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Tender Bender posted:I like Mr Negative a lot but I feel he's pretty well balanced because a decent chunk of games have you just noping out because you didn't draw him before t4, or you already had your killer cards like Iron Man in hand. I don't have Magik though which seems like it'd really let him go to work. The thing is, this game heavily rewards high-roll decks, especially ones that hide their equity until the final flip. It doesn't matter if you retreat from four games due to dead draws so long as you hit the nuts often enough to win snaps.
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Skippy McPants posted:The thing is, this game heavily rewards high-roll decks, especially ones that hide their equity until the final flip. It doesn't matter if you retreat from four games due to dead draws so long as you hit the nuts often enough to win snaps. Idk, I just played three Negative games because you inspired me, and was actually lucky enough to draw Negative each time. Two of them I had all my 0 power in opening hand, the Negative cards I drew were alright but didn't let me win, in the fourth one I drew my nuts and on T5 my destroy opponent played Wave, so I could only play one card T6 while they clearly had at least Death and probably She Hulk. I hate this loving game.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 17:25 |
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I love when they think they've got the match in the bag because they managed to Cosmo before I could feed my Bucky to Deathlok or Carnage.
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Tender Bender posted:I like Mr Negative a lot but I feel he's pretty well balanced because a decent chunk of games have you just noping out because you didn't draw him before t4, or you already had your killer cards like Iron Man in hand. I don't have Magik though which seems like it'd really let him go to work. I run Negative with Surfer, Sera and Brood. I can often win without getting Negative in hand. Like an earlier poster said you end up winning more cubes in a long run anyway by snapping intelligently. I just got Magick and I’m excited to slot her in. JackDarko fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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The biggest problem I'm running into is that around rank 80, the ladder turns into nothing but infinite card backs and perfectly tuned decks. At that point the two or three cards I'm missing weigh me down a lot more. Like not having Rogue to punk Dino or Bast to help bad opening hands suck a lot less.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 17:56 |
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I feel like Wave would be fixed if the 4 cost mod applied last. Feels like it should, at least to me
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 18:12 |
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Zodack posted:I feel like Wave would be fixed if the 4 cost mod applied last. Feels like it should, at least to me It absolutely should. The way it interacts with Death and She Hulk is broken in a way most ccg's require you to build an entire deck around, instead of just playing a single card. The fact that it also fucks with your opponent's hand is just icing on the cake.
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Skippy McPants posted:The biggest problem I'm running into is that around rank 80, the ladder turns into nothing but infinite card backs and perfectly tuned decks. At that point the two or three cards I'm missing weigh me down a lot more. Like not having Rogue to punk Dino or Bast to help bad opening hands suck a lot less. I'm finally in the 80s and I'm running into a lot of heralds of Galactus
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 18:21 |
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Tender Bender posted:It absolutely should. The way it interacts with Death and She Hulk is broken in a way most ccg's require you to build an entire deck around, instead of just playing a single card. The fact that it also fucks with your opponent's hand is just icing on the cake. After all the issues that mana acceleration caused in Hearthstone, it boggles my mind that this game has the same problem but only worse. Cost manipulation is the cornerstone of almost every good deck. Wave, Negative, Sera, Death, She-Hulk, etc. Patriot feels like the only remotely "honest" deck in the meta. And next season brings another, which I'm sure won't cause any issues. I guess I shouldn't expect too much since it is a freemium phone game made to hoover up disposable income. It's just kinda funny to see Ben Brode making the same mistakes a decade down the road.
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kaschei posted:If all your cards are uncommon, 61,000 credits can get you: Yes, but the card sustain from doing the Uncommon strategy has me at 101 cards already, and many of them are still un-upgraded because RNGesus gave me one or two pieces of every deck, so it's Weird Garbage Zoo or Faking That I Have The Finisher For The Deck I'm Signalling to get the remainder XP. My powerhouse deck is Iron Man/Spectrum/Onslaught/Ongoing and I just got Scorpion so I'm building a Zoo deck from a few pages back. Plus I bought the season pass because I was at my parents' for Christmas and my folks have dogs, so when they go to bed at 9 I can't leave the bedroom or it sets the dogs off. Skippy McPants posted:It's just kinda funny to see Ben Brode making the same mistakes a decade down the road. I played Magic for over a decade and you get to the point where you can "feel" a particular designer's presence or absence on a set because they do not learn from their previous mistakes. I heard they made changes so that individuals have less influence, but it's funny seeing a designer's 'pet deck' archetype mysteriously appear in every block they work on. Less funny when there's only one main guy I suppose. Shit Fuckasaurus fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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Tom Smykowski posted:I'm finally in the 80s and I'm running into a lot of heralds of Galactus I hit this at 74. Been 70-78 for 2 weeks
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Yeah, the fact that you can run into infinite players so commonly, I started seeing them in the mid-60s, is an issue. Of course, the one thing they don't emulate that Hearthstone got right is siloing off players at the top of the rankings from the rest. They could really use something similar to the Legend rank. Edit: I feel like I'm going to spend a lot of time complaining about this game. The base mechanics are a lot of fun, but there are so many rough edges. And that's not even touching on the microtransactions because that's a fight I gave up on eons ago.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 19:41 |
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It’s funny that I can win 4 or even 5 of 10 matches with random cards I want to level where I only make sure I have a balanced curve to drop a card every turn while my “tuned” as-close-as-meta decks right now don’t even perform better lol. A factor is that I can’t build even 10% of the fun top tier Pool 3 decks because I miss over a dozen crucial cards at CL 1440 (the RNG and system here is simply frustrating), so I just ignore the Rank and Cubes and keep on leveling. Mr.PayDay fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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i think, given the deck size, the singleton nature, and the extremely short best-of-one rounds, this game probably doesn't match up one-to-one with whether or not types of cards are harmful to the game or not compared to how they were in other games. at the very least, there's a lot of combos that just barely work because you need to draw the cards in the exact right order and early enough to go off + that lack of consistency keeps a lot of the potentially broken things from going off more than once in a blue moon
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 20:14 |
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At least Brode did learn that draw + mulligan would be really powerful in this game since it is combo dependent and it is very irritating to see players seemingly have all the tools needed to stall the game until they draw their combo. Doesn’t work here with the hard turn limit thankfully.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 20:24 |
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The locations help even the playing field as well, it feels like. There are some locations, particularly those that affect my deck or force me to mulligan, that are direct counters. I don’t mind losing, especially if I thought I’d win, since I usually learn something from it.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 20:30 |
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My biggest leak, is not snapping in the mid game. I just cant do it mentally. I'm fine at retreating and game outcome prediction. I'm at least of average skill when playing the game itself. I just really hate being the snapper. I climb with great consistency, but have to play an enormous amount to do so.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 21:07 |
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And now I just got a Rogue from the shop. I do not like this system, even though it's favored me. At least in other card games you can spend some money to push through a run of bad luck and unlock the one or two key cards you need to make a deck possible.
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Skippy McPants posted:And now I just got a Rogue from the shop. I do not like this system, even though it's favored me. At least in other card games you can spend some money to push through a run of bad luck and unlock the one or two key cards you need to make a deck possible. In this one you can spend money to push through the bad luck and unlock cards you don't want, unless you spend a lot of money on the $80 packs and one of the cards you want happens to come up in the collectors token rotation
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GarudaPrime posted:My biggest leak, is not snapping in the mid game. I just cant do it mentally. I'm fine at retreating and game outcome prediction. I'm at least of average skill when playing the game itself. I'm probably not all that good at the core game but this is also my struggle. Same poo poo as poker too. Letting guys hang on too long or making big raises right into getting destroyed.
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GarudaPrime posted:My biggest leak, is not snapping in the mid game. I just cant do it mentally. I'm fine at retreating and game outcome prediction. I'm at least of average skill when playing the game itself. Do you have a sense of why you can’t snap first? Is it the fear of avoiding being wrong? It sounds like it may be working for you. You could take baby steps and snap turn 5, maybe? The Poker nerds tell me never to snap on 6. Depending on your deck, it might not be cut or dry if you’re going to win. I snap every time I have Negative on Turn 4, and I’m holding Sera. Exceptions are where my opponent has revealed I’m hosed. Wong with no cosmo, for example. In the long run, the strategy should net me more cubes than I lose. When you play to win four at a time, losing one or two doesn’t feel like much.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 21:25 |
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Yeah, I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Most players are probably snapping way, waaay more than they should. Here are a couple short videos that translate basic betting concepts to snap, Poker Concepts in Marvel Snap (Almost) Never Snap on Turn Six JackDarko posted:Depending on your deck, it might not be cut or dry if you’re going to win. I snap every time I have Negative on Turn 4, and I’m holding Sera. Exceptions are where my opponent has revealed I’m hosed. Wong with no cosmo, for example. One thing I do find funny about this deck is how often people will T6 snap me thinking I'm unsure and hesitating. Like, no motherfucker, I'm doing math. It's hard! Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jan 12, 2023 |
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I do know I love it when people play their key cards first and then snap the next turn.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 21:43 |
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If you don't snap on turn one you're playing the game wrong (I'll forgive you if you forget). Lol to people who think they are being strategic with their snaps.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 22:55 |
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No game, I don't want to spend 6000 credits on the loving Sentry
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in fact if you could remove The loving Sentry from all future, present, and past marvel properties we'd all be better off
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 23:26 |
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I haven't kept up with comics in awhile, do they even use him much anymore
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 00:22 |
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Very specific but odd encounter. If you have a Wolverine that gets destroyed and moves elsewhere, and that turn your opponent plays a Leader, it copies the Wolverine too. Also my biggest gripe right now; if you play an ongoing one turn, and Mystique the next, but in between reveals Enchantress or Rouge take the ongoing ability away, Mystique should still copy it
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 01:21 |
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Speaking of odd encounters. I had a kingpin down. Turn 6 I played Aero that pulled over the Colossus and Kingpin did in fact destroy the Colossus.
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Opopanax posted:Also my biggest gripe right now; if you play an ongoing one turn, and Mystique the next, but in between reveals Enchantress or Rouge take the ongoing ability away, Mystique should still copy it The last card you played no longer has an ongoing ability when Mystique triggers. It makes sense.
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Joink posted:Speaking of odd encounters. I had a kingpin down. Turn 6 I played Aero that pulled over the Colossus and Kingpin did in fact destroy the Colossus. If you have initiative he kills them face down right? At least Fisk towers did when I juggernauted someone there.
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Vulpes posted:The last card you played no longer has an ongoing ability when Mystique triggers. It makes sense. Yeah, but it did when I played it and that’s what should matter
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 01:46 |
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Finally grabbed Hela because I've been waiting for goddamn ever. Time to discard some poo poo
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 01:51 |
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I mean it depends on priority, which makes sense. The on reveals are just resolving in order
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 01:52 |
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Still unable to open Collector's Caches or Season caches. My shop has been the same since 12/22. I haven't gotten any daily rewards. All I can do is play matches. I've reinstalled, cleared cache, tried it on Steam. Support is useless. Discord is useless. There's about 15 other people there with the same issue and absolutely zero useful support help. "Link your account and reinstall!" gently caress off, I've done that a dozen times now! No winter rewards really sucks. I get that it's Christmas time but at least pretend to care and say you're looking into it. I better get compensated for this poo poo.
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 01:55 |
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Another weird interaction that makes sense: if you drop a nova on deaths domain, it will blow up, but you have a leader that copies nova on deaths domain, it won’t blow up. Won a game with the +4 this gave me.
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 02:18 |
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Interesting interaction that just lost me 8 cubes, Wong - Black Panther - Arnim Zola. Even if Zola moves Wong first, the game still fires Zola's effect again, so you end up with two 64 power BPs at each other location (since they double twice again thanks to Wong). Hard to tell if this is even working as intended given the inconsistencies in some of the mechanics. But it doesn't 'feel' right.
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 02:22 |
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buffalo all day posted:Another weird interaction that makes sense: if you drop a nova on deaths domain, it will blow up, but you have a leader that copies nova on deaths domain, it won’t blow up. Won a game with the +4 this gave me. Yeah that's a quirky one. Basically Leader copies the card but doesn't "play" it, so On Reveal actions still happen but not anything that would be triggered by play
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 02:22 |
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Vulpes posted:Hard to tell if this is even working as intended given the inconsistencies in some of the mechanics. But it doesn't 'feel' right. Yeah, feels like Zola does his check for On Reveal when revealed, sees the ongoing x2, and immediately queues up two. There's no re-check step between each activation My particular weird one is that a card concealed by invisible woman is not moved by Bifrost
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The cards aren't considered played until they flip, which is very important to know if you're using her
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