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Xaris posted:what comes next after wide swaths of the masses are deemed useless for profit is ??????????? 
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Jul 3, 2023 10:22
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Hmm, If I had to spend 6-8 hours in the office for culture and patience, I might ask the hiring manager (Harsh) to engage in honorable combat. I see your kirpan, let's rock buddy.
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Jul 3, 2023 10:28
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Jel Shaker posted:isn’t the usual answer neo-feudalism, except with rome supplanted by AI god and the pope being peter thiel that's not saying the need for labor has gone away, much of it is still required to keep the system lubricated, but a lot of it isn't needed anymore and it was largely the big dominance of a service economy that masked it. likewise the labor that is still needed is not being compensated and that labor already can't procure more than the absolute necessities (if even that) and definitely declining access to circuses/treats. but maybe. for a lot of people that would be a substantial improvement over their status quo to sign away their life/organs working for costco compound #69690 in exchange for a guaranteed on-site dorm room and 3x rob reinehart soylent slop meals a day. there's still a big gap between now and that
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Jul 3, 2023 10:33
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Xaris posted:arguably america has always been a plutonomy, that's not new. we've heading far beyond the event horizon of the planar coordinates that once defined plutonomy into something worse. where the system once needed the labor of the masses to generate wealth, wide swaths of masses and much labor itself is now irrelevant to generating wealth as the transition to fully fictious finance capital economy has subsumed it. the transition to a service economy in the 80s-90s was a preceding component, but even now the service economy is largely negligible for profit seeking and much less labor is needed to cater to a small segment of the whales from whom the profit now flows an economy can never be fully fictitious or financial. the transition to a service economy reflected the imperial core bourgeoisie's striving for material independence of the local proletariat through leveraging labor in the periphery, as far as possible reducing imperial core labor to non-critical functions such that they could not threaten the system's stability by withholding labor anymore. its contribution is supposed to be negligible; this was a central element of the wholly decentralized economic relations produced under cybernetic capitalism. as of covid, that's been ending. as the imperial core increasingly loses its hold on the periphery, the core bourgeoisie correspondingly becomes forced to increasingly rely on the local proletariat again, which is why they're bringing home the oppressive measures once reserved for the periphery. the machinery will do whatever it can to maintain stability of the system. it will do so by a kind of verticalization of the current horizontal structure, i.e., a smaller system that presses down on the local proletariat rather than co-opting it as well paid office workers administrating the machinery which exploits the periphery, and it will be worse for american and european workers, who will experience intensified exploitation and worsening material conditions, but potentially better for the periphery.
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Jul 3, 2023 10:44
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:NVIDIA has you covered i dont need this i need a way to record myself sitting looking at the camera and then play it on seamless loop as a virtual camera w/ AI to lipsync it. then I can just not even be facing the work laptop
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Jul 3, 2023 11:03
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"hmm i'm having connection issues, gonna turn my camera off"
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Jul 3, 2023 11:13
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Zodium posted:an economy can never be fully fictitious or financial. the transition to a service economy reflected the imperial core bourgeoisie's striving for material independence of the local proletariat through leveraging labor in the periphery, as far as possible reducing imperial core labor to non-critical functions such that they could not threaten the system's stability by withholding labor anymore. its contribution is supposed to be negligible; this was a central element of the wholly decentralized economic relations produced under cybernetic capitalism. as of covid, that's been ending. as the imperial core increasingly loses its hold on the periphery, the core bourgeoisie correspondingly becomes forced to increasingly rely on the local proletariat again, which is why they're bringing home the oppressive measures once reserved for the periphery. the machinery will do whatever it can to maintain stability of the system. it will do so by a kind of verticalization of the current horizontal structure, i.e., a smaller system that presses down on the local proletariat rather than co-opting it as well paid office workers administrating the machinery which exploits the periphery, and it will be worse for american and european workers, who will experience intensified exploitation and worsening material conditions, but potentially better for the periphery. I mean yeah but also if the american and european proletariat once again becomes important enough to be able to threaten the system's stability by withholding their labour...
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Jul 3, 2023 11:29
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Xaris posted:yeah probably a couple year window, but sooner the better as who knows what 2026 is gunna look like LOL would love to be this optimistic
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Jul 3, 2023 11:55
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Mr Hootington posted:Macron blames video games and social media for French riots It's Ubisoft's fault for making all those Watch Dogs video games where you fight the system. Solution: Close down Ubisoft.
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Jul 3, 2023 12:01
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"we made it too good, sorry"
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Jul 3, 2023 12:08
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Justin Tyme posted:*britishly to an american foreign student working at a university lab* this nonce dunno who oliver cromwell is lol, I live down the road from where that guy went to school and about an hour from his birth home. It’s an escape room now.
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Jul 3, 2023 12:22
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Oglethorpe posted:"we made it too good, sorry" yep
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Jul 3, 2023 12:23
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spine surgeons going to be in even high demand from all these people getting bulged discs/RSI from VR all day
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Jul 3, 2023 12:26
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Justin Tyme posted:*britishly to an american foreign student working at a university lab* this nonce dunno who oliver cromwell is the Irish you genocided over here make sure we know who Cromwell is
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Jul 3, 2023 12:30
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gradenko_2000 posted:someone mod Zoom to make it look like you're always looking at the camera even when you're actually looking off to the side posting I think Facetime is supposed to have this capability, so it seems doable
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Jul 3, 2023 12:31
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Cup Runneth Over posted:i dont need this i need a way to record myself sitting looking at the camera and then play it on seamless loop as a virtual camera w/ AI to lipsync it. then I can just not even be facing the work laptop this is also how they got the bad guy in speed
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Jul 3, 2023 12:33
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mawarannahr posted:I think Facetime is supposed to have this capability, so it seems doable conan o'brien did this like 20 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAdP15QjVYA&t=80s
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Jul 3, 2023 12:34
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i'm more sanguine about visiting europe as a tourist - it'll be doable for decades, just that there'll be tourist zones and sacrifice zones the USD goes a long way these days especially as the spread between US and ROTW salaries continues to widen - i still remember when people talked about the spread in terms of percentages between US and Europe but it's multiples now
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Jul 3, 2023 12:34
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mawarannahr posted:I think Facetime is supposed to have this capability, so it seems doable If you’re not a filthy poor, you could get Apple Vision Pro™ and scan someone else to act as your virtual FaceTime avatar. Maybe even another animal entirely. Not sure if this extends to the wanking thing, maybe that’s an unlockable in a later VisionOS version or something.
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Jul 3, 2023 12:38
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Xaris posted:
In the 1800s the British ruling class regarded large swathes of the poor as totally unproductive, so they either press ganged them into the Navy or put them into workhouses. Here's a quote from Losurdo's "Liberalism: a Counter-History": quote:Once they had entered workhouses, the poor ‘ceased to be citizens in any true sense of the word’, because they lost ‘the civil right of personal liberty’. And this was a radical loss: the ‘guardians’ of the workhouses had the discretional power of inflicting the corporal punishment deemed most fitting on inmates. and this was carried out, and was as bad as you would expect. I can definitely see some combo of this and favelas happening now in the US. (I've been reading that book on a rec from the Marx thread, it's pretty good. It's all about how it isn't really contradictory that all the early Liberals were slaveholders / British aristocrats: they prized freedom because it was what marked their caste as special, they didn't want to be "oppressed" by having somebody take away their slaves.)
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Jul 3, 2023 12:42
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animist posted:In the 1800s the British ruling class regarded large swathes of the poor as totally unproductive, so they either press ganged them into the Navy or put them into workhouses. Here's a quote from Losurdo's "Liberalism: a Counter-History": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65959508 Did someone say panopticon and British brutality?
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Jul 3, 2023 12:50
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There is no economic malaise that cannot be solved with a dash of good old fashioned slave labor.
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Jul 3, 2023 12:51
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animist posted:In the 1800s the British ruling class regarded large swathes of the poor as totally unproductive, so they either press ganged them into the Navy or put them into workhouses. Here's a quote from Losurdo's "Liberalism: a Counter-History": this helps further elucidate a saying that's been in my head for a while now, something like "all references to freedom and liberty in the constitution are referring to the freedom and liberty to own people". i forget who originally said it
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Jul 3, 2023 12:54
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animist posted:In the 1800s the British ruling class regarded large swathes of the poor as totally unproductive, so they either press ganged them into the Navy or put them into workhouses. the book White Trash has some good stuff on them doing this prior to the 1800's, only they were sending them to the American colonies instead. All of the vagrants, performers, etc. that had begun accumulating in urban areas were seen as "Waste People" because their potential as workers was being "wasted", so they were sent to work the "waste land" (not in the modern sense of uninhabitable, but good land that was being "wasted" by not being worked) of North America. For all the poo poo we give Australia for being a Prison Colony, America was basically a homeless colony if you weren't one of the ones coming here with a shitload of money in your pocket already.
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Jul 3, 2023 12:58
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that book also has some great passages about the origins of North Carolina as a place all of the Waste People would run away to because they'd rather live in an uncultivated swamp than work all day
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Jul 3, 2023 13:01
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Cup Runneth Over posted:i dont need this i need a way to record myself sitting looking at the camera and then play it on seamless loop as a virtual camera w/ AI to lipsync it. then I can just not even be facing the work laptop Being in front of a camera in a meeting spikes my anxiety in the same was as giving a speech. You can create easily create virtual cameras via software that 'hijack" your camera stream. So, I created some movie clips to play on loop that replaced my camera feed. I'd be talking and people would see Hugh Jackman dancing around the computer in the hacking scene from "Swordfish". You could do the same with recorded video of yourself.
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Jul 3, 2023 13:01
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:that book also has some great passages about the origins of North Carolina as a place all of the Waste People would run away to because they'd rather live in an uncultivated swamp than work all day Noone want to work...
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Jul 3, 2023 14:14
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Zodium posted:an economy can never be fully fictitious or financial. the transition to a service economy reflected the imperial core bourgeoisie's striving for material independence of the local proletariat through leveraging labor in the periphery, as far as possible reducing imperial core labor to non-critical functions such that they could not threaten the system's stability by withholding labor anymore. its contribution is supposed to be negligible; this was a central element of the wholly decentralized economic relations produced under cybernetic capitalism. as of covid, that's been ending. as the imperial core increasingly loses its hold on the periphery, the core bourgeoisie correspondingly becomes forced to increasingly rely on the local proletariat again, which is why they're bringing home the oppressive measures once reserved for the periphery. the machinery will do whatever it can to maintain stability of the system. it will do so by a kind of verticalization of the current horizontal structure, i.e., a smaller system that presses down on the local proletariat rather than co-opting it as well paid office workers administrating the machinery which exploits the periphery, and it will be worse for american and european workers, who will experience intensified exploitation and worsening material conditions, but potentially better for the periphery. the cool thing about this is that as the system becomes more localized it also becomes less abstract. its one thing to know about the mic and imperialism, it’s another to see cops with machine guns on the street corner. atlanta seems to be leading the way in transition.
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Jul 3, 2023 14:16
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manufacturing issues — getting an air of unattainability attached to those apple ski goggles is the absolute best thing that could happen to them. although google glass had that too didn’t it?
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Jul 3, 2023 14:26
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Xaris posted:arguably america has always been a plutonomy, that's not new. we've heading far beyond the event horizon of the planar coordinates that once defined plutonomy into something worse. where the system once needed the labor of the masses to generate wealth, wide swaths of masses and much labor itself is now irrelevant to generating wealth as the transition to fully fictious finance capital economy has subsumed it. the transition to a service economy in the 80s-90s was a preceding component, but even now the service economy is largely negligible for profit seeking and much less labor is needed to cater to a small segment of the whales from whom the profit now flows Re the enshittification stuff you were talking about before There are two big shopping areas here that just don't bother with landscaping anymore. They don't cut the grass, the shrubs in the medians were pulled out, etc. They're just letting that poo poo go wild, why spend to maintain it I guess.
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Jul 3, 2023 14:27
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Mr. Lobe posted:Noone want to work... White Trash posted:Things were different in Carolina. Just across the ill-defined border was an alien world where class authority was severely compromised. Byrd's little band of land commissioners were "knights-errant" embarked on a grand medieval crusade. When people emerged from their huts, staring as a flock at the strangers from Virginia, "it was as if we had been Morocco ambassadors." Having brought a chaplain along on their journey, they were able to christen children and marry men and women from place to place along their route. Byrd and his party of superior Christians sprinkled holy water on the heathen Carolinians.
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Jul 3, 2023 14:31
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i just love the idea of an English guy going an expedition to America to find out why No One Wants To Work Anymore
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Jul 3, 2023 14:33
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sullat posted:When I was in college there was a Polish guy who'd been there for 8 years. Rumor had it he was on some Polish academic scholarship that would pay him as long as it took. He was still there when I graduated. Wild stuff. RIP Henry, you were a cool, albeit smelly, person.
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Jul 3, 2023 14:33
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https://twitter.com/NickTimiraos/status/1675860718690738179?t=9bCbmZDkmnkJP4gCA4YJMQ&s=19 Tesla and rivian surging!
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Jul 3, 2023 14:45
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https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1675863258719305734?t=pqoI6KttjWuU4BS9IUq8dw&s=19
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Jul 3, 2023 14:56
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shrike82 posted:i'm more sanguine about visiting europe as a tourist - it'll be doable for decades, just that there'll be tourist zones and sacrifice zones what. the euro is almost always stronger than t6be dollar, its fucken expensive to visit most of europe. just spent 2 weeks in Italy. americans and our funbux arent poo poo
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Jul 3, 2023 15:15
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https://www.macrumors.com/2023/07/03/gurman-apple-monitor-smart-home-display/quote:Apple is working on a new external monitor for Macs that also functions as a kind of smart home display while not in use, according to Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman. stuff that displays on your monitor after it's not been used for a period of time. never heard of such a thing
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Jul 3, 2023 15:20
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triple sulk posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2023/07/03/gurman-apple-monitor-smart-home-display/ Apple brings back after dark
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Jul 3, 2023 15:28
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Ammanas posted:what. the euro is almost always stronger than t6be dollar, its fucken expensive to visit most of europe. just spent 2 weeks in Italy. americans and our funbux arent poo poo you're replying to shrike
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