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Codependent Poster posted:Because nobody but a few people liked the idea of the Crucible Meta.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:I've only just caught up on AXE but I don't recall anyone really suggesting that anything that's happened has improved the queue and workload. I do remember several moments of them navigating the limitations and noting how much more there is to do, though.
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Oct 28, 2022 03:56
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I really don't think they've presented the Waiting Room as a solution to the backlog since they make it a point to discuss the resurrection queue fairly frequently. It's a solution to the "they died before we thought of this plan and could back them up" problem.
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Oct 28, 2022 04:05
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Right, as I said the WR is still an overall good thing because it brings back mutants who hadn't been scanned. But it being presented as an alternative to Crucible made no sense at the time and still doesn't. If you're a mutant still depowered by M-day, like...what do you even do, now? Just join the euthanasia queue and hope they get to you in however many years? And that's also after the dozen X-Men teams who are also dying every day anyway, holding up the line, and now the sick human children Jean picks out to also take up 5% of the Five's time.
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Oct 28, 2022 04:14
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BrianWilly posted:It literally doesn't replace the Crucible, unless you mean that it's just an alternate, painless way for mutants to euthanize themselves. Yeah, and Crucible is a painful public spectacle for people to kill themselves. It replaces that. I also don't know where you're seeing that it's phrased that the Waiting Room fixed the queue problems. Do you have a quote from an issue?
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Oct 28, 2022 04:37
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Yeah, and Crucible is a painful public spectacle for people to kill themselves. It replaces that. I don't know how to make this any clearer. You can't "replace" something if you're doing the opposite of what it's supposed to do. Right now a depowered mutant's options are to go through the brutal spectable of the Crucible, or else walk through the Waiting Room to wait their turn along with the millions still dead and waiting, and trying to cut down on the millions still dead and waiting was the point of the Crucible in the first place. Abroham Lincoln posted:I also don't know where you're seeing that it's phrased that the Waiting Room fixed the queue problems. Do you have a quote from an issue?
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Oct 28, 2022 04:57
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They really should add Tempo to the Five. :v
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Synthbuttrange posted:They really should add Tempo to the Five. :v
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Oct 28, 2022 06:14
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Now that I think about it, kinda weird that they have Tempo and Tempus and they're both X-women with...roughly the same powers? If I had to no-prize an explanation for why they can't just use time powers to speed up the rez process, it might be that they're already using timey-wimey powers to age the husks to the right age, along with Proteus' reality-warping, so using even more timey-wimey stuff in the process runs the risk of effing that up in unpredictable ways. As Egg once said, the eggs are very delicate  Just my speculation though. Pay me, Marvel.Speaking of timey-wimey stuff, poor Anole has to be caught in a time-loop or something 'cuz I'm certain he'd already graduated, and yet here he is still taking classes in New Mutants. I think at one point Elixir actually refers to the Lost Club as "kiddos" and it's like...dude. Victor was in your same class. 
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Oct 28, 2022 06:29
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Synthbuttrange posted:They really should add Tempo to the Five. :v Maybe Tempo does not really like them.
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Oct 28, 2022 08:30
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BrianWilly posted:Now that I think about it, kinda weird that they have Tempo and Tempus and they're both X-women with...roughly the same powers? A lot of adults take creative writing classes, for example, in that exact scene, Karma's girlfriend Galura. I think a good like 20-30% of students I get in creative writing classes are people who work at the university and want to take a fun-sounding class since they can enroll for cheap or free. I also have to imagine Krakoan pedagogy is more progressive than human pedagogy so perhaps this class was like one of the many creative workshops in the world that exist outside of traditional academic institutions and which people just take for kicks or for their own enrichment. Why was Anole whining if this was the case? Because Anole likes to whine.
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Oct 28, 2022 08:46
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Oct 28, 2022 09:44
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At this point, poor Anole's whole deal is getting a raw deal and I hate it. He was a full-fledged X-man for gently caress's sake!
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Oct 28, 2022 12:48
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Poor guy can hang out with Pixie and commiserate, I guess.
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Oct 28, 2022 15:00
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Did they ever explain why they couldn't just make multiple copies of the Five and dramatically increase the resurrection rate? I'm sure there's ordinances against reviving people who aren't dead in general, but what with the millions of dead Genoshans situation it seems like a good spot for a specific exception.
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Oct 28, 2022 15:10
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Because there's still that question on if the people they're bringing back are actually like, them and their souls or not. That's why they don't want to bring back people unless they know for sure they've died. And with Old Laura we'll probably get into that more.
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Oct 28, 2022 15:27
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that's already been answered, oddly enough. pixie's soul was mutilated which gave her a soul dagger. it was not based on her body or mutant power at all. then she died, was brought back and still had the dagger. that she might not was never even brought up as a potential concern.
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Codependent Poster posted:Because there's still that question on if the people they're bringing back are actually like, them and their souls or not. That's why they don't want to bring back people unless they know for sure they've died. Have they actually stated which outcome would be the bad one? Do they want to avoid creating soulless abominations, or do they want to dodge the philosophical apocalypse of finding out every clone has a soul even if their predecessor is alive? And wasn't Forge running around with some sort of Caliban jacket? Is Caliban dead? I'm not 100% up to date on the status quo.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:that's already been answered, oddly enough. pixie's soul was mutilated which gave her a soul dagger. it was not based on her body or mutant power at all. then she died, was brought back and still had the dagger. that she might not was never even brought up as a potential concern. It's been answered more thoroughly than that during both Way of X and Trial of Magneto. They're backing up the real you, anima amd all, but the part of your soul that doesn't get backed up, your missing time, still dies and passes on without the rest of you. That's what Onslaught was feeding on. That's what happened to Wanda (though she just ended up resurrecting herself the rest of the way).
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Dawgstar posted:Poor guy can hang out with Pixie and commiserate, I guess. both still doing better than Rockslide!!!! yes I'm still mad
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Cabbit posted:Have they actually stated which outcome would be the bad one? Do they want to avoid creating soulless abominations, or do they want to dodge the philosophical apocalypse of finding out every clone has a soul even if their predecessor is alive?
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Cabbit posted:Have they actually stated which outcome would be the bad one? Do they want to avoid creating soulless abominations, or do they want to dodge the philosophical apocalypse of finding out every clone has a soul even if their predecessor is alive? They are basically trying to thread the needle between "bringing back our people" and "exploiting and dehumanizing our people by churning them out like the latest smart phone." As for the Caliban suit, it was explained in the last issue of X-Men that Forge made the suit to mimic other mutant powers as part of the Vault rescue mission, and needed Caliban's mutant sensing powers. Except, that power is so linked to Caliban's mind that it can't be duplicated without a full copy of his mind. So, he loaded up Caliban's backup from Cerebro. He told the Caliban suite that he had gotten permission from the still living Caliban back on Krakoa to do this, but given we only see him discussing the creation of the suit with Sinister, this was probably a lie.
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I was two weeks behind so here's some old poo poo before I talk about new poo poo.How Wonderful! posted:Honestly he's not even in my top five worst runs on the flagship title, and I think he had a lot of strong tertiary stuff (Multiple Man, his brief Astonishing run, NM: Dead Souls...). I think the only thing I hate more than Milligan X-force/X-Statix is Morrison X-Men. Don't get me wrong, I love the ideas and, at least with force/statix, I love the art. But I just cannot engage with those stories at all. X-Statix reminds me of breaking bad in that everyone raves about how great it is, but I actively despise every single character. How Wonderful! posted:I also had tentative high hopes for both Jason Aaron's and Paul Cornell's Wolverine runs and wound up not super impressed with either. So since you read through Wolverine, something I did a few years back, what do you think of the Hama Wolverine? Those were the books that built my impression of the character. Vulpes Vulpes posted:It's a quantum probability pulsator, a piece of hardware implanted by Doc Tramma along with her claws (as seen in Web of Spider-Man Vol.2, #11, a reaaaaal early Pepe Larraz story). Anyways, didn't really care for the ending of AXE, but there was really no other way it could go. I think ressurecting Cap was to show that mutants could do it for humans and set up the Phoenix Foundation. X-Terminators is amazing and I love it. I cannot wait for next issue when Williams really cuts loose. On this weeks Cerebro she mentions how it wasn't until issue three that she found out this was a mature readers book. I love X-Men, I love vampires, I love when X-folk have to gently caress up vampires so much this is great!
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Soonmot posted:So since you read through Wolverine, something I did a few years back, what do you think of the Hama Wolverine? Those were the books that built my impression of the character. Best run I think, he really understands that Logan works when you make him a straight man against the bananas stuff of the Marvel universe. I think it starts to putter out towards the end, much like PAD's Hulk, as more and more plot points are mandated to him from above, but the first half decade are near perfect superhero comics. quote:X-Terminators is amazing and I love it. I cannot wait for next issue when Williams really cuts loose. On this weeks Cerebro she mentions how it wasn't until issue three that she found out this was a mature readers book. I love X-Men, I love vampires, I love when X-folk have to gently caress up vampires so much this is great! Great episode, I was losing my mind when it's like: Connor Goldsmith: So I do have to imagine there'll be a more serious turn later on in the-- Leah Williams: Nope
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Loved that Leah's notebook for X-Terminators is covered in waifu stickers. Also, this page made me think of the Laura discussion earlier in the thread. 
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Speaking of podcasts, Graymalkin Lane released an interview with the one the only Chuck Austen this weekend and it's a cool listen with some interesting revelations if you're still looking back on that run thinking "waaat the gently caress." I think that the interview was a bit more...hmm, "softball" and complimentary towards Austen's stuff (did you honestly enjoy Angel and Husk together, Chad? Did you really?  ) due to, like, the podcaster just being a decent respectful human being, especially given the stuff mentioned here about the hate and death threats Austen (and his family!) had received, but he's generally a good sport about all this stuff.Some tidbids of note: He did always intend to write Iceman as closeted and self-hating about it. Those vibes were on purpose, based off of IRL people that a gay friend had discussed with him. He actually likes Stacy X a lot? Which is wild to me 'cuz it seems like he wrote her out of the book so suddenly, but apparently she was actually intended to come back in a later story. Literally doesn't remember Mammomax JUSTICE FOR FISH BOY
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That sounds cool, podcasts are where it's at. https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/yisv0k/made_a_cyclops_pumpkin_today_happy_halloween/ This is a good pumpkin.
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Now we're talking! X-Men Red finally reveals all the tapestry of different plots from the previous SWORD title + Vulcan's whole deal and it's coming together pretty well. I'm impressed. I thought some plots points would have been dropped by now, but nope, everything's here.
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It may go without saying, but there's a lot here from Ewing's Guardians of the Galaxy run. I don't think it would ruin anything if you haven't read it, but he's definitely pulling from his own body of work.
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Wanderer posted:It may go without saying, but there's a lot here from Ewing's Guardians of the Galaxy run. I don't think it would ruin anything if you haven't read it, but he's definitely pulling from his own body of work. It's a great run and worth reading, plus it's got Star Lord in a throuple.
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Speaking of, just saw there's a new GotG on-going. Not by Ewing, though. Never heard of this other writer either. Worth a read or meh?
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Saoshyant posted:Speaking of, just saw there's a new GotG on-going. Not by Ewing, though. Never heard of this other writer either. Worth a read or meh? Kevin Shinick is a TV guy who's worked on a lot, including "Robot Chicken," so I assume he's a buddy of Zeb Wells. I flipped through the book in the store and it looks like it's an MCU tie-in. Seemed pretty skippable.
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A skip it is. Thanks.
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Ewing is just consistently hitting every issue out of the park. Probably been the most worthwhile writer at Marvel for years now. Interestingly, the World Farm and the Progenitors (no relation to The Progenitor of Judgment Day) are also from an older Ewing series, Royals, where it was revealed they were originally the godlike beings that genetically modified created the Kree, who then genetically modified the Inhumans. Last minute "WHAT'S THIS, IT'S BLACK BOLT WITH A STEEL CHAIR!" moment to upend Vulcan's shenanigans, please and thank you? Although what's probably more likely to happen is that Storm just sics Uranos on the current proceedings. 
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Wanderer posted:Kevin Shinick is a TV guy who's worked on a lot, including "Robot Chicken," so I assume he's a buddy of Zeb Wells. Not even the MCU but the ride of the same name. There is a new Guardians series coming out next year but I'm not sure there's been a creative team announced for it yet.
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Ewing is what Coates wishes he was in terms of pulling things together from all his runs. Like a lot of threads are coming together in X-Men Red from tons of things, and Ewing also references other things he didn't write like how Frenzy is still in love with Scott from the Age of X storyline. I just really want Nova to be a full-fledged member of the X-Men too. I love how he's getting so much respect from Ewing. I want to see him kick Vulcan's rear end so bad.
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I don't understand what Brand wants.
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Endless Mike posted:I don't understand what Brand wants. It's pretty much all laid out in the data page at the end of the last X-Men Red issues. She wants to position Sol (aka Earth) as a major political power on an intergalactic stage, while also insuring she has plenty of influence over Earth's policies regarding space. It's a power grab.
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Brand wants Earth and the Sol system to be the major player in the galaxy and everyone else to fear them and she wants to be in control of it all.
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