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There are a decent number of Wx decks running Thalia and either no non-creature or just a few wandering emperors.
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True. I'm keeping 2 duresses on my deck mostly Because as a newly returned player I'm unfamiliar with most cards in the meta.
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Dec 26, 2022 20:59
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Achievement unlocked: I milled someone out with Gix’s second, almost never used ability, after the board stalled out. BRO is a format that’s way faster than everyone expected but I’ve also seen more incidental mill wins/losses when boards stall and nobody can break through
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Dec 26, 2022 22:44
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Khanstant posted:Why is Durss considered not great in BO1? There's another card I can't find the name of rn, but it makes opponent discard 2 cards and I think that's my favourite card to play as MonoB aggro. Yeah, they get to choose it but usually feels like if I throw that thing down early and get em to discard half their hand or more I only have to worry about top deck threats and answers which is usually where I wanna be when smashing face. A few reasons; 1. It's an absolutely terrible topdeck most of the time. Against an opponent with nothing in hand or no spells it's literally useless. 2. Duress is good against decks with key noncreature spells, where their entire strategy hinges around those. Against an aggro deck with lots of creatures or a midrange deck with lots of interchangeable pieces getting a card with Duress doesn't really get you anywhere, since they can just play the rest of their hand or topdeck. You also might just miss against a hand full of creatures. 3. A fundamental issue with any discard spell is that you are paying mana and a card to remove something from your opponent's hand, but unlike a removal spell they haven't spent any mana. So you are always down mana on the exchange when you use Duress or a similar card.
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Dec 27, 2022 01:04
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Toozler posted:Graveyard Trespasser is the best black card Always fun to watch the opponent pitch a second removal to pay the ward cost.
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Dec 27, 2022 03:25
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quote:Duress Chat I have found a new friend in Dreams of Oil and Steel. Forcing an opponent to pitch their [creature/artifact you hate, usually their wincon] and exiling it + 1 other thing from their graveyard is a good value. It especially sasses monoB and reanimators.
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Dec 27, 2022 04:00
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Can Ward be doubled up? Kind of an edge case, but if I had Mishra, Tamer of Mak Fawa and Graveyard Trespasser on board, if an opponent wanted to target the Trespasser, would they have to discard and sacrifice, or just one or the other?
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Dec 27, 2022 04:09
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Each Ward ability triggers separately, and you'll need to pay for all of them if you want your action to actually resolve.
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Dec 27, 2022 04:10
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The new CGB video inspired me to make an all legendary creature deck with 4 Thalia and using Eiganjo as your removal spell and lol it's crazy how good and fun it is His version is Esper and probably better but 5 colors is fun as heck
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Dec 27, 2022 04:19
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Shooting Blanks posted:Can Ward be doubled up? Kind of an edge case, but if I had Mishra, Tamer of Mak Fawa and Graveyard Trespasser on board, if an opponent wanted to target the Trespasser, would they have to discard and sacrifice, or just one or the other? Yep, they stack. And on the opposite side of that coin, you don't have to pay ward costs at all if Lier is present on the board.
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Dec 27, 2022 05:17
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Why on earth is the MWM event standard Brawl? 
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Dec 27, 2022 18:45
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thespaceinvader posted:When standard sucks play brawl. but.... but.... what if Standard Brawl? edit: Oh, wait, this is all-access standard brawl. I think that makes it less-bad. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Dec 27, 2022 |
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Dec 27, 2022 18:57
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Yeah, Duress is occasionally insane, but also occasionally completely useless, so its mostly played in Bo3, when you can just not have it in your deck when its bad. Its really good against decks with lots of non-creatures, obviously. Also good against decks with important non-creature cards. This could be combo pieces, or it could be removal for YOUR combo pieces. It's good against control decks, they get a LOT easier to play against when you see their hand, and know exactly how many counterspells/removal spells they have at the moment. But if you're against aggro, and you look at their hand and find a bunch of 1-2 drops and some burn or something, you can pick off card, but it's probably not going to matter much. They'll be down a card, but you're also down a card and you spent mana to just see that you're kinda hosed. Thoughtsieze is good because it hits ANY non-land, but again, bad against decks that don't get hurt by taking 1 specific card, so even though its good enough to maindeck, in Bo3 you'll side it out against certain decks.
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Dec 27, 2022 19:04
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You're taking a risk. I mean, a Mox is a terrible card to topdeck on turn five, but it's super explosive on turn one. Likewise, Duress sucks on turn five, but a turn one Duress can totally destroy someone's plans.
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Dec 27, 2022 19:36
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Brawl is kinda fun, only did it a few times before just mashing whatever my quest stuff was, but this time made a mini commander deck with soldiers n crap. Wonder why this isn't a format on paper? Just too fast/consistent compared to commander?
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Dec 27, 2022 21:08
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It is a paper format, it just never took off - there's not a big audience for "casual format where you have to keep updating the deck with cards that have their prices overinflated due to being in Standard", it turns out
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Dec 27, 2022 21:13
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They released some brawl precons for… Throne of Eldraine? I used one as the bones of a commander deck. Just seems kinda redundant when EDH is thriving.
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Dec 27, 2022 21:16
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i mean brawl is just commander but you can't play with more than two because of programme limits anyway isn't it? Commander is plenty popular AIUI.
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Dec 27, 2022 21:35
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It is a paper format, it just never took off - there's not a big audience for "casual format where you have to keep updating the deck with cards that have their prices overinflated due to being in Standard", it turns out Ohhhh I absolutely did not realize it was standard style, haha, just assumed it was anything-goes singleton with EDH banlist. I would not have asked knowing there's a rotation, I would instead have asked
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Dec 27, 2022 22:05
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original paper brawl was pretty explicitly 'this is commander but with rotation to make it easier to get into for new players' which missed several points entirely as to why people like playing commander. it's still a fine concept though there's also historic brawl on arena, which is even more like 1v1 commander and doesn't rotate if you wanna poke at that
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Dec 27, 2022 22:57
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Gynovore posted:You're taking a risk. I mean, a Mox is a terrible card to topdeck on turn five, but it's super explosive on turn one. Likewise, Duress sucks on turn five, but a turn one Duress can totally destroy someone's plans. The point is that Duress can also be terrible on turn 1
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Dec 27, 2022 23:07
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Lone Goat posted:The point is that Duress can also be terrible on turn 1 Literally the turn 1 Duress is okayish. You get info. Top deck duress is terrible, I agree.
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Dec 27, 2022 23:24
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I would like to thank a turn 1 duress for winning me a game in this midweek when I got matched vs Ivy and pitched their Vesuvan Diplomancy. They scooped immediately.
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Dec 28, 2022 00:05
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Duress tends to be bad in bo1 if only because bo1 is mostly decks that duress is specifically bad against, mid range value piles and agro.
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Dec 28, 2022 04:40
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lmao the midweek doesn't have the brawl free mulligan?
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Historic Brawl is my favorite format by a country mile
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I tried to create a Grixis Standard Brawl deck using a bunch of vampires and it was pretty bad. My commander was Evelyn, who is decent if wildly expensive for a 2/5 draw 2. My thinking was that Grixis in Standard is good, what if you water it down a bit with bad vampire cards, will it at least be mediocre? No. All of the New Capenna vampires seem so interesting but they’re so bad. At least Corpse Appraiser is good. Two different opponents played the Commander 2 mana tax hate card. The vampires never really hit a critical mass or could do anything to slow down aggro due to their high costs, poor stats, and stuff like “can’t block”. I found myself playing Celestus and Fable and then not wanting to loot any cards because my whole deck was bad. Squeaked out two wins and then had an opponent insta concede.
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Dec 28, 2022 17:55
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How to win the standard brawl event effortlessly: Commander: Katilda, Dawnheart Martyr 24 lands Deck: absolute fuckload of enchants/spirits.
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Dec 28, 2022 18:29
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I tried a Raven Man discard deck for Mid-week Brawl. 3 easy concedes because people just don’t like discarding.
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Dec 28, 2022 18:34
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My preferred Standard Brawl decks are Baird and Soul of Windgrace. Obviously Jodah is the best commander by a million miles though.
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For the brawl every, I started with a raven man netdeck. Then I made an urza artifact ramp deck and had fun. Mostly red Auto Yesterday. Mostly blue control today as ops.
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Simply Simon posted:Another BRO draft, this time Trad! Started a Premier then, because I like the variety. Green was ridiculously open. I got two (!) Yotian Dissidents too, but I'm actually not playing them in the final deck. I didn't end up getting that many artifacts, and I think the consistency of a mono-colored deck is worth much more than their potential value of adding, like, two counters. Same argument for the Phalanx Vanguard. I also don't need Disenchant because I got three fight spells. https://www.17lands.com/draft/d269a24972ed42d1a703ad507a3fd087  Obviously I'm gonna win regardless of what I do because I opened motherfucking Titania's Command  . Regardless, would anybody build this differently?
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CovertGoBlue has done a video every day all month it seems and most of them are standard deck techs. They're all great if you're looking for inspiration in the current meta. He plays a lot of rogue strategies and makes VERY smart plays, so he's a great watch to up your game. Seriously, he plays some really great lanes and turns losing games around with patience
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Simply Simon posted:
Star and lantern does nothing except cycle 2 and maybe taps for stalwart, you have no artifact or sac or prowess synergy at all. You do have 4 self mill and fauna shaman so pallbearer is better than normal, and perimeter patrol is an on rate body, I would play both.
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Dec 29, 2022 00:24
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Algid posted:Star and lantern does nothing except cycle 2 and maybe taps for stalwart, you have no artifact or sac or prowess synergy at all. Unearth is a major part of this format so no, Lantern does not do "nothing".
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Lone Goat posted:Unearth is a major part of this format so no, Lantern does not do "nothing". It performs below both creatures overall, and that's taking into account all the synergies I mentioned, when your deck explicitly doesn't have those, it should be even worse.
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precision posted:CovertGoBlue has done a video every day all month it seems Aside from a short holiday a year ago, he's put out a video every day for several years at this point
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Dec 29, 2022 02:01
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My opponents in the brawl have been just wall to wall soldier piles. fuckers
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Dec 29, 2022 02:03
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All access brawl won't let me submit a deck with cards I don't own, lame. The "Submit Deck" button is greyed out for those decks, not sure what I'm missing.
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Ultimatefire posted:All access brawl won't let me submit a deck with cards I don't own, lame. The "Submit Deck" button is greyed out for those decks, not sure what I'm missing. I think I ran into the same problem, and addressed it by rebuilding the deck from the all-access brawl page, otherwise it defaults to non-all-access brawl rules.
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