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Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!
The Left Edge of the Possible: CJR profiles The American Prospect

A staggering percentage of my effort posts are either sourced from or summarizing The Prospect and I've been pretty clear in my admiration of David Dayen and what he's been able to do during his time there. Columbia Journalism Review profiles his work and goes deep into the history of the magazine that was previously best known as Kuttner, Starr, and Reich's directionless answer to The Nation and The New Republic. Or for the bloggers it spawned:

quote:

Not long after the magazine debuted, two of its cofounders were drafted into high-profile roles in the Clinton administration: Starr helped formulate Clinton’s ill-fated healthcare proposal, while Reich was appointed secretary of labor and became one of Clinton’s closest advisers. In later years the Prospect ran a group blog, Tapped, which was an important node in the progressive blogosphere of the aughts and launched the careers of Ezra Klein, Matthew Yglesias, Dana Goldstein, Adam Serwer, and Jamelle Bouie, among others.

The column is as masturbatory as you'd expect, but I do find it interesting that Dayen appears to have been accurate in his assessment when taking over the magazine:

quote:

Dayen told me that he took the Prospect job because it offered an opportunity to do something that other progressive magazines weren’t
[...]
By contrast, Dayen envisioned the Prospect as a publication that “talks about power in Washington, that talks about power in the corporate boardroom, and that gets to the bottom of it for our readers, so they can understand what’s happening, why it’s happening, who’s doing it, and how that power can be brought back to the people.”
[...]
More to the point, he said, he thinks of himself as a journalist who believes “we need government mechanisms to remedy the unsustainable inequality in this country that threatens social unrest.” He acknowledged that there will always be something irreducibly ideological about the Prospect, but said “it’s not like, on a scale of one to ten on the left spectrum, we are an eight-point-six.” What interests him far more is figuring out, concretely, which forces, people, and policies are keeping the government and the economy from functioning the way he believes they should. He is particularly insistent that the implementation of policies—the unglamorous bureaucratic wrangling that happens after bills are signed into law—deserves as much attention as the legislative drama that leads to enactment.“A lot of what we do is about just sort of making things work better,
It's a damning indictment of lib and left press that he is, largely, correct (becuase it's desperately boring work when it's much easier to get traffic by claiming Trump is immune to prosecution or the Whitmer plot was actually economic anxiety). The three recent(ish), relevant(ish) projects that best show his vision:

The Day One Agenda is still probably the cornerstone of Dayen's time in charge, and one of the most impactful works of activist journalism in a decade. How we broke the supply chain does a better job of explaining inflation than the Fed or a thousand wonks, and he's one of the only writers who kept his eye on the ball well enough to explain how the Inflation Reduction Act came to pass -- with a memory longer than the past couple months.

If you're someone who likes to know the "why" behind successes and failures and would like it answered without being prefaced by "The reason it's not Biden's fault is", I can't recommend their work enough. Even (and especially) when I disagree.

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PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

JazzFlight posted:

He keeps tweeting that it's low, but it's been creeping up in my area the past few weeks, so it's a bit of a "don't trust your lying eyes" situation?

Prices have started dropping again in the last week or so.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The comedy theory that Elon is speedrunning the Lowtax business model is becoming more true by the day. He just announced that if your account is banned from Twitter, then you can buy it back for $8.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589450301916213248
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589451026981335040
Sorry, it's a bit tangential to the thread, but I thought about this post when I saw this:
https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589796702843998208?s=20&t=427Gmx6wUWdNf0bgS9TGBA

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
$10 to tweet, $10 to get back in if you get suspended. $5 to change your display name. $10 to change someone else's display name. Then just keep on following the taxman's example

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Musk is essentially just Lowtax with money

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
Well that guarantees Goldbelly's bottom line for quite a while, I'd guess.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Well that guarantees Goldbelly's bottom line for quite a while, I'd guess.

lowtax spawned an industry of overpriced cookies and that's how we got crumbl.

Which, btw, is not worth it and way to doughy.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Jaxyon posted:

lowtax spawned an industry of overpriced cookies and that's how we got crumbl.

Which, btw, is not worth it and way to doughy.
Yeah my wife likes those but I am not a fan, they do seem too doughy

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

FlamingLiberal posted:

Musk is essentially just Lowtax with money

except SA was actually profitable even with Lowtax at the helm (he just claimed it wasn't so he could get cookie money)

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

Bold of them to LP Dangan Ronpa on Twitter I guess.

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


FlamingLiberal posted:

Yeah my wife likes those but I am not a fan, they do seem too doughy

As a doughy cookie enjoyer, they are heavenly to me

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

The Chad Jihad posted:

As a doughy cookie enjoyer, they are heavenly to me

OK, but how do you like your cookies?

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


haveblue posted:

OK, but how do you like your cookies?

The Chad Jihad fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Nov 8, 2022

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



I guarantee Trump believes that there is some sort of legal forcefield you get when you are a presidential candidate.

One thing I hope happens is we get an accounting of how the money donated to the Trump campaign after 2020 was spent. I would find that absolutely hilarious.

I bet there is a line item for hookers that has a funny name and the amount spent on BigMacs is going to be astounding.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
So what's the chance Trump took a bunch of classified dirt on DeSantis with him as he left office?

https://twitter.com/GabbyOrr_/status/1590069212839825408?s=20&t=jK9qN1F6fdodAwrhGHf51Q

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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skylined! posted:

So what's the chance Trump took a bunch of classified dirt on DeSantis with him as he left office?

https://twitter.com/GabbyOrr_/status/1590069212839825408?s=20&t=jK9qN1F6fdodAwrhGHf51Q
It's pretty likely

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Speaking of which

https://twitter.com/freedlander/status/1590105928405114880?s=20&t=OWL299vu37Et9dLwZQkvEQ

That's more than I would have expected.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

That's a joke because that's what Trump did with Stormy Daniels.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I thought that sounded familiar, but there have been so many Trump scandals I totally forgot

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

That's a joke because that's what Trump did with Stormy Daniels.

I was going to ask if Trump and DeSantis visit the same porn stars when they are cheating on their wives?

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Madkal posted:

I was going to ask if Trump and DeSantis visit the same porn stars when they are cheating on their wives?

Buddy, they took advantage of the 2-for-1 special!

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Isn't it pretty well known that DeSantis benefited the most (besides Trump) from the Podesta hack?

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003


It's fake.

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Why do we need any inside dish on DeSantis like what are they going to drop on us, that he's a massively unpleasant pervy loser who lives in the fascism of his own head? Shocker

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Staluigi posted:

Why do we need any inside dish on DeSantis like what are they going to drop on us, that he's a massively unpleasant pervy loser who lives in the fascism of his own head? Shocker

It'd be interesting as far as its effect on Republican infighting and whether Trump is viable in 2024.

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
The only "dirt" I can see Trump having on DeSantis that would actually be effective is if DeSantis did something kind to someone. Like if he rescued a Trans persons kitten or something. If Trump's dirt is some awful racist or rapist type poo poo that's just going to boost DeSantis chances of winning the GOP primary.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I'm not thrilled about tonight's inevitable GOP blowout.

What worries me more, though, is that it's going to be parlayed into a self justifying stance that the new election laws and all the bullshit they got up to are proof that "this time it wasn't stolen" and this time we won. See what happens when we rin poo poo FAIR? I mean, they're gonna do that anyway but it's going to be, to many, the old magic rock that keeps the tigers away rather than just, you know, the fact that they actually won the elections.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


skylined! posted:

So what's the chance Trump took a bunch of classified dirt on DeSantis with him as he left office?

https://twitter.com/GabbyOrr_/status/1590069212839825408?s=20&t=jK9qN1F6fdodAwrhGHf51Q


A 747 and a 757 are VERY different aircraft. He has the latter.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
So...like I don't follow DeSantis, but hearing about his insane donations and voter adds just now he's totally stealing that election, isn't he?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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SpeakSlow posted:

So...like I don't follow DeSantis, but hearing about his insane donations and voter adds just now he's totally stealing that election, isn't he?
No, he's like Trump level popular with the GOP base and Dems are a joke of a party here

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005





The article or Trump's theoretical claims? Because I don't think Trump is in a hurry to exactly check the veracity of something if it helps him in any way.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

ReidRansom posted:

A 747 and a 757 are VERY different aircraft. He has the latter.

Is trump's 757 even operational? Last I heard it was down an engine and mouldering away at some airfield in new jersey

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



charlie crist lost....Im so freaking surprised. He has lost as a republican, a democrat, and an independent. He will probably run under the libertarian party next time. I mean he already has a hat trick of losing might as well go the distance.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

ManBoyChef posted:

charlie crist lost....Im so freaking surprised. He has lost as a republican, a democrat, and an independent. He will probably run under the libertarian party next time. I mean he already has a hat trick of losing might as well go the distance.

Little-known fact: actually managing to lose a race as the nominee of every major and at least three minor parties results in a buffer underflow and your immediate installation as God-Emperor of America.

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

Quorum posted:

Little-known fact: actually managing to lose a race as the nominee of every major and at least three minor parties results in a buffer underflow and your immediate installation as God-Emperor of America.

Do you still turn into a sandworm?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Bel Shazar posted:

Do you still turn into a sandworm?

It’s Florida, so you turn into a gator

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
https://twitter.com/JCColtin/status/1590173922410233856

This is supposedly good news for Maloney? Weird.

Then again, should any DNCC be in trouble? Ugh.

Sub Par
Jul 18, 2001


Dinosaur Gum

rscott posted:

Is trump's 757 even operational? Last I heard it was down an engine and mouldering away at some airfield in new jersey

It was recently put back into service.

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
THE SPEECH SUPPRESSOR


Remember: it's "antisemitic" to protest genocide as long as the targets are brown.

Mooseontheloose posted:

Did Joe Biden try the gas price low button? Maybe he should try that.

Florida instituted a state gas tax holiday that expired on October 31. I wonder how many extra votes Ron got in the polls due to Florida voters' demonstrable abject idiocy and subsequent blaming of gas prices on Joe Biden.

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Old Surly
Dec 8, 2004

and all of your troubles are solved and gone

Sub Par posted:

It was recently put back into service.

All those donations for FREEDOM doing their job

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