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there's a bunch of hour+ long bits of footage of the betas for anyone wondering what it looks and plays like
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 17:13 |
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Joke Miriam posted:I’m out of the loop since playing Diablo Immortal for like a week. Is Diablo 4 going to be bussin or will it be cap? I'm sure it'll sell billions of copies and many of the ARPG / MMO streamers will be playing it for a week then go back to whatever. As others said...it's pretty boring. I fizzled out around the late 20s on closed beta. My "TLDR but not entirely accurate" review would be "D3 but less bright and skill trees and a horse and no unique identity". It very much felt like someone forked the D3 codebase and iterated on stuff. Like if D3 was a MMO with a decade of patches, this might be where it'd end up, except more boring. The monetization doesn't look to be near the trash levels of Immortal, but where-as most other ARPGs and MMOs pick 1 or 2 monetization schemes, D4 is throwing literally every single one into the mix (aside from P2W for the most part). It has: - Battle pass (free and paid tier, there are exp boosts and stuff here, but it's on the free tier) - Box price ($70 for base game - most poo poo I buy off steam is like $10-25, most MMO expacs are still $40, maybe $70 is the current console norm or something) - Expansion cost - MTX - Pre-order "early start" (the most P2W thing we've heard about yet, I believe) - There's some "collector" edition that *doesn't even include the game*, lol So it's not scummy (other than early start), but it's greedy AF. But given how WoW is monetized these days, not surprising (expac, required sub, mtx, wow tokens). Blizz really seems desperate for cash these days. I feel like they're actually losing money due to the over-monetization of everything, but what the gently caress do I know, I'm not a game-business-economist or whatever. I just know I'm not playing D4 at launch because I don't feel it was worth $70 compared to $0 for a PoE season. Just like I haven't bought Dragonflight when I can play LOTRO / GW2 / ESO without a sub (and I have content I've yet to play in those as-is).
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 17:32 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:there's a bunch of hour+ long bits of footage of the betas for anyone wondering what it looks and plays like Does anyone have links? All the videos in my cursory google search have been DMCA'd.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 17:33 |
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blizz hasn't released any new footage in a while have theyLASER BEAM DREAM posted:Does anyone have links? All the videos in my cursory google search have been DMCA'd. https://bunkr.ru/a/GQDUcZFj
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 17:46 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:blizz hasn't released any new footage in a while have they https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXInQczdbmU
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 18:05 |
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xZAOx posted:I feel like they're actually losing money due to the over-monetization of everything, but what the gently caress do I know, I'm not a game-business-economist or whatever. Companies no longer consider the long-term impact of anything. They are run by rotating casts of CEOs, and a CEO is not thinking about a career at the company - they are thinking about pumping up the numbers for the immediate short term, looting all the value they can via bonuses and stocks, and then bouncing with a golden parachute. These companies fail, but it isn't due to ineptitude - on the contrary, these people know exactly what they are doing. The future only matters to the thousands of employees under them, not the ruling class, who will have the highest quality of life ever seen on planet earth, until they die.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 18:07 |
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I've heard it's going to be semi bussin
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 18:07 |
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Opened 20 gifts yesterday. Got 2 of the same cosmetic. Whoops.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 18:19 |
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kliras posted:there was the youtuber media day a few weeks back that didn't show anything that really caught my interest Oh yeah that was the one where they weren't allowed to use their own footage, but in return blizz released some more early game b-roll. I feel the same way. Doesn't look bad exactly, but also just does not get me excited and particularly not to buy it on launch. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jan 26, 2023 |
# ? Jan 26, 2023 18:36 |
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I finally got my cosmic wings! not even grinding for them, just solo leveling a new seasonal character, and gearing up normally. I finally got the 6 piece blood set, I was wondering, if iron rose gives you blood novas, why do most builds include it on their bars? You could run a golem, or something that uses essence or corpses in that slot, since you're never actually casting blood nova, you're getting the free ones from iron rose, which apparently still triggers your Simulacrum bros. Also its wild that necromancer has 2 unique resources in Essence and corpses, and the best build doesn't bother with either of them.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 18:43 |
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If it's on the bar, it is applies with your chosen rune. That's the only reason really, unless there are gap times of non-application then you need to manually do it to max the deepee esses.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 19:16 |
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https://us.diablo3.blizzard.com/en-us/blog/23893119 Now that's something new
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 19:17 |
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THEY FINALLY MADE A TRAP DH
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 19:22 |
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I don't know what I was expecting of the new season but this is better. Even if the spike trap set doesn't work out, multishot is going to be disgusting.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 19:46 |
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Jusupov posted:https://us.diablo3.blizzard.com/en-us/blog/23893119 this sounds really cool
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 19:49 |
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Actually kinda excited for the new season now.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 19:52 |
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Trap DH gently caress yeah
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:01 |
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That one dev is flexing pretty loving hard for this patch lmao
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:15 |
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Need to donate an Ancient Hellfire amulet, Ancient Puzzle Ring, and a Staff of Herding. That's going to be a loving grind. Are primordial ashes only from salvaging primals? Or do they come from something else too? Also it seems like you can trade 2 primals of any type to upgrade a legendary item into a primal version? That seems pretty good. bamhand fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jan 26, 2023 |
# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:16 |
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Pretty surprised they are only doing a 1 week ptr. They've been doing 2 weeks for last few.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:24 |
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bamhand posted:Are primordial ashes only from salvaging primals? Or do they come from something else too? Maybe it will drop from doing GRs as well?
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:25 |
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AlbertFlasher posted:Pretty surprised they are only doing a 1 week ptr. They've been doing 2 weeks for last few. That was when they had more than one person keeping it going.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:27 |
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They're really terrified to make Uliana's good, huh
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:27 |
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Really was not expecting a D3 season to have that much of a new feature. Neat! Definitely some insane power creep in that thing.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 20:37 |
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I'm excited to have a reason to play beyond the first week! I like doing pointless things like powerleveling my own characters, so the "items having no level requirement" really stuck out. When I play on console I usually resort to putting Boyarsky's chip in a hellfire amulet. They have no requirement and the gem is still 16k damage unleveled.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 21:10 |
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d3 remaining the industry leader in 'no you don't have to run the boring rear end story for the 500th time before you can play a new build'
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 21:43 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:d3 remaining the industry leader in 'no you don't have to run the boring rear end story for the 500th time before you can play a new build' but the w e i g h t
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 21:53 |
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Hmm the prospect of being able to craft a full set of literally perfect primal gear might get me back in... maybe. I don't know what the gently caress they can do for me after that without deciding to actually make more real content, which is not a reasonable expectation, even if it was a company that was not on fire all the time
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 21:56 |
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sauer kraut posted:If it's on the bar, it is applies with your chosen rune. The thing is, the item already casts Death Nova with the blood nova rune. Maybe its just to cast it faster than the tick from Siphon Life. My other theory is that Iron Rose didn't used to cast Blood Nova specifically, and its just an old guide that nobody updated.
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# ? Jan 26, 2023 22:32 |
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bamhand posted:Need to donate ... a Staff of Herding. F Everything else is pretty standard fare for a solo GR100+ season playthrough.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 00:54 |
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If you think staff of herding is going to suck to farm, the 19th cost is "Never Ending Questions", a rare drop from uniques in set dungeons.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 02:19 |
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Overall looks 95% rad. Definitely more of a reason to play longer. Not sure I'll be able to grind out the staff or do more than the seasonal one set dungeon for those bonuses but the transmog looks neat.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 02:54 |
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class and item changes also apply to non-ladder, right?
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 02:56 |
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Set and skill changes are retroactive, legendary item changes only apply to new drops, all changes except season gimmicks also apply to non-season. S28 looks good, I usually play longer than just the opening weekend and this looks like a good list of stuff to chase down.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 03:20 |
Does look like you get to pick and choose which bonuses you get first, so thankfully the really nasty grinds won't feel mandatory because it'll be for the bonuses you didn't want. Smart. Like it.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 03:21 |
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From what I understand the grinds are in the order they are numbered. E.g., if you want more than 18 upgrades you're going to have to do the set dungeon one to unlock your 19th upgrade.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 03:24 |
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Wow I was gonna start with 90S Frenzy anyway, now the madmen just went and doubled the 6 piece damage bonus to 2000%/stack
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 03:32 |
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Eyeballing it, trap DH is just gonna use 2pc Shadow and be another Strafe build, which seems lame.DarkMatt posted:Does look like you get to pick and choose which bonuses you get first, so thankfully the really nasty grinds won't feel mandatory because it'll be for the bonuses you didn't want. Smart. Like it.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 03:41 |
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I wonder how early you can access it, it would be nice to have 0 level requirements so I can level up faster without having to ask for a powerlevel.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 03:45 |
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bio347 posted:Depends on how mandatory you feel the wings are, I suppose. I also dunno how you get the double primal drops and my best guess is "you gotta collect them all!" A lot of the really good core stuff though seems easy enough to get.
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