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Jewmanji posted:Yeah the gag about wearing flats, and that part where Ryan Gosling pops out of the back seat sure did have me in stitches. Never seen anything quite like it. 
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Vintersorg posted:Just opening your maw and accepting anything without criticism is lame.
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May 25, 2023 20:37
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I'm surprised that they got 'Barbie Girl' in there, given the legal issues between Aqua and Mattel.
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May 25, 2023 20:51
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BigglesSWE posted:Anywaaaayyyy how about some Barbie huh? In the "cold shower" clip, why is there no water coming out of the shower head, but Barbie reacts as if there is? They forgot to CGI water?
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May 25, 2023 20:56
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Brocktoon posted:In the "cold shower" clip, why is there no water coming out of the shower head, but Barbie reacts as if there is? They forgot to CGI water? its a toy
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May 25, 2023 21:00
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Brocktoon posted:In the "cold shower" clip, why is there no water coming out of the shower head, but Barbie reacts as if there is? They forgot to CGI water? Either that or the joke is that a Barbie Doll House wouldn't have real piping and running water.
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May 25, 2023 21:00
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This mans got receipts. I think the difference here is that what is being displayed is clearly not what you and that other person are describing as poo poo. I agree that some jokes are lowest common denominator and go on a bit too long but there's just enough in the trailer to say this is not gonna be the Lego Movie. At least I want that to be true. Put the cheap gags to get butts in the seats but pull a Mother-style mindfuck to make people think (and get mad). That's not saying Mother is some deep thing but it was trying something.
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May 25, 2023 21:01
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BigglesSWE posted:Anywaaaayyyy how about some Barbie huh? Casting will ferrel in that role only reminds me how much i enjoyed the lego movie and how derivative this seems 
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May 25, 2023 21:03
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Vintersorg posted:This mans got receipts. I don't know that Mother! is a particularly good analogy because that was marketed as a horror film from the get-go (from a director infamous for putting shocking material in his films). Maybe I'm misremembering the marketing campaign for that film. But it's not a subversive work that's playing on any particular tropes, it's simply a straightforward horror film (opinions about it notwithstanding). I can guarantee that if Barbie is going to do anything subversive, it's going to do it in the mildest way possible, to the extent that it can be ignored by people who choose not to see that aspect of it. The arc of the story seems like a pretty cliche loss-of-innocence thing with some nods at how socially regressive the brand has historically been. The movie itself is basically an attempt by Mattel to launder it's new "progressive" brand through a different medium. About the only controversy it's going to court is from chuds like Ben Shapiro or whatever. The reason Toy Story is a relevant comparison is because Toy Story doesn't have a cynical or ironic bone in its body, and plays it completely earnestly, which is something filmmakers seem very allergic to these days (i.e. risking seeming "cringe"). I hope I'm wrong, but that's my take. edit: I should also say I'm generally a wet blanket when it comes to most modern American comedies, and I've never really cared for Margot Robbie (not for any particular reason), so I'm maybe not the best judge of this. Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 25, 2023 |
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May 25, 2023 21:16
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BigglesSWE posted:Anywaaaayyyy how about some Barbie huh? Intern at WB hosed up the subtitles, lol. 
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May 25, 2023 21:25
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Everything Ryan Gosling does in that trailer is hilarious I’m sorry your brains are broken and can’t properly react to high levels of Kenergy
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May 25, 2023 21:27
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Colonel Whitey posted:This feels very "A24 Movie" in the vein of EEAAO but I guess that's not such a bad thing. The bits you can see of the main guy's performance looks very good, as does Swinton as usual. Julio Torres rules way back to his SNL days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid_gQEShSg and even further back to public access https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fid_gQEShSg
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May 25, 2023 21:38
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Jewmanji posted:I don't know that Mother! is a particularly good analogy because that was marketed as a horror film from the get-go (from a director infamous for putting shocking material in his films). Maybe I'm misremembering the marketing campaign for that film. But it's not a subversive work that's playing on any particular tropes, it's simply a straightforward horror film (opinions about it notwithstanding). mother! was marketed (and very briefly) as a Rosemary's Baby type of thing that was going to pivot into torture porn. Instead it ended up being full on climate fiction and what reads like a gnostic repudiation of the worst traits of the human species but dolled up in pitch black comedy of errors. It absolutely is subversive and has had a significant downstream influence that can be found in numerous films made since 2017. And one of its only defenders at the time was Martin Scorsese lol
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BigglesSWE posted:Anywaaaayyyy how about some Barbie huh? Thank you for reminding me that I need to call my mushroom guy.
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May 25, 2023 22:05
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BigglesSWE posted:Anywaaaayyyy how about some Barbie huh? That looks like it could be fun. I'm really feeling Ken's himbo energy. Also, I'm glad they're keeping Quentin happy, that's nice of them.
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May 25, 2023 22:07
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I promise you they give the lowest of the low absolute dolt nepotism PA the subtitles job. It's time consuming and nobody checks it. I remember watching something and the character said he's my Rock of Gibraltar and the captions said "he's my rocka-j'balla"
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May 25, 2023 22:15
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At my old job we'd send transcriptions out to a little shop run and staffed by Vernon Wells (Road Warrior, Commando) and his wife. I have no idea if they're still in that business considering how little the studios want to pay for things like that anymore.
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May 25, 2023 22:27
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Megazver posted:That looks like it could be fun. This is how I feel. It could be good, but I'm not quite there yet.
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kiimo posted:I promise you they give the lowest of the low absolute dolt nepotism PA the subtitles job. It's time consuming and nobody checks it. Fun fact - the company I work for did the subtitling for the Barbie trailers. As for why it's looking all fucky in Teagone's screenshot is probably from something that happened after it left our hands.
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May 25, 2023 22:42
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Sorry I wasn't actually talking about trailers for once I was talking about scripted stuff so of course somebody in this thread was actually involved in the barbie trailer subtitling lol that's my luck for you
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May 25, 2023 22:59
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This shot in the trailer is completely shot to poo poo from compression. There's just too much color.
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kiimo posted:the character said he's my Rock of Gibraltar and the captions said "he's my rocka-j'balla" The captioner was just writing for his mates back in the UK.
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May 25, 2023 23:18
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Oddly getting some Vanilla Sky vibes from Barbie
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spanky the dolphin posted:This shot in the trailer is completely shot to poo poo from compression. There's just too much color. one weird trick to stop viewers illegally streaming your film the pirates don't want you to know!!
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:mother! was marketed (and very briefly) as a Rosemary's Baby type of thing that was going to pivot into torture porn. Instead it ended up being full on climate fiction and what reads like a gnostic repudiation of the worst traits of the human species but dolled up in pitch black comedy of errors. It absolutely is subversive and has had a significant downstream influence that can be found in numerous films made since 2017. And one of its only defenders at the time was Martin Scorsese lol Interesting. I was late to the film and wasn’t paying any attention to the discourse. What’s gnostic about it? I can see the climate change stuff, but the Gnosticism angle eludes me (sorry if this isn’t the right thread to get into gnostic readings of 10 year old horror films)
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I was wondering if the old lady on the park bench was a cameo by Barbara Handler (the daughter of the Barbie creator and the person the doll was named after, the 'real' Barbie) but after googling around it seems not. But they did show her an early cut of the film and she approved of it.
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Jewmanji posted:Interesting. I was late to the film and wasn’t paying any attention to the discourse. What’s gnostic about it? I can see the climate change stuff, but the Gnosticism angle eludes me (sorry if this isn’t the right thread to get into gnostic readings of 10 year old horror films) A lot of people focused on the readily apparent christian symbolism at the time as if it was a central aha! moment that the film had parable built in, but all that stuff goes by in a flash imo and is tangentially related (though pops up again near the end for an extremely literal depiction of spiritual cannibalism, the sacrifice of the young which in a climate fiction sense has its own significance). The epochs that the viewer is taken through dilate quite a bit as the movie comes to a close, speed up and go by quicker and quicker until the annihilation and the yielding of mother's love, and then a cyclical material rebirth always in the same template but always flawed. mother's a mesh of different archetypes but a big one is Sophia, the 'world-soul' in her dwelling place and creator of all living that subsequently descends into chaos... while 'Him' (Bardem) can fit into the clothes of demiurge, the craftsman/artisan or 'fashioner' of the physical universe...distinct from The Creator depending on which context is being discussed. This symbolism is cheeky in itself when used in such a cavalier way through black comedy and anxiety inducing camera work, but read as climate fiction it takes on a loving savage tone of condemnation which even if the audiences can't quite articulate they absolutely do feel. It was released shortly after Trump took office, a year and change before COVID, and at the time mother! felt to me like a clarion call in the face of climate doomerism, but first you have to get people to snap out of their normal and one way you can do that is by provoking anger. But also, in a way you have to trick people, too, which is pretty much what Aronofsky did here, just as with Noah. Anyways, aside from all that it's also just a cool example of a studio being tricked into funding and widely distributing something with the edges not yet sanded off, which was more common in the 70s (the movie does indeed nod to horror of that decade) but increasingly rare today.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:mother! was marketed (and very briefly) as a Rosemary's Baby type of thing that was going to pivot into torture porn. Instead it ended up being full on climate fiction and what reads like a gnostic repudiation of the worst traits of the human species but dolled up in pitch black comedy of errors. It absolutely is subversive and has had a significant downstream influence that can be found in numerous films made since 2017. And one of its only defenders at the time was Martin Scorsese lol Which films?
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Open Source Idiom posted:Which films? Beau is Afraid, Uncut Gems, Midsommar, Mandy, Vox Lux, Sorry To Bother You, The Beach Bum, Hereditary, Climax, Waves, Titane, Lamb, Men, Everything Everywhere All At Once, ummm I dunno, off the top of my head those are the movies I think about, lots of A24 stuff
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:A lot of people focused on the readily apparent christian symbolism at the time as if it was a central aha! moment that the film had parable built in, but all that stuff goes by in a flash imo and is tangentially related (though pops up again near the end for an extremely literal depiction of spiritual cannibalism, the sacrifice of the young which in a climate fiction sense has its own significance). The epochs that the viewer is taken through dilate quite a bit as the movie comes to a close, speed up and go by quicker and quicker until the annihilation and the yielding of mother's love, and then a cyclical material rebirth always in the same template but always flawed. mother's a mesh of different archetypes but a big one is Sophia, the 'world-soul' in her dwelling place and creator of all living that subsequently descends into chaos... while 'Him' (Bardem) can fit into the clothes of demiurge, the craftsman/artisan or 'fashioner' of the physical universe...distinct from The Creator depending on which context is being discussed. Thanks for the effort post! It’s a bit over my head I guess. My exposure to Gnosticism is pretty much limited to VALIS and Wikipedia.
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Jewmanji posted:Thanks for the effort post! It’s a bit over my head I guess. My exposure to Gnosticism is pretty much limited to VALIS and Wikipedia.  VALIS is kind of awesome. Poor PKD
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Beau is Afraid, Uncut Gems, Midsommar, Mandy, Vox Lux, Sorry To Bother You, The Beach Bum, Hereditary, Climax, Waves, Titane, Lamb, Men, Everything Everywhere All At Once, ummm I dunno, off the top of my head those are the movies I think about, lots of A24 stuff Oh yeah, that's interesting. I've seen quite a few of those (and though I've never seen Mother! I've been meaning to get around to it). How would you say that these films were specifically influenced by Mother!, rather than just being influenced by the material influences and general vibe of the last six years or so? Also sorry if this sounds like I'm giving you the third degree here, I've honestly never heard this argument before and I'd be keen to see more of your thinking.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Oh yeah, that's interesting. I've seen quite a few of those (and though I've never seen Mother! I've been meaning to get around to it). Sometimes my feeling is just that they're thematically similar (like The Beach Bum is an impossibly dark satire about our current civilization's breakdown dressed as a carefree buddy romp), but often enough the cinematography is key, like the sort of rhythmic descents into madness that happen in Climax or Waves at various intervals, or the distracting too-much-at-once editing style and noise assault of Uncut Gems and EEAAO. Sometimes it's just my feeling about how chamber drama tension is constructed and employed in a film, or how a character's facial expressions are charted endlessly in close-ups as psychological stress is continually ratcheted, or if a film just goes off the deep end in the last 20 minutes like Men. Beau is Afraid spends its first hour flirting with the structure of mother!'s last hour, just an endless comedy of errors and series of progressing anxieties building up in humor and horror, though I don't think it has the stones to actually pull an elegant film out of the mix and instead just gets lost in the exercise.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Sometimes my feeling is just that they're thematically similar (like The Beach Bum is an impossibly dark satire about our current civilization's breakdown dressed as a carefree buddy romp), but often enough the cinematography is key, like the sort of rhythmic descents into madness that happen in Climax or Waves at various intervals, or the distracting too-much-at-once editing style and noise assault of Uncut Gems and EEAAO. Sometimes it's just my feeling about how chamber drama tension is constructed and employed in a film, or how a character's facial expressions are charted endlessly in close-ups as psychological stress is continually ratcheted, or if a film just goes off the deep end in the last 20 minutes like Men. Beau is Afraid spends its first hour flirting with the structure of mother!'s last hour, just an endless comedy of errors and series of progressing anxieties building up in humor and horror, though I don't think it has the stones to actually pull an elegant film out of the mix and instead just gets lost in the exercise. Thanks, yeah. I'm not entirely convinced, but it's absolutely something to think about. Also thanks for drawing my attention to Waves and The Beach Bum, two films that dipped under my radar. Appreciate it.
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So many of my friends are absolutely obsessed with seeing barbie so I guess some kind of psychology is working.
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kanonvandekempen posted:Casting will ferrel in that role only reminds me how much i enjoyed the lego movie and how derivative this seems Yeah, doesn’t help. I’m not very fond of Ferrel to begin with so can’t say I’m too excited for whatever his plot will be.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Thanks, yeah. I'm not entirely convinced, but it's absolutely something to think about. For sure. Yeah, I don't want to be taken as an authority or whatever. Just  ing to It's good to sort through my memory of the last 5 years since covid seemingly put such a huge gap into it
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Punkin Spunkin posted:So many of my friends are absolutely obsessed with seeing barbie so I guess some kind of psychology is working. I'd rather gnaw off my own leg than watch the Barbie movie, but I appreciate what they're trying to with the aesthetic.
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Lobok posted:The captioner was just writing for his mates back in the UK. Epic bants fam.
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