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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Guavanaut posted:

Yes, but surprisingly didn't compromise himself with enough pigs or cows.



man if ever i wanted to go back in time and reverse a skip lorry at high speed into something, that's high on the list

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

crispix posted:

plays the same gormless big streak of piss (david schwimmer) in every drat thing he's in

Nah he's a different kind of gormless in Band of Brothers, and it works. gently caress you Sobel you petty prick

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Tesseraction posted:

Larry David had a lot of life experience that let him make the show work as well as it did.

that and he's just naturally very good at comedy

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Back in the late 90s, I remember Channel 4 had a friday night comedy block that they advertised as such, which contained Friends and Frasier.

Except Cybill was also shown between the episodes of Friends and Frasier but somehow wasn't part of the advertised comedy block even though it's also a comedy and if you just left the TV on after Friends you'd get to that before Frasier? It was really odd, unless it was some weird thing where to get Friends and Frasier they had to advertise them that way, who knows. I liked Cybill more than Friends tbh.

dharma and greg :cripes:

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Gorn Myson posted:

The Pythons developed a method of taking something quite high brow and then deliberately making it really silly. Like throwing out the question "German or Greek philosophers?" and then answering it with a football match. Or the guy who rejects the whole concept of monarchy in the Holy Grail. Or the scene with Michael Palin casually and delightfully asking "Crucifixion?" to a queue in Holy Grail, finally ending up with Eric Idle trying to blag his way out of punishment.

CookdnBombd was definitely overdramatic back in the day (especially with the footlights stuff, I remember them raging about some small documentary that featured a young Richard Ayoade and Matt Holness and I just didn't get it) but the Boosh has none of the staying power that Monty Python does because its just wacky shite. Python absolutely has its problems and I fully expect that for a comedy group thats nearly 60 years old, but they were vastly better than the Boosh ever was.

Actually I will say one thing I struggled with recently; Third Rock from the Sun. I got this idea in my head to revist that from the beginning and almost every single gag in the first episode was just making fun of a character for being a woman. Not only were the gags lazy, but there were so many of them.

I'm not sure anyone involved with The Mighty Boosh would say they were in the same league as Python. Well, maybe Noel Fielding, he does seem like a cock. I dunno, I think the LOLRANDOM nature of Boosh was over-stated. There's an element of it, but there's still an internal logic to it all, for the most part anyway. Though I haven't watched anything but the first season when they were at the zoo in a long time. It's not the greatest comedy show ever, & it's a long way from perfect, but it makes me laugh more than Friends ever did. Even if hearing about Old Gregg gives me flashbacks to Donington Park & Download Festival '06 where someone near where I was camping kept yelling "I'VE GOT A MANGINA" all loving night long & I wanted to murder them.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

crispix posted:

man if ever i wanted to go back in time and reverse a skip lorry at high speed into something, that's high on the list

But think of all the hapless worlds that are now depending on this shower to save them once they've been isekaied in.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

crispix posted:

dharma and greg

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






forkboy84 posted:

I'm not sure anyone involved with The Mighty Boosh would say they were in the same league as Python. Well, maybe Noel Fielding, he does seem like a cock. I dunno, I think the LOLRANDOM nature of Boosh was over-stated. There's an element of it, but there's still an internal logic to it all, for the most part anyway. Though I haven't watched anything but the first season when they were at the zoo in a long time. It's not the greatest comedy show ever, & it's a long way from perfect, but it makes me laugh more than Friends ever did. Even if hearing about Old Gregg gives me flashbacks to Donington Park & Download Festival '06 where someone near where I was camping kept yelling "I'VE GOT A MANGINA" all loving night long & I wanted to murder them.
I disagree with all of this, especially the idea that Boosh being random was overstated because they've had no staying power as a comedy group so the only people still saying that are ageing millennials going "do you remember this?".

But I'd also say Noel Fielding redeemed himself by being awesome on Taskmaster. I still won't watch Bake Off because of him, but he was incredible on TM.

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
Sewing bee is better than bake off now anyway

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i think they're both shite tbh :)

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


I only 'got' season 2 of Boosh, that remains great.1 and 3 just seemed mean and bad-weird.

Best comedy from that around (or just before?) that era remains Jam partially because the music was just so good. Chris Morris (or his music director?) should just release yearly mixes if nothing else.

Snuff Box remains oddly hypnotic. Not all of the sketches work but many do and if I watch one I'm compelled to watch the whole thing still

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
The Office is arguably the best sitcom of all time and that’s a hill I will defend to the death.

I think I got away with it BUT I DONT AGREE WITH THAT IN THE WOORRKKPLACCCEEEE

Kevino07
Oct 16, 2008

Gorn Myson posted:

CookdnBombd was definitely overdramatic back in the day (especially with the footlights stuff, I remember them raging about some small documentary that featured a young Richard Ayoade and Matt Holness and I just didn't get it) but the Boosh has none of the staying power that Monty Python does because its just wacky shite. Python absolutely has its problems and I fully expect that for a comedy group thats nearly 60 years old, but they were vastly better than the Boosh ever was.


I'm going to pretend that this is referring to Darkplace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECGKcl4s-k

EDIT: Should probably link one of the documentary parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVpaPFTWuS0

Kevino07 fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jun 14, 2023

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Jakabite posted:

The Office is arguably the best sitcom of all time and that’s a hill I will defend to the death.

I think I got away with it BUT I DONT AGREE WITH THAT IN THE WOORRKKPLACCCEEEE

series one was really good and well observed comedy but series two and the christmas special was the beginning of Ricky Gervais stretching credibility too far, a trajectory that would end with him disappearing completely up his own rectum and producing Derek from therein

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
gervaise.cx

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Kevino07 posted:

I'm going to pretend that this is referring to Darkplace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECGKcl4s-k

EDIT: Should probably link one of the documentary parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVpaPFTWuS0
Marenghi's book is amazing if you haven't read it. Theres a sex scene in there where the prose is perfectly terrible. I don't want to spoil any detail.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat

Payndz posted:

They shot extra scenes for at least two other episodes during the one I saw filmed, and I know they did reshoots for that because David Schwimmer and Matthew Perry were absent. (Memory's fuzzy, but I think they shot Perry's scenes with a double and cut in his closeups later, and Schwimmer had a subplot where he wasn't with the rest of the gang so could be filmed another day.)

How does this work as an audience member? Surely the whole thing seems disjointed? You're seeing scenes from differently episodes entirely with no context and the episode you're actually watching may have scenes missing due to being filmed on location or actors being missing. Does the warm-up guy fill in the blanks or just read the script to you?

DaWolfey
Oct 25, 2003

College Slice

I will always maintain that show is the darkest most cynical thing he's ever done, laughing to himself every time the innocent simpleton Derek does something lovable, crying with laughter as he writes yet another schmaltzy bullshit heartwarming scene of Derek giving a pretty girl a flower and she decides to find it sweet and not creepy because he's so unthreatening, or a dog dies and he doesn't quite understand, knowing full well the audience are just eating up his wretched manipulative bullshit.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Yeah given that The Office and Extras are the only good things he’s done, it’s pretty clear that it’s Merchant who’s the genius writer.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


crispix posted:

series one was really good and well observed comedy but series two and the christmas special was the beginning of Ricky Gervais stretching credibility too far, a trajectory that would end with him disappearing completely up his own rectum and producing Derek from therein

God, the movie. The worst thing was the script was almost salvageable, like if he'd shown the slightest character development and sacrificed for Doc Brown's character, which it kind of look liked where it was going. But no, David Brent was right all along and should be respected for it and also he gets the girl.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
I remember black books being really good. But I'm afraid to watch it again cos... Well you know.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/SarahO_Connell/status/1668990879632093188

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Just remembered who I find seriously unfunny but all my friends seem to love: Miranda.
Her one joke seems to be look at me I'm big and awkward but bloke asked me out. And all the audience go "ahhhh*. That's it. Her whole joke.
Kinda like how big bang theory completely exhausted the "we're geeks who can't get a girl" thing by season 8.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
smack the pony and big train were my go-to's


Mega Comrade posted:

I remember black books being really good. But I'm afraid to watch it again cos... Well you know.

it holds up fairly well, just a wince or two, about half a spaced's worth

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Fatty posted:

How does this work as an audience member? Surely the whole thing seems disjointed? You're seeing scenes from differently episodes entirely with no context and the episode you're actually watching may have scenes missing due to being filmed on location or actors being missing. Does the warm-up guy fill in the blanks or just read the script to you?
IIRC the warm-up guy gave just enough context that you knew the gist of what was going on, but it was still a weird experience. Sometimes it would be like half a scene because they were only reshooting one character's lines, with stand-ins delivering the rest of the dialogue.

They were also the last things shot in the day (which as I said, was looooong - shooting started about 3pm and the day I was there went on until after 11, but could sometimes run well after midnight), so everyone was tired and just wanting it to be over. Audience members can't just up and leave when they've had enough because that would involve individual people being escorted through the studio lot by security - once it starts, you're in there until the end.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Kinda like how big bang theory completely exhausted the "we're geeks who can't get a girl" thing by season 8.
But they did a whole spin-off with original ideas like "we're young geeks who can't get a girl".

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I think the spinoff was the breakout character who is depicted as entirely uninterested in women for a lot of the show, going to school moreso than the same thing but the cast is younger. The premise seemed pretty different from what I could tell, still poo poo of course. Unless they did do another spinoff about the group first meeting or some poo poo. That seems very possible and I ain't looking it up.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


If we're talking British comedies of yesteryear then Green Wing will always be one of my absolute favourites. Some level of yikes in a 2023 re-watch as with pretty much any show unfortunately but the good stuff is just stellar, Mark Heap and Michelle Gomez managing to stand out in an impressively strong field.

e: Black Books also very good, I think really you can trust most things that have Tamsin Grieg in for whatever reason. Which leads me to Friday Night Dinner (also featuring Mark Heap) which was very good for a number of years, and then I think about the other works of Robert Popper including Look Around You and one of my recent favourites Stath Lets Flats.

Following chains of actors/writers through comedy shows is fun, sometimes it's nice to have a relatively small scene.

e2: And of course Tamsin Grieg (and Stephen Mangan too) were in Episodes with Matt Le Blanc, which takes us neatly back to where we started!

sebzilla fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jun 14, 2023

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

sebzilla posted:

If we're talking British comedies of yesteryear then Green Wing will always be one of my absolute favourites. Some level of yikes in a 2023 re-watch as with pretty much any show unfortunately but the good stuff is just stellar, Mark Heap and Michelle Gomez managing to stand out in an impressively strong field.

e: Black Books also very good, I think really you can trust most things that have Tamsin Grieg in for whatever reason. Which leads me to Friday Night Dinner (also featuring Mark Heap) which was very good for a number of years, and then I think about the other works of Robert Popper including Look Around You and one of my recent favourites Stath Lets Flats.

Following chains of actors/writers through comedy shows is fun, sometimes it's nice to have a relatively small scene.

e2: And of course Tamsin Grieg (and Stephen Mangan too) were in Episodes with Matt Le Blanc, which takes us neatly back to where we started!

Tamsin Grieg is Shula Archer in the Archers
Bane of my existence since I was born and in the parental home. Twice a day every day for decades.
Tum ti tum ti tum ti tum tum ti tum ti tum tum.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
Just wanted to say, thanks for the fudge camrath! The pretzel stuff is fun, you bite into it then suddenly hit a piece of pretzel rebar it's like fudge on the bone, loved it.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Just remembered who I find seriously unfunny but all my friends seem to love: Miranda.
Her one joke seems to be look at me I'm big and awkward but bloke asked me out. And all the audience go "ahhhh*. That's it. Her whole joke.
Kinda like how big bang theory completely exhausted the "we're geeks who can't get a girl" thing by season 8.
Same with Jo Brand, I feel like I remember her being quite witty at one point but for a long time now her only two gags have been “I’m fat cos I like biscuits” and “my husband!!”

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
men!!!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
behaving badly

Chubby Henparty posted:

Is bottom right the Denise Richards episode
It's the last episode of season 7 iirc, where Elaine suggests he starts smoking to get Susan to break of the engagement.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Wait hang on a second

Payndz posted:

Can verify, was in it once. (I was a journalist at the time and Warners paid for me to fly to LA first class, which is the best job perk I've ever had.)

LA? Isn't the whole thing set in New York?

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




About to blow your mind right out of your head when you find out how much of TV and Film America is actually Canada

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

LA? Isn't the whole thing set in New York?
Set in NYC, filmed at the Warner Bros Ranch in California.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

I liked Drop the Dead Donkey. One of the clever things about it was how they had references to that week's news stories in it.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Tesseraction posted:

Wait hang on a second

LA? Isn't the whole thing set in New York?

My sweet summer child.

I went to a taping of an episode of That 70s show in Burbank, CA. I did not have to get a shuttle bus to Kenosha, WI

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I mean sure it's just that like

New York City has studios...

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cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
A lot of stuff is filmed in NYC nowadays because of tax breaks, but that wasn’t the case a couple decades ago.

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