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holy moly i had no idea there were two hours of footage for this does it combine into a coherent narrative?
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 01:14 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 04:07 |
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The best game was the VHS game
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 01:23 |
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Beeftweeter posted:holy moly i had no idea there were two hours of footage for this Not particularly. Pretty bog-standard story of a conspiracy between some Starfleet cadets and some Klingons to incite war between the two empires. (Translation: They did a find-replace on The Undiscovered Country, with an added Kobayashi Maru cheating subplot.) Also, that YouTube video incorporates footage from Klingon Academy, which could have been a great game but is so janky that its code is held together with toothpicks, chewing gum and the ligaments of the wretched and the damned.
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 01:52 |
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Timby posted:Not particularly. Pretty bog-standard story of a conspiracy between some Starfleet cadets and some Klingons to incite war between the two empires. (Translation: They did a find-replace on The Undiscovered Country, with an added Kobayashi Maru cheating subplot.) ah thanks, that's what i figured from scrubbing through it. maybe someday i'll leave it on as white noise
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 03:29 |
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What the gently caress is this.
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 03:38 |
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Tom Guycot posted:Look, I think its nice you want to find the universe of the good disco and picard, but don't you think its a bit morbid to go sliding around every which way just to find the universe where JJ Abrams fell down a mystery hole and died as a kid? morbidly funny
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 04:28 |
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Timby posted:Not particularly. Pretty bog-standard story of a conspiracy between some Starfleet cadets and some Klingons to incite war between the two empires. (Translation: They did a find-replace on The Undiscovered Country, with an added Kobayashi Maru cheating subplot.) Think it's been a few years since I posted the interview about the trainwreck that was Klingon Academy's development: quote:KA was meant to be a glorified expansion pack to SFA. The I-play upper management wanted it to be SFA with new scripts, a couple of new ships, a couple of new weapons and NO MOVIES (especially after the "Orange Gaffer's Tape Fiasco"). However, in playing the beta revs of SFA, we (the KA team) realized that SFA wasn't about to live up to the claims made in the advertising so Raphael, a.k.a. “The Spaniard”, paid lip service to management's concept and set to work creating an entirely different game—a dirty and underhanded move that earned him the title of Raph-ulan. Over the next couple of months we developed a design to address the weaknesses in SFA that we identified, and under orders I shot for the moon (which in hindsight was a terrible mistake and were I more experienced I would have reigned myself in). Also the trailer for it is dope as gently caress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPnDrKn0Z0Y EDIT - Couple of notes on references in there: "KMB" refers to a mission builder utility that had been promised as part of the game, then later to "we'll make it available for download later," but was ultimately never released. I'm not sure exactly what the "orange gaffer's tape fiasco" was but my recollection is they hosed up and had to re-shoot a whole bunch of footage, which when you're dealing with the likes of William Shatner must have been horribly expensive. Farmer Crack-Ass fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Mar 1, 2023 |
# ? Mar 1, 2023 04:45 |
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Timby posted:Not particularly. Pretty bog-standard story of a conspiracy between some Starfleet cadets and some Klingons to incite war between the two empires. (Translation: They did a find-replace on The Undiscovered Country, with an added Kobayashi Maru cheating subplot.) That's true, but the gameplay was still more cohesive than SFA, and the cutscenes do stitch together into a cohesive movie that acts as a solid prequel to Star Trek VI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8sQY8CqcZ4 Also the score kicks all kinds of rear end and is still what I think of when I think of Klingon war music.
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 08:46 |
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I did not expect a videogame from ages ago to explain how Chang lost his eye and why he initially wanted Gorkon dead.
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 09:03 |
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I've always heard great things about Klingon Academy, it's wild that no one mentioned its an Undiscovered Country prequel
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 01:56 |
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"You mean your not going to be naked at your own wedding!" I love Deanna being outraged over that detail.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 04:55 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
My understanding of it was that all the live-action footage from Starfleet Academy was filmed with the actors in front of a green screen, and some idiot painted red dots onto it to help with camera tracking. Problem is, the red dots would have shown up once the background was inserted (and as the paint dried, it was the same color as the Wrath of Khan-era uniforms Shatner and Takei were wearing, so it would have been a colossal pain in the rear end to remove in post-production.)
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:15 |
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Maybe Quark should be in prison.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:18 |
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DoubleCakes posted:Maybe Quark should be in prison. Shut up Odo.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:21 |
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Its bullshit that in this episode Geordi says that the guest should really see the dolphins but we never get to see the dolphins either. Hell just one scene in Cetacian ops
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:28 |
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dr_rat posted:Shut up Odo. Quark should be in prison because he's a con artist. Odo should be in prison because he was an enforcer for a fascist regime
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:36 |
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Hollismason posted:Its bullshit that in this episode Geordi says that the guest should really see the dolphins but we never get to see the dolphins either. Hell just one scene in Cetacian ops Simulate it by watching clips of SeaQuest when watching a TNG episode.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:37 |
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Whenever Quark is not in a scene all the other characters should be asking "Why isn't Quark in jail".
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:39 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Quark should be in prison because he's a con artist. Odo should be in prison because he was an enforcer for a fascist regime Hey, that's not fair at all! Quark committed many other crimes, not just conning people. Show him some respect!
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 05:49 |
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worf is more of a fascist than odo
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 06:48 |
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Beeftweeter posted:worf is more of a fascist than odo If you were any other man, I'd kill you where you post!
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 06:49 |
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Beeftweeter posted:worf is more of a fascist than odo Odo’s worse than a fascist; he’s a collaborator.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 06:51 |
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nine-gear crow posted:If you were any other man, I'd kill you where you post! Killing a man on the toilet is without honor
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 07:02 |
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Beeftweeter posted:worf is more of a fascist than odo Odo is a worse person but at least he didn't do domestic terrorism on Risa
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 07:24 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Odo’s worse than a fascist; he’s a collaborator. true Seemlar posted:Odo is a worse person but at least he didn't do domestic terrorism on Risa also true, worf is also a prudish weeaboo
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 07:26 |
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At least Odo has the excuse that he's more or less forced to literally share his mental and physical being with a bunch of fascists, and it's physically painful to tear himself away. Worf basically just gets bored and chooses it.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 14:29 |
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Sir Lemming posted:At least Odo has the excuse that he's more or less forced to literally share his mental and physical being with a bunch of fascists, and it's physically painful to tear himself away. Worf basically just gets bored and chooses it. He also collaborated with the Cardassians, how does this keep happening???
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 14:30 |
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Liquid and spoons are a match made in heaven
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 14:45 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:He also collaborated with the Cardassians, how does this keep happening??? I'm not calling this a defense, but Odo was a weird alien baby shot into space to explore/get bullied in advanced so the founders wouldn't have to. The show seems to want to argue that his people are genetically disposed towards order/fascism (whether they're just that way or reprogrammed themselves, given that they made/modiifed the Vorta and Jem'Hadar) And then while he's out in the wide open, before he even develops a sense of self, he's shot through a wormhole in some distant part of the universe full of strange alien lifeforms (help me listen please) and its a bunch of OTHER fascists in the process of doing a huge brutal occupation, the kid was hosed to begin with.
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 21:01 |
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part of the thing that makes the founders compelling to me is that the other authoritarian/fascist regimes (i.e. the cardassians, klingons and romulans) are all like okay these guys are going a bit too far they are ruthless. the federation has to resort to genocide, for fucks sake, to stop them and this is apparently a failure, even
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# ? Mar 2, 2023 21:08 |
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Welp https://twitter.com/JamesHibberd/status/1631414119373893635?s=20
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:00 |
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Current speculation is that this is the first casualty of Paramount's money troubles and it was a surprise cancellation. Hopefully the dominoes stop falling there and the other Trek shows are safe, but who knows.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:02 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Current speculation is that this is the first casualty of Paramount's money troubles and it was a surprise cancellation. Hopefully the dominoes stop falling there and the other Trek shows are safe, but who knows.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:09 |
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Brawnfire posted:Liquid and spoons are a match made in heaven "You tried to freebase me!" "We didn't know!"
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:17 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I would assume it is a money thing, because they had talked about going 7 seasons. i feel for the people that genuinely like discovery but it's honestly probably better that they didn't. they seriously seemed out of ideas while i'm not averse to them trying new things or having star trek in a nontraditional format, i stopped watching discovery because the series taken as a whole is simply incoherent. it doesn't know what kind of show it wants to be, never did, and seems to exist simply because someone five seasons and four (maybe more, i haven't been keeping track) showrunners ago was given a commission for a new star trek series. that's not good, and the results are predictably not great either it had a strong cast, good visuals, and interesting set design, but those are simply the trappings of a good star trek show, imo. you need good writers and a showrunner with a clear vision to make it work, and discovery didn't really ever have that i said this in the nutrek thread and i stand by it: if this means more resources get allocated to SNW (or it simply can continue with whatever it already has), then that's good, imo. i don't think it's controversial to say it's the better effort, and given the choice i'd take more SNW over more disco any day e: lol genuinely no idea how many showrunners disco had, whatever Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 3, 2023 |
# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:20 |
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Season 4 proved to me that they had no idea what they wanted to do with the show. It's 13 episodes but with how thin that story was it could have been 6.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:25 |
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They had a perfect opportunity to leave all the baggage of the existing lore behind, and set themselves up for a much more episodic format where they go around and rebuild the federation, "rediscovering" species we already knew. And instead, they just went for another season long McGuffin.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 00:33 |
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Who can forget Book constantly crying in every episode. Or the guy who wants to go to the Heaven dimension because his completely platonic friend might be there, if it even exists. Or the greatest tragedy of having literal space whales and not tying it into Voyage Home.
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 01:02 |
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Hollismason posted:"You mean your not going to be naked at your own wedding!" Classic Roddenberry! Hollismason posted:Its bullshit that in this episode Geordi says that the guest should really see the dolphins but we never get to see the dolphins either. Hell just one scene in Cetacian ops Even Roddenberry wouldn't show that level of horniness on tv...
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# ? Mar 3, 2023 02:29 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I would assume it is a money thing, because they had talked about going 7 seasons. I'd imagine something like "We'd love to do a sixth season, but gosh, we just can't afford it if the actors' pay goes up like their contracts say..." and Martin-Green and the rest went, via their agents, "gently caress that".
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