Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1651296361688465442?s=20

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1651296361688465442?s=20

Professor Beetus posted:

Not clicking on a vox article, are they concern trolling about a couple of Twitter nobodies with hammer and sickle next to their names praising him for his anti-imperialist stances? Because those are the only people I have seen on the left praising him.

cat botherer posted:

No, it's in the genre of "a leftist is someone more progressive than Chris Coons."

Professor Beetus posted:

Oh that ol' chestnut. Well, it was bound to be one or the other.

zoux posted:

Do you think it's worth interrogating that you didn't click on the article so as to not have your previous notions challenged such that you could incorrectly reaffirm your cynicism?

cat botherer posted:

Us hate-clicking articles like that is exactly why outlets keep pumping out ragebait like that. There's no reason to ever think anything it that article would be insightful or even just non-demented. Having clicked on the article, I can confirm this.

quote:

The show declined to play the gatekeeping role that many of Carlson’s detractors demand of mainstream media platforms. Carlson hosted heads of state in the same week as fringe characters of both the far left and far right. He tapped into populist insights, cutting through left- and right-wing echo chambers and putting hard questions to corporate executives and members of the political establishment.

quote:

“​​Republican leaders will have to acknowledge that market capitalism is not a religion. Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster. You’d have to be a fool to worship it,” Tucker said in a typical segment. “Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings. We do not exist to serve markets. Just the opposite.”

That passage of his monologue could have been lifted from a stump speech by Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, progressive senators whose views on economic policy Carlson has at times echoed.

zoux posted:

But it's not about a couple of twitter nobodies, it's about an article in one of the few prominent leftist outlets in the country. Have you read the Prospect article they're talking about? Do you think they're correct that Tucker Carlson's populist appeal is something the left should seek to emulate? Do you give him credit for his "willingness to challenge and mock ruling elites [that] went alongside an obsessively nativist message that alienated viewers who might otherwise have embraced his populist perspective." You might want to make sure you agree with the Tucker Carlson apologia you are indirectly advocating.

zoux posted:

But it's not about a couple of twitter nobodies, it's about an article in one of the few prominent leftist outlets in the country. Have you read the Prospect article they're talking about? Do you think they're correct that Tucker Carlson's populist appeal is something the left should seek to emulate? Do you give him credit for his "willingness to challenge and mock ruling elites [that] went alongside an obsessively nativist message that alienated viewers who might otherwise have embraced his populist perspective." You might want to make sure you agree with the Tucker Carlson apologia you are indirectly advocating.

Do you think these kinds of comparisons help or hurt efforts to build the progressive movement

Professor Beetus posted:

Some dorks writing for the prospect may as well be Twitter nobodies for all the significant media presence leftist media has. And the framing Vox chooses to go with is telling "controversy on the left! (meaning one article got written about a thing and are getting rightfully pilloried for it)." It's just like when RWM picks up on some "loony lefty" poo poo at one college and put out an article to highlight and signal boost it and make it seem like everyone to the left of Mitt Romney agrees. And you're buying it just like the same rubes that hang in Ben Shapiro's every word. The political spectrum punches left.

I'd like to know how my decision to ignore garbage media outlets is "indirectly advocating Tucker Carlson apologia."

zoux posted:

It was a major discussion on the internet yesterday, every political account I follow was talking about it. The editor had to issue a public apology! But if you're just going to define it down to twitter nobodies so that you're correct, there's nothing to discuss. And how do you know how it's framed if you didn't click on the article?

Professor Beetus posted:

And I know how the article is framed because that is clear from the headline. I

zoux posted:

But you were wrong, is the thing.

zoux posted:

cat botherer posted:

https://www.theonion.com/checked-out-editorial-cartoon-1850373650

Gyges posted:

Having previously worked in libraries for 18 years, I can 100% verify that there is porn there for you to check out. The problem is that it's going to be in the Romance, Art, and Social Sciences sections, not the Children's section. Also depending on the library there may be some adult periodicals, and every library has the internet. At the college I worked at, we had a complete collection of Playboys. At the Public Library I worked at we threw out 1-3 donations of complete Playboy collections every year.

No need to rage against the subtext of whatever book is pissing of "concerned parents" this week, there's at least 3 copies of Lady Chatterley's Lover sitting in Adult Fiction for you to peruse.

Gyges posted:

The county I was working for did end up getting filtering, which did result in hilarious work arounds for the desperate. One dude found an unfiltered site that was all body builders showing off their assets, which was mostly amusing because I had to remind him several times to keep his voice down because he kept talking to himself about how "loving muscle bitches ain't got no titties".

I thought the filtering was dumb, since we not only had privacy screens but also had clearly separated childrens and adults computer sections set up on the opposite side of each branch. However old people gonna bitch incessantly at county meetings, and several of the staff at various branches complained about feeling very uncomfortable seeing people looking at porn. Which would usually be fair, but in my mind seeing some titties and dicks is part of the job as a librarian. I mean, you're going to see them in the books you're looking through for damage anyway. Not to mention the surprise roulette of going through the donations.

Plus I'll take knowing you like leather daddies any day of the week over realizing by your book selection that you're getting divorced, have cancer, and it's looking terminal.

zoux posted:

Lemme just accrue 16k in medical debt because Facebook memes. Hard to win these people over on material concerns when they won't take FREE loving MONEY. Good luck to that baby.

zoux posted:

Lemme just accrue 16k in medical debt because Facebook memes. Hard to win these people over on material concerns when they won't take FREE loving MONEY. Good luck to that baby.

RandomBlue posted:

Probably just basic grifting.

Professor Beetus posted:

Dumb piece of poo poo essentially holding necessary medical care from his family because he doesn't want to be on Medicaid? These people really are true believers, most conservatives just just publicly trash welfare programs while still benefiting from them.

e: actually barring any evidence to the contrary I'm going to assume that's exactly what they're doing and that the GoFundMe is just grift

Gyges posted:

Taxation is theft, donation is charity.

Gyges posted:

Taxation is theft, donation is charity.

Guavanaut posted:

"What political purposes are those, Adolf?"
"Oh, you know..."

happyhippy posted:

From the way it was worded, I was expecting the kids to pull out guns and shoot at each other.
As that would be totally more American.

Milo and POTUS posted:

I'll be god damned if anyone is stealing a base on my watch