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World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
i fully support this union of the woke activist mobs and musk to destroy the great evil of twitter

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Kalli posted:

It's okay, Elon has a plan, and it's.... crying about the woke mob

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

General Mills, Audi, and Pfizer - three of the biggest advertisers on Twitter that weren't part of the initial group that backed out have also announced that they are "temporarily suspending" all business with Twitter.

Musk really boned himself by letting the racial slurs run wild the first few days. I guarantee you wouldn't have all of the advertisers getting skittish at the same time if he hadn't made all the news the first few days about racial slurs and then used the word "Hellscape" as a description of the company in a company press release.

Also, by making himself so synonymous with Twitter as a brand and just winging all his decisions in public, Twitter is always going to be associated with whatever crazy stuff he's saying and doing. Previously, nobody really cared about what Twitter's CEO and board were doing. They could have been total psychos in private, but they weren't broadcasting it and saying that racial slurs are an important part of the company brand in public.

https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1588529099638820864

Meatball
Mar 2, 2003

That's a Spicy Meatball

Pillbug
If he restores moderation to please advertisers, he'll piss off the chuds and his fan boys, who want to be able to be horrible shitheads and post slurs (and undoubtedly porn too).

If he reduces the moderation, everyone including advertisers will leave as it becomes a morass of hate speech, facism and porn, like every other unmoderated space on the internet.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.
The intelligent and reasoned option is to do whatever the gently caress the advertisers want because the entire platform is for them, and he could get a hundred dollars a month from every chud that posts on the site and it wouldn't be a fraction of what the advertisers bring in.

So I'm sure that's exactly what he's not going to do.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

That's fair - I would have to look into this one, and also think about whether it's something we want. Certainly I like that image and url tags are separate and wouldn't want to "preview" images in the latter. I do agree it'd be nice to have some clue what a link was about though.

Back in the days before everyone got used to just dumping Twitter embeds instead of writing their own posts, the person posting the link would also just type some words about the link.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

General Mills, Audi, and Pfizer - three of the biggest advertisers on Twitter that weren't part of the initial group that backed out have also announced that they are "temporarily suspending" all business with Twitter.

Musk really boned himself by letting the racial slurs run wild the first few days. I guarantee you wouldn't have all of the advertisers getting skittish at the same time if he hadn't made all the news the first few days about racial slurs and then used the word "Hellscape" as a description of the company in a company press release.

Also, by making himself so synonymous with Twitter as a brand and just winging all his decisions in public, Twitter is always going to be associated with whatever crazy stuff he's saying and doing. Previously, nobody really cared about what Twitter's CEO and board were doing. They could have been total psychos in private, but they weren't broadcasting it and saying that racial slurs are an important part of the company brand in public.

https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1588529099638820864

The advertisers aren't actually out there counting the n-words yet, they're judging how committed Musk is to their interests. If he had a team of people staying in constant contact with advertisers following the normal corporate playbook of issuing boring statements about transition difficulties or whatever, the advertisers would be happy.

Instead, Twitter's "head of customer" has resigned, and Twitter's moderation team has been locked out of the mod tools. Advertisers are hearing basically jack poo poo from Twitter, and instead of doing something to reassure the advertisers, Musk is busy tweeting memes about owning the bluechecks, getting into Twitter feuds with left-wing politicians, and going "hmm very interesting I'll look into this" in the replies of far-right memesters. On top of that, his massive hurry to directly monetize the userbase will clearly decrease Twitter's dependence on advertisers. Put all that together and they've probably got negative trust in him right now.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Kalli posted:

It's okay, Elon has a plan, and it's.... crying about the woke mob

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

The My Pillow guy tried the same tactic, let's see how that worked out for him.

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

Follow up from yesterday. Looks like the FBI identified and interviewed a suspect they believe was involved with the threats. He admitted that he hates Jewish people and that he was very angry, but he totally wasn't going to actually do anything, guys.

I'm honestly impressed how quickly the FBI tracked someone down in relation to this, regardless of the suspects intentions. However, I hope this isn't the start of other extremists making similar threats.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/03/us/fbi-newark-threat-to-synagogues/index.html

(bolding mine)

quote:

An individual has been identified and interviewed in connection with a broad threat to synagogues in New Jersey, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

The individual has told authorities that he does not like Jewish people and was very angry, but he indicated that he was not going to do anything harmful, the sources said.

An online posting with antisemitic comments in a forum that is frequented by extremists prompted an FBI alert Thursday night, CNN reported.

The multiple sources tell CNN they were tipped off to the original posting.

Authorities were alarmed because the posting was written as if an attack had already occurred, the sources explained. Similar writings have been posted by “active shooters” in several incidents across the country just prior to their attacks.

That factored significantly into the urgency of locating him and also releasing the broad warning to the Jewish community, the sources said.

It’s unclear at this time what, if any, charges the individual will face.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Kalli posted:

It's okay, Elon has a plan, and it's.... crying about the woke mob

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

Feels very appropriate that his Twitter icon is a baby.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Kalli posted:

It's okay, Elon has a plan, and it's.... crying about the woke mob

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

to be fair, i entirely agree that a dumb activist mob has effectively pressured advertisers before elon has even had a chance to change content moderation and elon did everything he could to appease those activists

i, uh, just don't think he has identified what activist mob that was correctly

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Prism posted:

Feels very appropriate that his Twitter icon is a baby.

It should be a corncob.

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

FlamingLiberal posted:

I think there have been reports that part of the reason he wants to announce sooner is that he believes it will help him with his legal troubles, yes.
That would be sound legal advice. Nothing the Democrats are willing to do will keep him off the ballot. And then it's just bluster until he gets the pardon power back.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Velocity Raptor posted:

Follow up from yesterday. Looks like the FBI identified and interviewed a suspect they believe was involved with the threats. He admitted that he hates Jewish people and that he was very angry, but he totally wasn't going to actually do anything, guys.

I'm honestly impressed how quickly the FBI tracked someone down in relation to this, regardless of the suspects intentions. However, I hope this isn't the start of other extremists making similar threats.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/03/us/fbi-newark-threat-to-synagogues/index.html

(bolding mine)

Given the FBIs history with rogue bombers in America, it wouldn't surprise me if they had either one or both hands behind the scenes of the guy making the threat. Hence why they found him so quickly.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

FlamingLiberal posted:

I think there have been reports that part of the reason he wants to announce sooner is that he believes it will help him with his legal troubles, yes

Supplement to this, there is further speculation that he was forced to wait until after the midterms because the GOP was footing his legal bills, and threatened to stop if he announced his bid before the midterms for fear that Trump being Trump would spoil any image the GOP was trying to portray.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Kalli posted:

It's okay, Elon has a plan, and it's.... crying about the woke mob

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

This is indistinguishable from a Trump tweet.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Sir Lemming posted:

This is indistinguishable from a Trump tweet.

Too many words to explain the problem. Trump is much better about quickly defining what he wants to rail against.

But you can tell Elon has been studying Trump tweets, trying to capture that mojo.

Or as another person put it...

https://twitter.com/barry/status/1588244210893086721

I really didn't know this distinction was a thing.

https://twitter.com/Arr/status/1588020105136349184

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
Can we please have a thread dedicated to Elon buying Twitter?

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Automata 10 Pack posted:

Can we please have a thread dedicated to Elon buying Twitter?

I think it has mainly been going to the Tech Nightmares thread. Do you think it needs a standalone?

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Click on the Elon tweet for an lol

It has been fact-checked by Twitter

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

Eric Cantonese posted:

I think it has mainly been going to the Tech Nightmares thread. Do you think it needs a standalone?
It's taking up a large part of this discussion in this thread, and if it's taking up a large part of the discussion in the other thread, then yeah, as dumb as we all say Twitter is it's obviously important enough to us that we really want to talk about it a whole lot.

And... y'know... The world's burning, there's many things to talk about, and the Elon discussion is pretty one note.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Found this today just randomly re: Elonk and it made me lol

https://twitter.com/fyrescotch/status/1588314179320287233

https://twitter.com/Ballaban/status/1533208531670863872

He mocked a classmate in school whose father had recently committed suicide and the kid pushed him down a flight of stairs and landed his rear end in the hospital, and his father (the owner of the apartheid blood emerald mine and the one who impregnated his step-daughter multiple times) went "Ehhh, my son totally deserved it. He's a little poo poo."

Sir John Falstaff
Apr 13, 2010

Sir Lemming posted:

This is indistinguishable from a Trump tweet.

Technically still distinguishable, but just wait a few days and someone will be able to pay $8 to make sure it's indistinguishable.

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep

Sir Lemming posted:

This is indistinguishable from a Trump tweet.

Totally unfair!

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Sir Lemming posted:

This is indistinguishable from a Trump tweet.

https://twitter.com/tobymorton/status/1588551962881978368/photo/2

He drat near plagarized a Trump parody tweet :laffo:

Circutron
Apr 29, 2006
We are confident that the Islamic logic, culture, and discourse can prove their superiority in all fields over all schools of thought and theories.

skylined! posted:

Click on the Elon tweet for an lol

It has been fact-checked by Twitter

https://twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1588588885378236416

New management's going well.

Also, I second the idea of creating a Twitter-specific thread. With election time coming up, it might be a good way to keep this place a bit less cramped with "Elonk do a post".

Circutron fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Nov 4, 2022

small butter
Oct 8, 2011

Kalli posted:

It's okay, Elon has a plan, and it's.... crying about the woke mob

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

I just watched this tweet go from being flagged by Twitter, to becoming unavailable, to coming back without the notice from Twitter.

What a piece of poo poo. Probably starting yelling at his employees when the tweet was flagged like Trump.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005


It's fake

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Automata 10 Pack posted:

Can we please have a thread dedicated to Elon buying Twitter?

I made one for social media companies in general, to cover what's going on with Twitter as well as Facebook (Meta's stock price is plummeting).

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4016726

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


people can't post fake and misleading info on Twitter, get real. :rolleyes:

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

I'll have you know that that no longer matters on Twitter, so gently caress you, it's as real as you want it to be now baby :buddy:

Elon Musk spent $44 billion to sit around and plagiarize Trump parody accounts for content, spread the word far.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
I for one think Elomg is very smart for recognizing that the killer app for twitter is Volksverhetzung.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Circutron posted:

https://twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1588588885378236416

New management's going well.

Also, I second the idea of creating a Twitter-specific thread. With election time coming up, it might be a good way to keep this place a bit less cramped with "Elonk do a post".
For real. I love me some elong, but not this much

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

Circutron posted:


Also, I second the idea of creating a Twitter-specific thread. With election time coming up, it might be a good way to keep this place a bit less cramped with "Elonk do a post".

As entertaining as the Twitter ordeal it is, it's kind of disheartening to see so little discussion about the GOP's likely legislative takeover.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Fart Amplifier posted:

As entertaining as the Twitter ordeal it is, it's kind of disheartening to see so little discussion about the GOP's likely legislative takeover.

It goes unnoticed because it’s usually a slow acting poison, at least at the federal level. The effects become most visible when an R president Cramers in to join them.

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

Fart Amplifier posted:

As entertaining as the Twitter ordeal it is, it's kind of disheartening to see so little discussion about the GOP's likely legislative takeover.

It's so close to the election, with a ton of people voting early, so there's not really much to discuss until the results are in.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Twincityhacker posted:

It's so close to the election, with a ton of people voting early, so there's not really much to discuss until the results are in.

And polls are basically a big confused shrug so just get out and canvass/phone bank.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Fart Amplifier posted:

As entertaining as the Twitter ordeal it is, it's kind of disheartening to see so little discussion about the GOP's likely legislative takeover.

congress is going to go from being incapable of passing laws for fear it might offend the republican base to being incapable of passing laws for fear it might offend the republican base.

in a world where the democratic trifecta had been an engine for change on behalf of the democratic party's agenda this would be a lot more apocalyptic, but let's be honest here: democratic leadership is going to be very, very happy when it has an explanation for why it's doing nothing to protect abortion rights better than 'sorry we don't want to lol'

fabiopenz
Jun 22, 2015

Fart Amplifier posted:

As entertaining as the Twitter ordeal it is, it's kind of disheartening to see so little discussion about the GOP's likely legislative takeover.

Until it actually happens and we know the details all discussion would consist of freaking out over hypotheticals.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

congress is going to go from being incapable of passing laws for fear it might offend the republican base to being incapable of passing laws for fear it might offend the republican base.

in a world where the democratic trifecta had been an engine for change on behalf of the democratic party's agenda this would be a lot more apocalyptic, but let's be honest here: democratic leadership is going to be very, very happy when it has an explanation for why it's doing nothing to protect abortion rights better than 'sorry we don't want to lol'

I assume you're referring both to the number of democrats that aren't fully pro choice (without compromise) and having abortion to fundraiser and campaign on.

But before anybody else freaks about that last bit, would it be fair to say a significant amount may want to but can't because our systems and electorate are crazy town bananas hosed.

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Meatball posted:

If he restores moderation to please advertisers, he'll piss off the chuds and his fan boys, who want to be able to be horrible shitheads and post slurs (and undoubtedly porn too).

If he reduces the moderation, everyone including advertisers will leave as it becomes a morass of hate speech, facism and porn, like every other unmoderated space on the internet.

I'm pushing back the implication that it's somehow fash to like seeing boobs and dongs.

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ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



I honestly think that the democrats in general want to continue the status quo regardless of how pervasive poverty, food insecurity, and death through lack of healthcare. They mostly just want to make slight tweaks around the edges. Most of the time it seems like there are a few democrats that are truly inspiring like Katy Porter or Cori Bush doing things to show solidarity with the average american, but then you have people like Manchin or Tester that are completely owned by corporations.

I don't think how undemocratic our government is tenable for much longer with the income inequality, the quality of the jobs/pay and benefits, and the pisspoor cost of living adjustments in entitlements. Something has to give soon and I am seeing these things basically allowing the right to radicalize people that are truly hurting.

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