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Jun 28, 2023 18:23
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Gnoman posted:Swiss policy is that they'll sell weapons in peacetime, but providing weapons to nation currently in a shooting war is taking a side, and Swiss policy is to never take sides. The Swiss could use the flimsy pretext of "on what grounds can Russia object? They have repeatedly said they are not at war" if they really wanted.
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Jun 28, 2023 18:28
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1674078134692356097 More mobik wailing about being thrown to the wolves with no gear and support, this time near Bakhmut.
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Jun 28, 2023 18:37
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:18 hour days for me, for 6 months. The Dick Sucking Factory thread is thattaway just kiiiiiidding
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Jun 28, 2023 18:39
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naem posted:Americans may love, love making fun of ourselves, our many flaws, and our own government’s seemly inept bureaucracy but our logistics are far and away the deadliest thing on the planet right now (for better or worse) Part of needing to cross the Atlantic or the Pacific to fight most of the wars in the last 100 years.
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Jun 28, 2023 18:43
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Flyinglemur posted:My first deployment to the Gulf I was a gunner on an amphibious assault ship, but we had plenty of air conditioning and good food after we dropped the Marines off. The subsequent deployments on submarines were much more tolerable Gunner on a submarine *does* sound pretty cushy.
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Jun 28, 2023 18:48
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Toxic Mental posted:The Dick Sucking Factory thread is thattaway 
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Jun 28, 2023 18:49
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If selling hotdogs again doesn't work out for him, he could always switch to selling tamales or something https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1674081289228414976 Impossible for you to abandon it? What if Ukraine makes you abandon it, Sergei? zone fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Jun 28, 2023 18:53
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Gnoman posted:Swiss policy is that they'll sell weapons in peacetime, but providing weapons to nation currently in a shooting war is taking a side, and Swiss policy is to never take sides. The lesson we, and every buyer of Swiss military equipment, are learning. Is that during a war the Swiss will stop selling you spare parts. Because neutrality. And now there's some buyers regret.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:04
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The biggest task they set at the beginning was regime change in kiev. Anything less than that is a clear failure of their stated objectives so they have a long way to go, imo. Not looking very promising.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:04
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Sashimi posted:lmao Shoigu's a weeb Dr. Quarex posted:Accuse him of war crimes all you want but he IS Tuvan and that looks Tuvan enough for government work Sashimi posted:I'll take your word for it as someone who knows nothing about Tuvan architecture or culture. A quick note on this, "traditional" Tuvan houses aren't really distinguishable from regular Russian houses, because prior to the Sayan gold rush in the 1880s, the Turkic Tuvan people were largely nomadic pastoralists and lived in yurts, which they called ög. The few permanent structures built by Turco-Mongolian peoples before the arrival of the Russians were mainly Buddhist temples and monasteries, mostly patterned on Chinese and Tibetan traditions following the Mongol conquest of China and subsequent introduction of Buddhism to the Mongol empire. There's really not much traditionally Tuvan in Shoigu's house. Most likely he's just a massive sinaboo.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:05
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Can you believe the perfidious US, always wanting to implement regime change to further their hegemony. Wait, WHAT?
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Jun 28, 2023 19:05
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Rahu posted:The biggest task they set at the beginning was regime change in kiev. Anything less than that is a clear failure of their stated objectives so they have a long way to go, imo. Not looking very promising. Zelenskyy would've been out after this election if they didn't start their stupid operation lol.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:09
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ishikabibble posted:The MIC are absolutely profit driven, but a lot of the cost comes in the US DoD acquisition side of things requiring extensive documentation on basically every aspect of how a thing was made to ensure it was made following the proper specs and manufacturing processes so it will perform as its supposed to, in addition to making sure the company itself and the supply chain they use is safe from any kind of espionage, sabotage, or general issues in a time of war. I can’t disagree, but for clarification I meant more the usefulness in large scale war than the manufacture quality. This conflict will give a lot of insights though. An example from the top of my head are the usefulness of the F-16 compared to JAS Gripen where the former is technically better, but the latter can be deployed anywhere with a 200 meter straight road and serviced by a crew of 6 hiding somewhere in a camping trailer in the forest I’m not sure in comparisons to French, British and German weapons that US weapons would be so much better except on paper
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Jun 28, 2023 19:12
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Rahu posted:The biggest task they set at the beginning was regime change in kiev. Anything less than that is a clear failure of their stated objectives so they have a long way to go, imo. Not looking very promising. In 2 years, when all territory is recaptured, an election in Ukraine is actually held and Zelenskyy doesn't run, they'll declare victory as soon as the new president is sworn in. "Westoid democracy loses again, Putin lasted longer!"
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Jun 28, 2023 19:15
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mobby_6kl posted:Zelenskyy would've been out after this election if they didn't start their stupid operation lol. That's the funny thing, yeah. Zelenskyy basically became a Ukrainian Churchill; a middling peacetime leader that most people weren't very excited or fond of, then metamorphosising into a wartime juggernaut that has since rallied something like 90% of the public to his side going by his latest approval ratings. He was what Ukraine needed when they needed it, and if he steps aside after the war he will very likely go down in Ukrainian history as one of their most important leaders.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:23
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Anders posted:I can’t disagree, but for clarification I meant more the usefulness in large scale war than the manufacture quality. This conflict will give a lot of insights though. I think you'll find that no aircraft restricted to a 200 meter runway gets its full combat effectiveness, and no turbine aircraft (especially military) tolerates lack of spares or maintenance for long. it's cool that they can do it at all, but if you're employing that capability you're losing. Ukraine hasn't even run out of airbases in this conflict. The West broadly certainly wouldn't.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:23
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:There's really not much traditionally Tuvan in Shoigu's house. Most likely he's just a massive sinaboo. Sergey sighed as he drew his jian...
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Jun 28, 2023 19:32
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and c'mon no way an F-16 beats a Gripen, there's like a 25 year age gap between the designs....
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Jun 28, 2023 19:36
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Anders posted:Lol, letting Russian backed neo-nazis sabotage their own geopolitical goals is peak I wonder how conflicted the acab-left is in Sweden right now?
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Jun 28, 2023 19:38
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Honestly, probably not at all. I'm more surprised that you actually need to get a permit to do it.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:39
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DandyLion posted:and c'mon no way an F-16 beats a Gripen, there's like a 25 year age gap between the designs.... Especially the latest version of the Gripen has the cool 360 camera system that constantly monitors everything going on around it.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:39
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Those jokes about Surovikin and that other general recording messages in a locked room may not have been jokes https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1674100048911532042?t=YSQImXmtiDKUa8IpKbSUrg&s=19 https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1674102629012471818?t=f0pYzNW3gx3LJPdF9Z4ACQ&s=19
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Jun 28, 2023 19:42
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ishikabibble posted:The phrase 'good enough for government work' used to actually mean something that was extremely well made because of that. There are probably hundreds of thousands of specs that are still in active use that were formerly created by the US government and were then handed off to non-government standards organizations.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:46
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DandyLion posted:and c'mon no way an F-16 beats a Gripen, there's like a 25 year age gap between the designs.... Tom Cruise is in the F-16. Checkmate Gripen.
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Jun 28, 2023 19:55
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Tom Cruise is in the F-16. Checkmate Gripen. talk to me goose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJELGSWubzI
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Jun 28, 2023 20:01
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DandyLion posted:and c'mon no way an F-16 beats a Gripen, there's like a 25 year age gap between the designs.... Somewhere Aatrex feels a chill run down his back.
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Jun 28, 2023 20:04
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Oldsmobile posted:I wonder how conflicted the acab-left is in Sweden right now? The integrity to say "I oppose this use of power and consider it illegitimate, even when it is used against my most bitter political enemies" is staggeringly rare in general. And from the kind of people who simply can't wait to "punch a Nazi"? Lmao.
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Jun 28, 2023 20:05
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Jun 28, 2023 20:18
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HonorableTB posted:Those jokes about Surovikin and that other general recording messages in a locked room may not have been jokes Gerashenko has a good "Russia might collapse or is collapsing alread" sticky: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1674077790432374794 quote:Is Ukraine ready for Russia's collapse?
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Jun 28, 2023 20:38
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Roman Reigns posted:Wow I figured support for the war would steadily decrease as war fatigue sets in. Speaking purely as a swede, there's absolutely no "war fatigue" here. 1) It's not our guys dying. 2) The money and equipment going to Ukraine has zero impact on ordinary swedes. 3) We are really, really tired of Russia's poo poo. Like, we've spent 300 years at war or preparing for war with Russia. Then after the fall of the USSR everyone thought things would chill out. We traveled to Russia. We traded with Russia. Hell, we held joint military exercises with Russia. And Russia kept loving with us. Subs in our waters, planes in our sky and spies all over the place. Russians buying up land near sensitive military installations. We tried to be good neighbors, and we got shat on. So the general mood here is "Go Ukraine! gently caress them up!"
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Jun 28, 2023 20:44
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Moscow Times now also reporting on the arrest of Surovikin, citing sources in the MoD. https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/06/28/istochniki-v-minoboroni-soobschayut-ob-areste-generala-surovikina-a47384
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Jun 28, 2023 20:53
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Rust Martialis posted:Gunner on a submarine *does* sound pretty cushy. No, no too cramped. No sun. Gunner on a Zumwalt is the way to go. Those Advanced Gun Systems need close attention.
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Jun 28, 2023 20:54
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beer_war posted:Moscow Times now also reporting on the arrest of Surovikin, citing sources in the MoD. holy poo poo that the goon theories were right
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Jun 28, 2023 20:58
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beer_war posted:Moscow Times now also reporting on the arrest of Surovikin, citing sources in the MoD. I realize it's a direct translation but "he was grabbed by the eggs" really adds a nice texture. A real "welp".
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Jun 28, 2023 21:05
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Well that would explain why Prigozhin was cocky enough to do it, if other generals were going to go to his side Also explains the awkward video of Surovikin telling prigozhin to back down In summary, LMFAO thoughts and prayers
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Jun 28, 2023 21:22
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Mr. Sunshine posted:Speaking purely as a swede, there's absolutely no "war fatigue" here. This is all western propaganda. Russia is innocent
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Jun 28, 2023 21:23
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SLOSifl posted:"In the context of Prigozhin. Apparently, he [Surovikin] chose the side of [Prigozhin during the rebellion] and he was grabbed by the eggs," said the second source. sometimes even in the deepest end of rear end, in the poo poo itself, you still get grabbed by the eggs HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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Jun 28, 2023 21:24
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Russia was attacked by the West’s epic finger wave psychic damage
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Jun 28, 2023 21:25
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So did Putin smell dissent in the air and have Prigozhin do a false flag coup so he could round up any collaborators? If so lol
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