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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


big dong wanter posted:

That's actually an AMP Satsuma, beloved first cars of 90s Finnish dirtbags

LOL, I see what you did there.

I didn't zoom in to see the Datsun emblem.
It's a Datsun 100/Nissan Cherry - called the Satsuma AMP in My Summer Car: https://my-summer-car.fandom.com/wiki/Satsuma_AMP

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Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.
I crashed one of those when I was twelve. Me and my cousin had a great two days with that 100A, as long as it lasted.

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll

These exist?! I must have one :swoon:

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

WTFBEES posted:

$5 says that's where the batteries go for the hybrid version, similar to how they did in the Volt.

I also believe the gas models have two trunks because the front one will get used or at least encroached on by the front axle motor.

ding ding ding

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42096801/corvette-brand-2025/



Corvette EV prototype photo, supposedly. Also GM is launching a sub-brand of EV sedan and crossover suv, ala Cayanne and Panamera :confused: or I guess like the Mustang Mach E, which is firmly in the "not awesome" category

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Hadlock posted:

ding ding ding

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42096801/corvette-brand-2025/



Corvette EV prototype photo, supposedly. Also GM is launching a sub-brand of EV sedan and crossover suv, ala Cayanne and Panamera :confused: or I guess like the Mustang Mach E, which is firmly in the "not awesome" category

I dunno, in the modern age, nobody gives a drat about model names, they only care about brands. GM is betting Corvette is a stronger brand than a model, and I honestly can't say they're wrong.

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)
Did everyone get their christmas tree this year?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIJ8BLYpMEZ/

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

It's not orange, and being on a tow truck isn't awesome, but looks to be in rather good condition. My town is a desert for classic cars so I'll take what I can get

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
https://youtu.be/9QHxWuwYrLM?t=906

Time stamped to the appropriate point - Russian dudes with an EV converted Volga, has a dash made with fuckin nixie tubes!



Arc is analog speed, digital speed below that, range on left, batt temp on right.

Franco Caution
Jul 18, 2003

Wicked. Tricksy. False.

Finger Prince posted:

I dunno, in the modern age, nobody gives a drat about model names, they only care about brands. GM is betting Corvette is a stronger brand than a model, and I honestly can't say they're wrong.


If they make a Corvette SUV similar to the X3M Competition, I'll be happy to drive the gently caress out of that.
I'd even wear my old corvette t-shirts while doing so knowing it would bother people.

Franco Caution fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Dec 3, 2022

Joe Mama
May 10, 2008

BuckyDoneGun posted:

https://youtu.be/9QHxWuwYrLM?t=906

Time stamped to the appropriate point - Russian dudes with an EV converted Volga, has a dash made with fuckin nixie tubes!



Arc is analog speed, digital speed below that, range on left, batt temp on right.

This is giving me hard Fallout vibes. Someone needs to do this poo poo with an american 50s-60s "big fin" car.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Hadlock posted:

It's not orange, and being on a tow truck isn't awesome, but looks to be in rather good condition. My town is a desert for classic cars so I'll take what I can get



is it on a flatbed because it's on its way to your house?

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Raluek posted:

is it on a flatbed because it's on its way to your house?

:haibrow:

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010


:krad:

Love forward control vans, and the pipes just seal the deal.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

Franco Caution posted:

If they make a Corvette SUV similar to the X3M Competition, I'll be happy to drive the gently caress out of that.
I'd even wear my old corvette t-shirts while doing so knowing it would bother people.

I don't ever want an SUV, but I had a C5 for 14 years so if they want to make a sedan liftback I'd be happy to replace my Stinger GT when it's over 10 years old. Question though: will the Corvette Wave extend to new models, or remain just for the original sports car?

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

davebo posted:

I don't ever want an SUV, but I had a C5 for 14 years so if they want to make a sedan liftback I'd be happy to replace my Stinger GT when it's over 10 years old. Question though: will the Corvette Wave extend to new models, or remain just for the original sports car?

It will be like the jeep wave, someone not in a Wrangler/"real" vette will wave to a Wrangler/"real" vette and the person in the Wrangler/"real" vette will be 100% accepting and welcoming :)

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
Shane Van Gisbergen celebrating his championship win and farewelling Holden from V8 Supercars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za_GjeOLaLc

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

[ASK] ME ABOUT MY LOVE FOR 1'S
I'm seriously confused why people like SUVs. They drive like bricks trying to figure out which side is right up.

There are like 2 SUVs that qualify for awesome ai poo poo and if one of them isn't a G-Wagon you're wrong.

e; no Jeep product qualifies since the GOD ENGINE 4.0 is dead.

Large Testicles fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Dec 4, 2022

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I do love watching SUVs and trucks flip upside down over nothing in those dash cam videos though. Their entertainment value cannot be underestimated.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


BuckyDoneGun posted:

Shane Van Gisbergen celebrating his championship win and farewelling Holden from V8 Supercars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za_GjeOLaLc

SVG is unstoppable. Good for him and great for Holden. Whoevers in charge of loving up Holden gotta hang hteir head in shame.

Large Testicles posted:

I'm seriously confused why people like SUVs. They drive like bricks trying to figure out which side is right up.

There are like 2 SUVs that qualify for awesome ai poo poo and if one of them isn't a G-Wagon you're wrong.

e; no Jeep product qualifies since the GOD ENGINE 4.0 is dead.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Large Testicles posted:

I'm seriously confused why people like SUVs. They drive like bricks trying to figure out which side is right up.

There are like 2 SUVs that qualify for awesome ai poo poo and if one of them isn't a G-Wagon you're wrong.

e; no Jeep product qualifies since the GOD ENGINE 4.0 is dead.

AMG G-Wagons are used exclusively for dropping your kid off at dance class then driving to the to the plaza get your hair and nails done. Bonus points if it's a Brabus edition.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

Humphreys posted:

Whoevers in charge of loving up Holden gotta hang hteir head in shame.

I think the list is long. Those in the Australian govt who decided to cut subsidies because businesses should stand on their own, while still happily funneling equal amounts to their mining buddies? Local Holden management over the years, GM US management?

I'm honestly not sure of the path they should have taken. I know the European sourced small cars like the Astra and Vectra weren't always the most reliable, but they were a mile better than the awful Daewoo poo poo. They clearly missed the SUV train until the Craptiva - should they have fought for RHD versions of the smaller US SUV products? I'm not so sure they would have fared well. Continued development of AWD versions into the VE and onwards? I've never looked at how they did the Adventura/Crewman, could they have done AWD but normal ride height versions? Developed the VE/VF based Territory competitor they almost did? The exportability of the VE to LHD markets was always a huge advantage Ford never had for their local product. I don't think a new Monaro would have saved them, but hey, halo car? Plus the Coupe 60 looked awesome, imagine if they managed to ship the side pipes.


Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008





There are 0 SUVs in this image. Lotta station wagons though.

Again:

SUV:



Not SUV:



I still miss my 2.0l crossover in the winter, just not as much as I missed my lovely minivan all the loving time.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Large Testicles posted:

I'm seriously confused why people like SUVs. They drive like bricks trying to figure out which side is right up.

There are like 2 SUVs that qualify for awesome ai poo poo and if one of them isn't a G-Wagon you're wrong.

e; no Jeep product qualifies since the GOD ENGINE 4.0 is dead.

Me getting really uncomfortably close to you and whispering: "Land Cruiser~~~~"

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

[ASK] ME ABOUT MY LOVE FOR 1'S

KakerMix posted:

Me getting really uncomfortably close to you and whispering: "Land Cruiser~~~~"

ok, you've found the second

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

BuckyDoneGun posted:

I think the list is long. Those in the Australian govt who decided to cut subsidies because businesses should stand on their own, while still happily funneling equal amounts to their mining buddies? Local Holden management over the years, GM US management?


The actual thing that killed Holden was GM accounting. Holden was making pretty good profits but GM had the idea that they should charge Holden licensing fees for using Holden's own designs. Which sent a lot of money to GM and left Holden to lose money as a result. There were no need for subsidies, GM could have chosen to not leech billions and that is how GM murdered Holden.

Fun fact - Opel was a huge loss maker until the day PSA bought them. Then Opel made a billion the next year. Oh hey you guessed it, GM were also sucking them dry too. Both Oepl and Holden were being used to make the USA operations look healthier than they were.

gently caress GM.

Jonny Nox posted:

There are 0 SUVs in this image. Lotta station wagons though.

There are 0 station wagons in that image

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

Jonny Nox posted:

There are 0 SUVs in this image. Lotta station wagons though.

Everyone should adopt the finnish terminology for clarity. The traditional term is "offroader", this is the kind of vehicle that used to have a significantly lower car tax because the army would confiscate it when the need arises. The modern variant is called "streetoffroader".

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:



There are 0 station wagons in that image

Look, take a Caprice wagon, chop it right above the wheel wells, add about 18 inches of body height and you have....


oh.


yeah I see your point.

edit: but to answer the original question, Crossovers are popular because they look like the car every wishes they drove (either a F-150 or a Land Cruiser) but are actually the car they should be driving (a Sedan)

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 4, 2022

Joe Mama
May 10, 2008

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

gently caress GM.

Good ol' GM doin' GM things. I can't decide which is worse; slowly murdering a brand/model that was great or coming up with a great idea for a new brand/model and just making GBS threads the bed on it.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

gently caress GM.

An evergreen post.

Jonny Nox posted:

Crossovers are popular because they look like the car every wishes they drove (either a F-150 or a Land Cruiser) but are actually the car they should be driving (a Sedan minivan)

:colbert:

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


I am not buying GM again since they force you to sell leases back to GM dealers and force you to buy onstar. gently caress em.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




MrYenko posted:

An evergreen post.

:colbert:
:hmmyes:

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Jonny Nox posted:

edit: but to answer the original question, Crossovers are popular because they look like the car every wishes they drove (either a F-150 or a Land Cruiser) but are actually the car they should be driving (a Sedan)

Crossovers have a lot of undeniable utility value. If you want a school run / station run or shopping trolley there's not much that is actually better for the purpose - they are mostly tall hatchbacks.

The issues start to pile up when you look at the dynamics of a tall on stilts car, the fact most of them are far less able to shove poo poo in like the older original crossovers like a Forester and lose out big time in any real offroad ability compared to those earlier crossovers too but that's more about us who care about such things and not the great amount of car buyers that dont give a fat rip about such things, even if their new shitbox is fundamentally worse than a crossover from 15 years ago

razorscooter
Nov 5, 2008



BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

Oh yeah, def include that in blaming GM management.

Also has the added bonus of reducing tax liability in Australia too! Same trick the tech companies use to avoid paying tax everywhere except Ireland or whatever favourable locale de jour.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
Further:


Nah shove it, corporate dickheads. You don't even offer us anything to buy, apart from theoretically a C8 (haven't seen one) or a hacked up Silverado. We could get a hacked up Camaro too, but almost no one bothered since all the work you had to do moving the steering wheel made it like 20-30% more than a Mustang, so people just bought those instead and they appear to have given up.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


BuckyDoneGun posted:

Further:


Nah shove it, corporate dickheads. You don't even offer us anything to buy, apart from theoretically a C8 (haven't seen one) or a hacked up Silverado. We could get a hacked up Camaro too, but almost no one bothered since all the work you had to do moving the steering wheel made it like 20-30% more than a Mustang, so people just bought those instead and they appear to have given up.

gently caress you Chev.

(as someone who very well might be working for them in the near future...)

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
few things are hilarious as how badly GM doesn't know how to market their products

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7164059018456190254

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Rhyno posted:

few things are hilarious as how badly GM doesn't know how to market their products

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7164059018456190254

GM marketing had a single hit with the “Like a Rock” campaign, and has been a clown car of continuous failure ever since. They are singularly incompetent when attempting to promote anything that doesn’t say “Silverado” on the side.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Further:


Nah shove it, corporate dickheads. You don't even offer us anything to buy, apart from theoretically a C8 (haven't seen one) or a hacked up Silverado. We could get a hacked up Camaro too, but almost no one bothered since all the work you had to do moving the steering wheel made it like 20-30% more than a Mustang, so people just bought those instead and they appear to have given up.

Yep gently caress off forever GM. And they can shove that turd they call a Corvette while they are at it where the sun dont shine.

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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Hadlock posted:

ding ding ding

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42096801/corvette-brand-2025/



Corvette EV prototype photo, supposedly. Also GM is launching a sub-brand of EV sedan and crossover suv, ala Cayanne and Panamera :confused: or I guess like the Mustang Mach E, which is firmly in the "not awesome" category

Yeah, we've covered that in the "Terrible" car thread.

BuckyDoneGun posted:

https://youtu.be/9QHxWuwYrLM?t=906

Time stamped to the appropriate point - Russian dudes with an EV converted Volga, has a dash made with fuckin nixie tubes!



Arc is analog speed, digital speed below that, range on left, batt temp on right.

That's cooooooool. They also appear to have used the lighted hood emblem as a charge indicator, if I'm understanding that right (from context - I know like 5 words in Russian, and two of them are... not polite.)


Joe Mama posted:

Good ol' GM doin' GM things. I can't decide which is worse; slowly murdering a brand/model that was great or coming up with a great idea for a new brand/model and just making GBS threads the bed on it.

They don't even limit it to "foreign" brands, see: Oldsmobile and Pontiac.

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