Antonymous posted:

true, CGI has a better chance if the shot is actually filmed with the CGI elements already figured out. its insane that the clothing in the marvel films are CGI. they look good cause there was a good understanding and research done into how to achieve the desired effect before principle photography

edit: i never saw these movies and watching on youtube now 4 years later - meh. still looks like a videogame. but I remember buying it when I saw these things were CGI the first time that was in the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Z4J66uyIk

Beeftweeter posted:

when probably 60% of the actor is replaced with CG anyway it's actually easier

Antonymous posted:

actual good CGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di4Byf1EzRE

Xaris posted:

that's right

its cheaper to throw some mocap buttons, and go hog wild. good costuming = $$$$$$$$

i think goons/nerds sometimes overly complain about cgi, but the reason it's popular is it's extremely good at reducing labor costs. no need for a seamstress or costumer when you just pay some guy in taiwan $2/hr to do it in maya3d. all the computer stuff is non-union

McCloud posted:

A lot of VFX artist have talked about why the CGI is trash in so many (MCU) blockbuster movies despite the enormous budgets and it comes down to the directors just not caring/knowing what they're doing. A good director will sit down with them ahead of time and outline exactly what the scene is about, what they want to see, preferably with good storyboards, and check in periodically to make sure it looks like what they envisioned, to avoid major last-minute adjustments that are both expensive and require a lot of work from the animators.

Bad directors on the other hand will give vague instructions about what they want, and once the scene is like 95% done will ask for major adjustments making them start from scratch, leading to stress, burnout, forced overtime etc etc, and also making the end product look like poo poo

Jaxyon posted:

Its nolan he wouldnt cgi it he would just actually nuke something

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

A lot of The Hobbit being awful is forgivable when you consider Jackson had like no pre-production because the studio wouldn't push back any of the dates when Del Toro dropped out

He was literally making poo poo up on the spot and everyone was rushing to the very last minute just to get things put together, whereas LotR was planned out for like 2 years before filming.

i say swears online posted:

i say swears online posted:

the man has a maoist vision that needs telling

Dr. Killjoy posted:

through mulling over the potentialities no matter how absurd we can force reality to match them. the question is, how to do so for the better?

mastershakeman posted:

Who has less power

MCU director of random movie

Or wherever directed return of the Jedi with George over their shoulder

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Yeah, and then he put it back on throughout production by stress-eating bread and cheese.

King Kong though.. yeah. It wasn't great. I think that was the start of Jackson going all George Lucas and getting more into the technology than the filmmaking
which is probably why he's not making films now

Jaxyon posted:

Its nolan he wouldnt cgi it he would just actually nuke something

ikanreed posted:

Been seeing columbo compilations a lot on YouTube, and it sure seems like everyone he busted was upper class

fits my needs posted:

hmmm some of this stuff is kinda cool and hard to spot, but other stuff is like did that sidewalk curb really need to be slightly raised for some reason?
this kinda stuff always seems to have like a 'clean' veneer or fake' grimy' filter or something.

Blood Boils posted:

PJ is the head of half the studios involved in both trilogies, he was the executive producer (meaning it was most likely his decision to axe del Toro and his ideas) and they began pre-production in 2008 (the first one came out in 2012).

Sorry nerds, but PJ is just hit & miss as a filmmaker, there's no faceless big other to excuse it. It happens

This scene also rules????

KomradeX posted:

A director really cant do that when the studio comes in after wrap and changes a bunch of things to be more syngergetic with the other IPs. You could get the best director in the world with a concrete vision for one of these movies and the studio would gently caress it up to add scenes to hype up another movie, or completely change an action scene becaue they didn't like it. The directors on these big Disney movies have to have the least power ever

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

granted it's probably very hard as a creative person to realize you've undeniably peaked at 40
the man helped make some of the most beautiful fantasy films ever - where do you even go from there?

Laterite posted:

also equilibrium mostly sucks and is boring outside of the (too few) gunkata scenes

Laterite posted:

also equilibrium mostly sucks and is boring outside of the (too few) gunkata scenes

Beeftweeter posted:

huh theres a free 30 day trial of hbo max if you use bing

for some reason

Antonymous posted:

Dante Spinotti gave a lecture on Heat when I was at school and he said as an aside that on Ant Man & Wasp they just hand him a storyboard and lighting diagrams (lighting is done in advance so the CGI will look right with it) and he basically just manages the teams doing it. but he probably got paid good and he's super old. he deserves their money

Antonymous posted:

If you thought you were an 'artsy kid' in the early 2000s idk how david lynch and radiohead weren't a fact of life. it was unavoidable

a strange fowl posted:

i didn't watch tv or movies and listened exclusively to leonard cohen

Antonymous posted:

[Hans Moleman voice]

No, that's too artsy.

i say swears online posted:

clint eastwood sells his likeness to the studios with the stipulation they have to update the cgi to reflect his current (or projected after death) age