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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Yes 420 4.43%
No 69 0.73%
Goku 9001 94.85%
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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

MikeJF posted:

Right now Apple and Google are publicly ignoring musk but if they get forced to respond to why they'd look at dropping twitter, "They fired the anti-child-porn team" is a pretty slam dunk indisputable reason in seven words.

Well a lot of that is the horrible right wingers in power are deliberately doing everything they can to destroy the healthcare system in general over there because they want to privatise it and make it american-style so the whole system is deliberately hosed.

It's hard to overstate how bad it's gotten. Basically, there isn't really a health service anymore unless you have cancer or a life threatening injury, and even then with the latter you might be poo poo out of luck.

We're basically one step away from having to totally fend for ourselves. The NHS is over.

EDIT which is, as you say, all according to keikaku. Soon we'll be able to have ambulances again, but if you want one in the next two hours then you'll have to apply for the premium plan at Ambulances4U, etc...

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UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004
*fires 95% of company*

“Why is it so empty in here?!?”

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012


Good luck and ineffective counterterrorism will come to u, but only if u post 'thank mr biden' in this thread

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006






lol at Mr. Cool "30 Hours" Sunglasses

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022
Famously dense and intense: people pondering difficult computer problems quietly at their desks, drawing diagrams and doing research before making a two character code fix

I’ve never tried writing code while Elon stans have their dicks out and their sweat is flying off their tattered t shirts but maybe it’s actually a great environment to think hard and understand tricky ideas.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Dense and intense just like my 9” hog leg

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



A few pages back, but I was curious about those guns. Really, about *that* gun - I know the other is a replica Flintlock, may or may not be functional.

Turns out, it's a prop of a gun from the video game Deus Ex (and apparently in Team Fortress 2, as well):
https://freerangeamerican.us/elon-musk-guns-bedside-table/

Viscous Soda
Apr 24, 2004


From a bit farther down in that thread:
https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1597583303036444672

So... from the sounds of things the best path to success in Twitter right now is to write horribly bloated code, then go back next review and "revise" the code by deleting the bloat. Bam, a ton of code both written and deleted.

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021
THEORY: Due to his obsession with stock market scams, Elon watched Boiler Room and other Wallstreet hedge-fund-lie-cheat-and-steal movies--where packed rooms full of young screaming frat boys are consistently dunking on normies and being alpha males--and thought "maybe this is how we push Twitter to extreme success," except all the coders the opposite kind of people as Wallstreet frat guys and many of them already have families and mortgages to pay.

Elon wants the comradery and competition of a high-stakes boiler room situation (and he wants to be the top dog slamming high-fives and everyone looking up to him), but doesn't understand what engineers even do or how they tend to work.

Mindless
Dec 7, 2001

WANTED: INFO on Mindless. Anything! Everything! Send to
Pillbug
I kick on some tunes and rip off my shirt. "Let's get coding."

*Turbo Killer synth sting*

Shazback
Jan 26, 2013
Is it wrong that I imagine Elon randomly running around the 10th floor shooting engineers at random with a nerf gun, quoting monty python lines and forcing them to follow him to the ping-pong table for a quick match?

"EPIC, BRO!" he shouts and turns around seeking adulation while the developer reaches under the cramped desk to pick up his glasses.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

I don't know how real this is but I could absolutely see Elmo firing "Gen Z's" because they didn't know what the acronym VHS means.

It's pretty clearly not real, and yikes at the amount of posts/rts that account is making.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
He could have bought a small trading concern and played out those dreams. It would have been cheaper.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

I like how he tweeted "why not done?" to Tim Apple, as if the CEO of one of the world's largest corporations is going to drop everything and investigate.

I'm 99% sure Tim Cook has never touched the twitter poop and that account is run by someone from Apple's social media engagement team, who is paid and trusted to remain professional and on-brand. Because setting general company strategies and messaging, then delegating it out to people you trust to deliver is what leaders do.

Also something broke in the trending section earlier that resulted in



Clicking JUST ANNOUNCED brought up a bunch of unrelated press releases for various things, while JOB VACANCY resulted in a stream of tweets from recruitment agencies for a variety of unrelated jobs.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
He could have spent a fraction of the money on a company that just builds assets and pays actors to put up with whatever bullshit fantasies he wants 24/7. This week he's a tech boom genius riding the startup days at paypal, next month he's an oil tycoon in the 1800s, the month after that he's the captain of an intergalactic colony ship mid-voyage

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
I can't stress that enough, he has the money to pull off a 24/7 holodeck level experience for the rest of his life, and THIS is what he does

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005



When I go to the twitter website it has the US election from weeks ago in the trending section. Live updates!!

King Carnivore
Dec 17, 2007

Graveyard Disciple

Darchangel posted:

A few pages back, but I was curious about those guns. Really, about *that* gun - I know the other is a replica Flintlock, may or may not be functional.

The flintlock has been found and it’s an extremely cheap, non-functioning replica with the lock cast as a single piece of pot metal. You can’t even cock the hammer on it. According to reviews of the replica, the top of the presentation case is made of flimsy cardboard.

The “cool” items on his table are garbage, more appropriate to the room of a teenage boy than the world’s richest man or whatever. The dude could have bought a authentic Revolutionary War flintlock, a piece of history, but instead he has poo poo straight out of Bradford Exchange and is posting about it like he’s a cool guy.

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

From now on, anyone at Twitter HQ who doesn't have binary projected on their face at all times will be fired immediately.

King Carnivore
Dec 17, 2007

Graveyard Disciple
You can buy your very own MuskLock™ at I LOVE SWORDS DOT COM.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

goatface posted:

People are still ranting about the boosters mainly being given to the old and vulnerable being part of the grand conspiracy.

What kind of conspiracy is most interested in exploiting the physically infirm?

For-profit health care

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

goatface posted:

People are still ranting about the boosters mainly being given to the old and vulnerable being part of the grand conspiracy.

The party with more vaccinated people had better than expected results! Coincidence, I think not!

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
It's not a conspiracy if you do your evil in public.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Clyde Radcliffe posted:

I like how he tweeted "why not done?" to Tim Apple, as if the CEO of one of the world's largest corporations is going to drop everything and investigate.

I'm 99% sure Tim Cook has never touched the twitter poop and that account is run by someone from Apple's social media engagement team, who is paid and trusted to remain professional and on-brand. Because setting general company strategies and messaging, then delegating it out to people you trust to deliver is what leaders do.

Also something broke in the trending section earlier that resulted in



Clicking JUST ANNOUNCED brought up a bunch of unrelated press releases for various things, while JOB VACANCY resulted in a stream of tweets from recruitment agencies for a variety of unrelated jobs.

Oh no, what did those Derry girls do this time?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



There have been tons of answers to the "why is MORE CODE stupid" question but I'll toss mine in.

zedprime posted:

It's hard to make physical analogy and this is what breaks MBAs brains. Code is a thing, why not done after 16 mythical manweeks etc.

There's process analogies but they might be even more obscure. This is taking a concert orchestra and telling the concert pianists and the gaffers that they better start writing music. They can, the pianist is classically trained in music theory and the gaffers has been playing guitar since he was 8. But the whole thing starts falling apart once the pianist loses the time to practice and the gaffers dont get a chance to set up the sound system that pipes everything back in the teams ears that lets everyone hear if they're playing true at that moment. And all for nothing cause the producer is just going to grab a bunch of sheet music from GitHub and the conductor will just arrange it in a pleasing way and we can either throw out the stupid contributions or incorporate them and make everything worse.

This is one of my favorite responses. Mine though would be:

Code is something you write when you are BUILDING an application. And Twitter, the application, is BUILT. It's done. There is no need to :airquote: write more code :airquote:

Now, I'm being glib. Nothing is ever "done". Twitter no doubt has a dozen massive new skunkworks projects being built by crack research teams in preparation for rollout next year (or at least it did). But Twitter, the main application, is mature, it's stable, and it has not had any major changes that any user would notice in years.

There are little tweaks going on all the time. There are infrastructural improvements. They're always tackling scaling issues and availability. They're always adding more backend tools to help with content moderation and Covid misinformation flagging and all that kind of stuff. But the vast majority of Twitter developers, I would wager, spend (/spent) the vast majority of their time fixing bugs. Not writing new features, not building vast new edifices of the application. All those developers' time is spent researching, testing, reproducing issues, reducing tech debt, consolidating, automating. There is no need to write code.

The phrase "WHAT IS CODE" has been the subject of a lot of articles and books and thinkpieces over the past ten years, but my answer to that question is: Code is automation.

Anything Twitter does, a human could do, given enough time. If you wrote a search query or a user's @name or "Please like this post" on a note card and mailed it to Twitter HQ, some nerd could physically look up the data in a database, type out the answer, manually code up an HTML page, scrawl updated data into the database with a pencil and send the result to you on a floppy disk, and you could load it up on your computer and it would look exactly like Twitter. It would just take weeks to do. The purpose of code is to make a computer do all that stuff for us instead of having humans do it, physically, painfully, tediously, slowly, and error-pronely. Code is just the way in which we instruct computers to do prescribed tasks for us, in milliseconds.

And there is only so much automation that needs to be done when you are building an app like Twitter.

All the major features are built already. They're there. The primary functionality of Twitter, as an app, as a service, are all as automated as they can get. Writing more code does not automate anything that is not already automated. You can improve existing features or performance, sure. You can pay down tech debt, cleaning up sloppy code, fixing bugs. You can write unit tests, which DOES involve writing code, whose purpose is to automate the process of finding bugs in other code, i.e. automation of automation. But whatever Elon Musk thinks his engineers need to be writing in order to "ship code" is absolutely, completely irrelevant to Twitter's current needs as a company and as a platform and as an application.

Twitter's product is uptime. It's functionality. It is not CODE. Code is a means to an end. And they already HAVE the end.

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

kazil posted:

Oh no, what did those Derry girls do this time?

A new season I hope

roffles
Dec 25, 2004

Sentient Data posted:

He could have spent a fraction of the money on a company that just builds assets and pays actors to put up with whatever bullshit fantasies he wants 24/7. This week he's a tech boom genius riding the startup days at paypal, next month he's an oil tycoon in the 1800s, the month after that he's the captain of an intergalactic colony ship mid-voyage

I’m surprised the higher ups at Tesla/spacex haven’t called the Twitter devs to suggest building this type of Twitter hugbox/quarantine zone for Elon just so he stops loving up everyone’s stock price lol

Vire
Nov 4, 2005

Like a Bosh

roffles posted:

I’m surprised the higher ups at Tesla/spacex haven’t called the Twitter devs to suggest building this type of Twitter hugbox/quarantine zone for Elon just so he stops loving up everyone’s stock price lol

Shadow ban elon with only bots replying weird creepy slavish bootlicking

Gros Tarla
Dec 30, 2008

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/28/tesla-drivers-elon-musk-twitter-road-rage

Are Tesla owners just developing a persecution complex or do people really hate Musk now? Tough to say.

Eh, the road rage is probably real, but it's probably not about Musk. I've driven a Model 3 before selling it because it was a loving lemon and then a Bolt for a little while and some assholes (mostly in pickups) really appear to feel like EVs are a threat to their identity or some poo poo to the point where they will sometimes randomly cut you off and flip you off.

Would happen often enough that you definitely notice it. And it stopped happening once I went back to an ICE car.

wedgie deliverer
Oct 2, 2010

I've been cutoff by in Teslas in heavy traffic whose drivers clearly did not have their hands on the steering wheel. I avoid them on my commute because I feel they are erratic and have irresponsible owners.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Data Graham posted:

There have been tons of answers to the "why is MORE CODE stupid" question but I'll toss mine in.

This is one of my favorite responses. Mine though would be:

Code is something you write when you are BUILDING an application. And Twitter, the application, is BUILT. It's done. There is no need to :airquote: write more code :airquote:

Now, I'm being glib. Nothing is ever "done". Twitter no doubt has a dozen massive new skunkworks projects being built by crack research teams in preparation for rollout next year (or at least it did). But Twitter, the main application, is mature, it's stable, and it has not had any major changes that any user would notice in years.

There are little tweaks going on all the time. There are infrastructural improvements. They're always tackling scaling issues and availability. They're always adding more backend tools to help with content moderation and Covid misinformation flagging and all that kind of stuff. But the vast majority of Twitter developers, I would wager, spend (/spent) the vast majority of their time fixing bugs. Not writing new features, not building vast new edifices of the application. All those developers' time is spent researching, testing, reproducing issues, reducing tech debt, consolidating, automating. There is no need to write code.

The phrase "WHAT IS CODE" has been the subject of a lot of articles and books and thinkpieces over the past ten years, but my answer to that question is: Code is automation.

Anything Twitter does, a human could do, given enough time. If you wrote a search query or a user's @name or "Please like this post" on a note card and mailed it to Twitter HQ, some nerd could physically look up the data in a database, type out the answer, manually code up an HTML page, scrawl updated data into the database with a pencil and send the result to you on a floppy disk, and you could load it up on your computer and it would look exactly like Twitter. It would just take weeks to do. The purpose of code is to make a computer do all that stuff for us instead of having humans do it, physically, painfully, tediously, slowly, and error-pronely. Code is just the way in which we instruct computers to do prescribed tasks for us, in milliseconds.

And there is only so much automation that needs to be done when you are building an app like Twitter.

All the major features are built already. They're there. The primary functionality of Twitter, as an app, as a service, are all as automated as they can get. Writing more code does not automate anything that is not already automated. You can improve existing features or performance, sure. You can pay down tech debt, cleaning up sloppy code, fixing bugs. You can write unit tests, which DOES involve writing code, whose purpose is to automate the process of finding bugs in other code, i.e. automation of automation. But whatever Elon Musk thinks his engineers need to be writing in order to "ship code" is absolutely, completely irrelevant to Twitter's current needs as a company and as a platform and as an application.

Twitter's product is uptime. It's functionality. It is not CODE. Code is a means to an end. And they already HAVE the end.

All this is wrong code works exactly like a level up system in a video game and once you've grinded out enough of it it unlocks a new tech level.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016


Elon Musk founded the company (X.com in 1999) that would eventually become paypal. This is one of the very few decent accomplishments he made where he deserves some credit, as opposed to just being the bag of money who provided financing. He had at least one legit good idea in his life, a lot of people didn't think it would work but it did. It very quickly became successful within months, so good job, Elon. However, before even one year passed after founding the company, the board didn't like some of Musk's decisions, thought he was not cut out to be a CEO, and replaced him.

X merged with another competitor to become even bigger and more successful, and the new company brought Musk back in as CEO in 2000 so he actually got a 2nd chance to run the company he founded. He then reportedly made technological decisions over the fierce objections of many engineers who thought his choices were stupid, and his decisions did in fact turn out to be very bad. Once again Elon did not even last a full year before the board removed him for someone who was not a moron. The new CEO listened to the advice of his engineers, it was renamed to Paypal, and the rest is history.

Freudian slippers
Jun 23, 2009
US Goon shocked and appalled to find that world is a dirty, unjust place

kazil posted:

Oh no, what did those Derry girls do this time?

They got a nice shout-out from Martin Scorsese :)

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

kazil posted:

Oh no, what did those Derry girls do this time?

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
Vox poopie, vox dookie
https://twitter.com/bestofdyingtwit/status/1597663321930420226
Strangely enough, and I know this might surprise you, Tim Cook hasn't responded yet. It's like he doesn't even respect the democratic process of the Twitter poll.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Doctor Butts posted:

Reporter: "DeSantis, it sounds like you want the government to interfere with the free market. Why do you think companies shouldn't be allowed to make rules on what's allowed in their store? Why do you hate capitalism? Are you a commie?"

I really like this response. Highlights the unbelievable hypocrisy of the Right.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Barry Foster posted:

It's hard to overstate how bad it's gotten. Basically, there isn't really a health service anymore unless you have cancer or a life threatening injury, and even then with the latter you might be poo poo out of luck.

We're basically one step away from having to totally fend for ourselves. The NHS is over.

EDIT which is, as you say, all according to keikaku. Soon we'll be able to have ambulances again, but if you want one in the next two hours then you'll have to apply for the premium plan at Ambulances4U, etc...

I am the American crab at the bottom of the crab bucket who is sad that a fellow crab who almost made it back into the ocean was caught and thrown back in here with me.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Steadiman posted:

Vox poopie, vox dookie
https://twitter.com/bestofdyingtwit/status/1597663321930420226
Strangely enough, and I know this might surprise you, Tim Cook hasn't responded yet. It's like he doesn't even respect the democratic process of the Twitter poll.

Or maybe they've already released it and since there weren't any "censorship actions", nobody noticed...

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:




If it wasn't for this scene the show would be one of the greats.

Like Derry Girls.

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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


King Carnivore posted:

The flintlock has been found and it’s an extremely cheap, non-functioning replica with the lock cast as a single piece of pot metal. You can’t even cock the hammer on it. According to reviews of the replica, the top of the presentation case is made of flimsy cardboard.

The “cool” items on his table are garbage, more appropriate to the room of a teenage boy than the world’s richest man or whatever. The dude could have bought a authentic Revolutionary War flintlock, a piece of history, but instead he has poo poo straight out of Bradford Exchange and is posting about it like he’s a cool guy.

Man, that's just pathetic. At least get a working flintlock and learn to fire it.

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