor tells the officers OP quit his job and he's long gone and to forget about him. --Guy gets a long email from his former government workplace stating that "oops, we didn't actually mean it when we said you could resign, so we still own you, and we demand you do your civic duty and get mobilized." --Officers come back to his apartment to check again and then tell the neighbor the same thing as the email and to pass the info along. --Guy gets another email demanding to know where he's hiding. He ghosts them instead of trying to argue with obvious liars. --Guy gets another email saying when he returns to Russia he'll be thrown in jail for a few years, if not immediately mobilized, or both mobilized AND jail. --Guy stops checking emails. Problem solved.
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Deki posted:So now that it's been long enough to see that the conscripts seem to mostly be thrown on the front without more than a few weeks of training, I still can't figure out what was the actual point of the mobilization, outside of maybe having bodies to throw into the meat grinder that aren't specialists trained in other roles. *minutes
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Good news, the Russians are now recruiting former Afghan Army SF to fight in Ukraine. I'm sure this will end well. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/25/afghanistan-russia-ukraine-military-recruitment-putin-taliban/
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Deki posted:So now that it's been long enough to see that the conscripts seem to mostly be thrown on the front without more than a few weeks of training, I still can't figure out what was the actual point of the mobilization, outside of maybe having bodies to throw into the meat grinder that aren't specialists trained in other roles.
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PITY BONER posted:CONTENT WARNING: Thread content not related to the forums Ahhh, the IT dream: Go home one day and just never check your emails or hear from a bunch of end users again.
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I reserve the right to call out any assholes in this thread because I’m literally related to any Kopiaks in Ukraine right loving now. Slava Ukraini!
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I have a Russian coworker, recruiters showed up at her husband's grandparents house and he had to talk to them over the phone telling them he is in the US and not to do anything to his grandparents. If he goes back he's going to jail. They tried to recruit his 54 year old dad, but he escaped in time to Uzbekistan. Coworker's mom is here in the US helping take care of some new kids (twins.) She (the mom) supports Putin still. ascii genitals fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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ascii genitals posted:I have a Russian coworker, recruiters showed up at her husband's grandparents house and he had to talk to them over the phone telling them he is in the US and not to do anything to his grandparents. If he goes back he's goi g to jail. They tried to recruit his 54 year old dad, but he escaped in time to Uzbekistan. drat that's lame af.
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PITY BONER posted:CONTENT WARNING: Thread content not related to the forums Checking emails has never helped anyone ever. Seriously, good for him on getting out News news news news Russian article on why mobilization won't help - tweet below is a quote from the article https://twitter.com/JimFraserUk/status/1585555030345715713?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g quote:... https://twitter.com/aaron_schwa/status/1585666765333356545?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g More interesting data https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1585616938390228999?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g Article about the new anti-LGBT law that the Russian Duma just passed https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status/1585558068582125570?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g https://twitter.com/FridhKleberg/status/1585574486081937408?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g Wow this Lapin guy sounds like a real dick! https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1585622647337107456?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g quote:The Moscow resident was mobilized on September 22, and was already in Ukraine on October 7. According to Sota, he received a rusty gun and no training “apart from one day of shooting practice.” He and his fellow conscripts were sent to an area near the city of Svatove in the annexed Luhansk region. They were under fire for at least a day and a half, as a result of which no fewer than 10 men were killed. The Moscow man and his fellow conscripts decided to retreat to Svatove to get new orders. https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/1585568416215273473?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g Video report on Wagner, for the interested https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1585553004597477376?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g Now for some translations: Kadyrov confirms the strike from earlier this week: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1585787311807045632?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g And a familiar name https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1585779831739805696?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g More slapfighting  https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1585744474033991680?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1585744556305154048?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g New Drone just...well, not 'dropped', that would be counterproductive https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1585612336722739201?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g Wild video, shockingly no on-camera violence but does show POWs at the end https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1585623450437263362?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g US MIC Go BRRRRRRRRRR https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1585799902625665024?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g Nice thing - rebuilding https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1585766912541483008?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g
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ascii genitals posted:They tried to recruit his 54 year old dad, but he escaped in time to Uzbekistan. *I think Turkic languages are cool, but Uzbek is the coolest of them all. As a topic, though, I really wonder what's going to happen post-war to the millions of escapees. If Putin is still in power, I believe they'll all get some jail time, but who knows. Amnesty? No clue, but it's going to be a huge mess, just like everything else Russia's war has done to Russia.
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From what I've seen living here, Texas is a popular place to flee to, Russians and Ukranians alike. I've heard some stories of getting a tan in Mexico and then crossing the border illegally. Nobody's gonna out you here, that's for sure. If you are here in the US reading this: Welcome home, dragons. Enjoy it here, it's nice. Get a sports car, a truck, a dog, and a wife. It's a good way to be. Waffle House fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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ascii genitals posted:I have a Russian coworker, recruiters showed up at her husband's grandparents house and he had to talk to them over the phone telling them he is in the US and not to do anything to his grandparents. If he goes back he's goi g to jail. They tried to recruit his 54 year old dad, but he escaped in time to Uzbekistan. I know a Russian national who is married to one of my college friends. He hasn't seen his wife in person since January since he went back home to take care of some family issues and hasn't been able to go back because his dad doesn't want him to and controls the checkbook. He's a giant dick who supports the war, but is mad that some of his friends got rounded up to go. The Russian dude who is married to one of my mom's coworkers (who is a Ukrainian immigrant) got approval to leave the country (from his work? the govt? I don't know) so he could do the same family get-together they've done the past few years since she moved to the US. I guess this time he just didn't go back. I don't know if he's in the states with his family, hope he is.
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Re tightening of rules on pictures/bloodlust/etc. I want to see how it plays out but feels very intentionally designed to be weaponized against folks who post content, in a don’t post twitter threads of massacres so it’s easier for someone to deny bad things happening or post remotely positively if Ukraine reclaims a town, because both sides are “jointly responsible for this war”. Which are both problematic to me as a cudgel to obsifucabte Russians overwhelming singular responsibility. I’m tiptoeing around it a lot, but the version of the proposed rules feels very intentionally aimed towards silencing this thread. For content: Seems like Russian bloggers are desperate to get in someone’s good graces: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1585587514383138817 Kadyrov admits a bunch of his folks got hit, claims they immediately assaulted some trees in a forest in retaliation: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1585787307050803205
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^ jinx, we both said weaponized at the same time KitConstantine posted:
I wanna say a quick thing on this because people were discussing how to draw the line on jokes-vs-Ghoulism & thread got closed earlier before i could post m'post. I'm not trying to start a derail on it, but i feel like this could be a helpful metric for others to clarify wherd stuff generally gets icky. Also I care about people's mental health as there's definitely a slippery slope w/r/t humor+active warfare being processed and discussed without having prepared a healthy mindset for it A nice, clean delineation for this would probably be if the joke's not promoting a certain point of view on/related to the topic, and is also actually funny (which is subjective, but if multiple people don't find it funny and draw offense: it probably wasn't funny). i.e. A successful dark joke in the context of people dying or other such subjects will almost always be structured around the humor of the statement/observation/reference being made in itself, and the content of it will be centered on that aspect. Not on the people dying, how they're dying, nor celebratory/implicative of their deaths being good/funny in itself. [ Please do note that this very easily runs into conflict with the issue of invading Russian troops being neutralized being objectively good for the Ukrainian war effort. This makes it a poor setting for most jokes, and very easy to stumble into death-celebration territory. War is a terrible thing! It's important, for your own mental health, to remember: combat victories and the destruction of human beings are two very different things that often occur alongside eachother in war. Don't conflate the two, and try to be conscious to not be celebrating the wrong part, as that's a major route to dehumanization & ghoulin' around. It could happen to YOU. YOU YOU ] If a joke relating to people dying/suffering requires the reader to subscribe to a specific ideopolitical worldview in order to find funny, and will not be at all funny to anyone who does not, it's no longer a joke. That is the weaponization of humor to foster ideopolitical narratives, and when it's combined with people dying/suffering, that's when edgy jokes cross into reprehensible poo poo, every time Good example of well executed dark/edgy humor: the FYAD DOOM-activeshooter thread (Sorry for killing the joke, pretend you didn't see this if you read that thread ):it's taking a topic that is extremely difficult to make jokes about, and doing it successfully largely because it's not focused directly on people dying in school shootings and does not require a pro/anti perspective on any facet of the issue to find the thread funny. The topic is being used as a canvas for creative/absurdist humor by juxtaposing it against doom/fps tropes, and not to push any agenda nor celebrating or making light of people dying in itself. This is difficult to successfully do - and should be Low-effort/lazy jokes and sensitive topics are not a good match. If you're gonna try to go there, you gotta put in the work to do it well, or it's gonna stink FirstnameLastname fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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freeasinbeer posted:Re tightening of rules on pictures/bloodlust/etc. All I can say is I don't plan on enforcing it that way. I was definitely a little too lenient on people posting jokes or 'jokes' that crossed lines, and that means people did what people do and kept pushing the line out further and further. That's on me. The rules I posted are literally unchanged from what I put in the OP during the thread reboot. We have to see what the admins come up with, but for now they are in force. The 9 o'clock news is a pretty universal standard (except for titties which are worse than dead bodies in the US and shan't be shown uncensored no matter time of day) and I think it's a fair one. Content warnings are key. If you are good faith about your content warnings I'll be good faith in handling posts that mis-embed things. Jokes are always subjective but I try my best to be clear in my probe messages why something got hit and I don't plan on changing that.
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freeasinbeer posted:Re tightening of rules on pictures/bloodlust/etc. I am not sure how this affects pictures of war crimes and such, but in my own opinion, in-line linking of pictures of dead bodies, even for a righteous cause, is grotesque and cruel to random passerby. If something like "This is an article with photographs of a mass grave and its contents, (link)" is against these rules that is rather bad.
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note - discussing moderation for this thread is always on topic. I'd prefer if it didn't start a lengthy derail but as people should know by now I'm happy to words it the gently caress up if asked I do sleep and have a life tho. so. responses delayed on occasion
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Kadyrov is a loving idiot piece of poo poo. What a loving stooge of a show piece. The only front lines he sent his sons to were to get photographed with UFC fighters.
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I’m gonna eat a probe but: Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:Here's a SYQ for you, to be completely above board: The discussion in the cspam thread is actively slinging poo poo, and there perspective is basically any pictures are snuff films. Which dovetails nicely with their constant denial of things like bucha. That along with an active admin in their thread as well as some of the people like seth who folks ITT engaged in good faith, giving them the all clear, means this issue is not going away. And that’s why we’re pissed and bring it up over and over. And that’s why the simple rules and interpretations of it very much make me nervous. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nessus posted:My interpretation of these statements is to avoid pictures of actual dead people or things like the grenade drop onto an individual Russian trooper in a trench, and to avoid "thank God that a bunch of Russians died in agony!" vs. "thank God the Russians got driven out of Kherson!" What about posting pictures of dead bodies, but photoshopping a My Little Pony character into the picture to make it more real and to drive home the horror and cruelty of war and man's inhumanity to man?
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Cthulu Carl posted:What about posting pictures of dead bodies, but photoshopping a My Little Pony character into the picture to make it more real and to drive home the horror and cruelty of war and man's inhumanity to man? I have made mistakes, and I admit that, but one mistake I will never make is allowing bronies to infest this thread govern yourselves accordingly edit: also the thread staying on slowmode over night. Shan't apologize KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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KitConstantine posted:The rules I posted are literally unchanged from what I put in the OP during the thread reboot. We have to see what the admins come up with, but for now they are in force. The 9 o'clock news is a pretty universal standard (except for titties which are worse than dead bodies in the US and shan't be shown uncensored no matter time of day) and I think it's a fair one. The thread was closed before I had a chance to reply earlier, but as it has sort of come up again I'd say re: the "NWS images" rules mentioned earlier that I think the current rules on that strike a good balance. Didn't want to give the impression I was suggesting something different. Among other things, I think the "Is this newsworthy?" criterion is important, although maybe difficult to draw bright lines around. Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Cthulu Carl posted:What about posting pictures of dead bodies, but photoshopping a My Little Pony character into the picture to make it more real and to drive home the horror and cruelty of war and man's inhumanity to man?
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I don't post much in this thread but I just wanted to toss in another thank you to KitConstantine for keeping this thread helpful and informative. Despite all the derails I still get a ton of news and info from it. Thanks for all that you do!
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Outrail posted:Is there an SA org chart somewhere? As far as I knew it was: There's an old, but still relevant thread that should have this and other information in the QCS forum: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3910321 Cthulu Carl posted:What about posting pictures of dead bodies, but photoshopping a My Little Pony character into the picture to make it more real and to drive home the horror and cruelty of war and man's inhumanity to man? Hopefully a permaban.
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KitConstantine posted:https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1585612336722739201?s=20&t=5N9V6KjT3BXfCXLhYuOi4g it's cute it's got a little parachute.
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I for one am happy that Russia is struggling to invade another country. It brings a smile to my face. No one should be pulling this poo poo. Didn't like it when America did it, don't like it with Russia now. I'm sorry for my unpopular opinion, and I'll go stand at the gallows. Thank you.
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tiaz posted:Javelin does thermals but by doing actual shape recognition rather than just chasing the hottest spot, it won't be affected at all Could this approach change the thermal silhouette sufficiently that it wasn’t recognized as a tank? Not to cause the javelin to attack the bucket of coals, but to keep it from seeing the vehicle as a target in the first place.
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LifeSunDeath posted:it's cute it's got a little parachute. It also simplifies operation. Landing is one of the harder parts of operating one of these, if all you have to do is get it near you and hit the parachute button it's much easier to train people up on. Subjunctive posted:Could this approach change the thermal silhouette sufficiently that it wasn’t recognized as a tank? Not to cause the javelin to attack the bucket of coals, but to keep it from seeing the vehicle as a target in the first place. Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not an expert on the system - but my understanding is that it's arbitrary: you put the target in the viewfinder and basically take a picture that it will use to home in on, and the missile continues taking images and comparing them to what it understood to be the target in the previous frame to set a new aim point. Don't put the flaming charcoal bucket in the "destroy this" brackets, it won't decide to target it.
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