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zoux posted:Hey, idk why everyone is so mad about this, if you guys are right then Netflix - an evil multibillion dollar company - will face severe economic backlash that they absolutely cannot afford right now. It might even sink the platform! And this is just maddeningly disingenuous. Like, Netflix screwing even one (1) end user over while providing no reciprocal benefit, just to make number potentially go up, sucks. Why defend that?
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zoux posted:If everyone is just going to effortlessly switch back to piracy, why all the teeth gnashing and rending of garments. YOU WILL REGERT THIS BECAUSE I WILL PIRATE poo poo, well get after it homie. Cancel your sub and do it. I took the frigate out of drydock the literal second the first station specific streaming service was announced. And it honestly has nothing to do with the money, the cost of systems and vpn amounts to about a decade of subscription fees (and I still pay for disney, apple, and paramount+), I just can't stand swapping between 30 apps trying to figure out which one has the show I want to watch, and Plex solves that problem.
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Arist posted:And this is just maddeningly disingenuous. Because I don't think that "companies should provide services out of the goodness of their hearts" is realistic. Every corporation in America wants number to go up and they have and will always make that decision. I don't think it's going to ruin Netflix like everyone is arguing it will, and I don't believe in an inalienable right to access all streaming content at a low, low price. And I think a lot of people who are trying to make this into a major issue are just mad that they are going to have to get a sub and can't just use their ex-gf from 5 years ago's password anymore. bull3964 posted:BTW, the password location guidelines that were accidentally posted were only relevant for the handful of South American countries that are currently trialing a password sharing fee. lol Azhais posted:I took the frigate out of drydock the literal second the first station specific streaming service was announced. And it honestly has nothing to do with the money, the cost of systems and vpn amounts to about a decade of subscription fees (and I still pay for disney, apple, and paramount+), I just can't stand swapping between 30 apps trying to figure out which one has the show I want to watch, and Plex solves that problem. Yeah, my feeling is that the bulk of the potential piracy fleet set sail long ago, because why wouldn't you? If you have the wherewithal and equipment to do it, why are you subbing to Netflix -or anything - in 2023. zoux fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Feb 2, 2023 |
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Josh Lyman posted:I wonder what’s going to happen to cable internet users with dynamic IPs I'm pretty sure dynamic IPs are the norm in the US. Do you really think Netflix hasn't considered this? Cojawfee posted:Are the people complaining about legitimate use that will be blocked whiners? People in the military who deploy for longer than a month who lose access to their Netflix. Or people who end up on the road for longer than a month. I could understand if it actually affected these people. So far it has not but people are already big mad about it. Cojawfee posted:Or children who have netflix on an ipad who go visit another parent for a summer who doesn't have netflix themselves. I don't understand this argument because that other parent should be footing the bill for something for their household.
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zoux posted:Because I don't think that "companies should provide services out of the goodness of their hearts" is realistic. Every corporation in America wants number to go up and they have and will always make that decision. I don't think it's going to ruin Netflix like everyone is arguing it will, and I don't believe in an inalienable right to access all streaming content at a low, low price. gently caress off, dude. Every single thing you've posted here is a ridiculous strawman. No one is saying they have to make poo poo for free! People are mad because they're making their product worse on purpose! What the gently caress are you talking about!?
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Arist posted:gently caress off, dude. Every single thing you've posted here is a ridiculous strawman. They aren't making it worse for me, a person who pays for his own netflix account and doesn't share it with anyone. Why should I give a gently caress? The way this is negatively impacting me is having to listen to a whole bunch of people whine about hypothetical scenarios in which *someone* might not be able to access a Netflix account because of reasons.
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zoux posted:They aren't making it worse for me, a person who pays for his own netflix account and doesn't share it with anyone. Why should I give a gently caress. gently caress you, got mine. Nice.
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Oh, okay, you're just a huge piece of poo poo with no empathy for other people, gotcha. Like, it doesn't actually affect me, either, but jesus christ.
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GreenNight posted:gently caress you, got mine. Nice. It's a netflix sub it's not a loving private school education.
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zoux posted:The way this is negatively impacting me is having to listen to a whole bunch of people whine about hypothetical scenarios in which *someone* might not be able to access a Netflix account because of reasons. Instead you choose to whine about those entitled poors trying to get one over on the noble Netflix corporation. Much better.
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zoux posted:Yeah it's a bunch of people who mooch off of other accounts mad that they're going to have to start paying and trying to attach harm by coming up with wild corner-case scenarios. I would advise all the people with legitimate concerns about this practice to show their outrage by cancelling their accounts that they already don't have. Or the people who might actually be affected by this like, idk, offshore drillers and Ted Kaczynski, could cancel their accounts as well. They won't. I think the next two live action ones are Ashoka and Skeleton Crew. The former will be pure Filoni, the latter is explicitly YA with Jude Law as the adult. Really curious how those will be received. In terms of animation the next volume of Visions was announced, and Aardman is doing one of the shorts, which I can’t wait for.
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I love this logic, that we can't ever criticize any company for anything because they're just trying to make money
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zoux posted:They aren't making it worse for me, a person who pays for his own netflix account and doesn't share it with anyone. Why should I give a gently caress? The way this is negatively impacting me is having to listen to a whole bunch of people whine about hypothetical scenarios in which *someone* might not be able to access a Netflix account because of reasons. Posting in dnd should lock you out of the rest of the forum for a day or something. Curtail that sociopath swagger imo.
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zoux posted:I'm anti-caping whining twitter users who think that everything should be free. How about the people whining about Netflix’s predatory licensing and royalty practice?
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ruddiger posted:How about the people whining about Netflix’s predatory licensing and royalty practice? That's fair game but I'm not seeing complaining about that right now. Possibly instructive though.
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As long as the mega corporation did something that earned them a single dollar, they can do no wrong and any inconvenience you have means you are a whiny twitter user.
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Well, glad the self-appointed arbiter of Netflix discourse is here to tell us which lovely corporate practices are Actually Good and which are fine to complain about because the complaining doesn't personally annoy him It's a hard job but someone's gotta do it
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Arist posted:People are mad because they're making their product worse on purpose! Well, I mean they aren't yet. They may, but currently aren't. There were some accidental posted guidelines for a specific region that was already trialing something relating to password sharing that may or may not end up in the US. Then all the news blogs ran with it and there was a collective freak out about all the various edge cases. Bottom line is, there isn't anything official yet from either a guideline or timeline perspective. When that does come down then we can probably have an informed discussion about it, but until then it's speculation. What I do find curious is the particular level of ire that Netflix seems to invoke on this. Paramount and Warner Bros Discovery are both playing games with content availability. Peacock just nixed their free tier. Disney+, HBO, and Hulu just raised their prices. AMC+ just un-renewed a bunch of shows. There are no ideal actors here and everything sucks in some sort of way. Everything going on right now is unsustainable so it's all going to crash eventually anyways but I do think Netflix is going to end coming out more intact than others (if for no other reason than they don't have a risk adverse parent over-correcting on course.) Until then, all we can do is vote with our dollars.
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zoux posted:It's a netflix sub it's not a loving private school education. These are just regular shoes I'm slobbering on, not boots.
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https://twitter.com/gingerthejester/status/1620838779295780875?s=20 Oh I'm sure this will be amazing.
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stop bootlicking zoux Before everyone gets locked out of their Netflix accounts make sure to watch CUNK ON EARTH which is funny as hell
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cunk's a funny character and it's a good performance but she desperately needs better writing. all the jokes are so obvious.
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Medullah posted:https://twitter.com/gingerthejester/status/1620838779295780875?s=20 I'm always rooting for good television but after what CBS did with The Sit, I have no hope for what they churn out.
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Hulu has renewed Hit Monkey which, I could have sworn it was cancelled. It's also very weird they would wait so long to renew it since it came out over a year ago. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/hit-monkey-renewed-season-2-hulu-1235509885/
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5va73/squid-game-reality-show-participants-rigged Whoops, turns out that Netflix's Squid Game reality competition show is facing accusations of being fixed. Linked is an interview with a participant who revealed that there were basically two sets of competitors, ones who applied and ones who were cast and it became pretty clear that the applied ones were just being treated as extras.
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zoux posted:It's a netflix sub it's not a loving private school education. It's anti consumer and bad business, which you not seeing is weird. So is them not letting you screenshot shows to spread memes, that's just bad marketing.
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The thing with Netflix is it's not like Exxon who are just padding absolutely ridiculous profit. They are operating in debt based on growth. That growth is starting to plateau so they are going to have to stop losing cash. They have to or they'll go under. I'm not a huge fan of the policy, I share with my mom. But I absolutely don't view it as some malicious tactic. They have two options... Start making money or go away. They're going to start reducing content - the amount they spend per household is way WAY over what the user actually spends. Then adding ads (obvi) and also try a bunch of methods for trying to boost the number of paying subscribers to try to, eventually, make a steady profit.
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BonoMan posted:The thing with Netflix is it's not like Exxon who are just padding absolutely ridiculous profit. They are operating in debt based on growth. That growth is starting to plateau so they are going to have to stop losing cash. They have to or they'll go under. Yea - I think this has been Netflix’s Achilles heel is they have no other revenue streams like Apple or Disney who can do this at a loss.
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Medullah posted:https://twitter.com/gingerthejester/status/1620838779295780875?s=20 Weird that CBS would so heavily advertise that they're going to air the movie a month from now, to the point that they hired a couple of actors to recreate a still from the film for the poster, but oh well, it's a good film, I should watch it again!
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zoux posted:Hang on is James Cameron making the other avatar He's making another 3
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I honestly kind of side with zoux on the Netflix debate. Like, it sucks, cause I share with my folks who probably wouldn't otherwise have the service, but we're sharing an account, i don't quite understand the massive outrage and sense of entitlement.
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Just subscribe for one month and binge 50 hours of shows like a normal person
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Looten Plunder posted:I honestly kind of side with zoux on the Netflix debate. Like, it sucks, cause I share with my folks who probably wouldn't otherwise have the service, but we're sharing an account, i don't quite understand the massive outrage and sense of entitlement. Their marketing people have literally used the concept of password sharing in advertisements for the service, it’s not much of a mystery why people are angry about the streaming giant who already raises prices every single year while shrinking their catalog suddenly enforcing a new policy (that exists solely to force new subs at the now-increased rates) that will also gently caress over a whole bunch of people who aren’t even sharing their account just because they may not be able to login from their “home network” every 31 days.
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Pretty normal for friends/family/coworkers to create a web of streaming service coverage. It's obviously a bad deal to subscribe to every streaming service, each one only has a fraction of things you want to watch and you're always being charged whether you stream 24/7 or not at all. I pay for Hulu and HBO by paying for Paramount+ and Peacock. Netflix was supposed to be all those things for a lower price than I pay now, so it's already been a horrible leap backwards albeit not their fault companies want their own lovely versions. Still, we're supposed to have all the streaming services for the one streaming service price and this splintering has been a fantastically bad deal. But sure, consumers calling consumers entitled is always a good and worthwhile endeavor.
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Looten Plunder posted:I honestly kind of side with zoux on the Netflix debate. Like, it sucks, cause I share with my folks who probably wouldn't otherwise have the service, but we're sharing an account, i don't quite understand the massive outrage and sense of entitlement. It wouldn't even bother me if we could just go up a tier on Netflix and pay, say, an extra $5 or $10 or whatever dollars for each additional location. I would do that, just so I could keep my profile. I want to keep my 10+ year history of shows and ratings that I've watched. I want to keep the records of how far into a show I've watched, like how many seasons & episodes, so I can go back to it when I feel like it. I want to keep the shows I've added to "watch later", and the curated profile of my tastes that it has, that it uses to suggest new poo poo for me. It's not even that great of an algorithm but it's 100x better than the default, which just suggests lovely reality shows and other things I don't wanna see. Can I export my profile into a new account? If I can do that, I probably will. I sail the open seas for pretty much everything, but Netflix is a useful service just to help keep track of what shows I'm watching, shows I've forgotten about, and which ones I'm interested in and want to check out.
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