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If you were meant to use the kerb, then the track would extend that far. QED
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 20:19 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 15:09 |
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Also it's not the racing line if you're going off track.
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 20:24 |
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Khablam posted:Making the sport about who can work out how to take the corner least wrong is dumb and it's why the stewards put their note it has to change. I'm sorry but isn't this what racing is? Make it a drag race then.
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 20:26 |
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also, football pitches should have a steep cliff right outside the touch line to discourage any player from ever taking a foot out of bounds
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 20:38 |
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Khablam posted:
They took the kurbs out in turn 9&10 in 2020 because teams complained that hitting it so often was ruining their cars https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/kerbs-removed-austria-spares-headache/4821231/
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 20:54 |
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put big piles of pillows and microfiber towels there so the cars are cushioned & cleaned while making the turns
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:02 |
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Khablam posted:e.g. in Austria you're actually meant to use that kerb, but the white line is before the kerb - if you use it and the car takes the quickest rotation where it goes widest in the middle, you will be out of bounds every time.
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:04 |
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Place a row of Dutch orphans just outside the white line. Either they play by the rules or we win.
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:10 |
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Khablam posted:The much better system was the Massi system, where they'd identify corners where people got too much advantage for running off and set a reasonable limit. Unfortunately his role was replaced with a rotating door of imbeciles so we get rules that fly in the face of logic. you've gone too far this time khablam
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:28 |
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they should bank the turns, and if you take it too wide you fly off into the distance
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:32 |
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The bits that fall off your car from hitting the kerbs too hard are given to other teams selected at random
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:40 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:Mclaren ugly thats a mirror
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:43 |
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Do an inverse of Formula E's attack mode. Line the track with transponders, and disable DRS and ERS deployment for 30 seconds if they leave the track. No, getting pushed wide or divebombed into the corner doesn't matter. Nuance doesn't exist.
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 21:44 |
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Personal Lucubrant posted:Do an inverse of Formula E's attack mode. Line the track with transponders, and disable DRS and ERS deployment for 30 seconds if they leave the track. just make it so leaving the track shuts the car off for safety
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 22:01 |
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Nybble posted:they should bank the turns, and if you take it too wide you fly off into the distance So install sausage kerbs?
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# ? Jul 3, 2023 22:43 |
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They should put groundhogs outside the kerbs.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 01:44 |
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If you no longer go over a line that is there, you're no longer a racing driver.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 02:05 |
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If you go over the line you have to pit and swap with your team principal for 2 laps.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 02:43 |
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if you go over the line it activates sprinklers in your car that spray water on your tires for 30 seconds
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 03:08 |
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Just do what street circuits did and put a wall at the track limits
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 07:22 |
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Starbucks posted:Just do what street circuits did and put a wall at the track limits the tire wall that ate chevrolets was a fine addition to the chicago loop
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 08:02 |
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TDepressionEarl posted:the tire wall that ate chevrolets was a fine addition to the chicago loop No it wasn't. If that wasn't there, there would've only been a thin wall stopping the track from being a figure 8. Talk about consequences for track limits. You lock up there, you're getting into a head-on collision.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 08:14 |
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Nybble posted:they should bank the turns, and if you take it too wide you fly off into the distance Also there should only two turns and they should be wide enough so that they can be taken without slowing down, the only acceptable corner radius.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 09:25 |
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Starbucks posted:Just do what street circuits did and put a wall at the track limits not everything should be a street circuit. also it's a bigger issue for motorcycles but having guardrails right up to the edge of the racing line happened a lot in the 1970s and bounced a lot of cars back onto the circuit into bigger wrecks. There's a reason run-off and gravel traps exist.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 09:34 |
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It's OK, we have the HALO to stop people being decapitated going under guard rails now
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 10:38 |
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"Just put a wall there / just make it gravel" is ignoring why we saw 1200+ violations or near-misses of this one corner, two orders of magnitude more than most race weekend's tally. You smooth brains should try reading my post again and actually understanding it.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 10:48 |
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:05 |
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Was Mercedes ever quite this dominant during Hamilton’s reign?
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:08 |
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More so than this, so people complaining about it are ofcourse Merc Fans - no joke it was literally "Oh it's been 4 laps and the backmarkers are being lapped already" for 6 seasons.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:11 |
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Rinkles posted:Was Mercedes ever quite this dominant during Hamilton’s reign? Yes. And further back other teams too. The entire field was less than a second in Austria. 30 years ago Senna was sometimes 2 seconds off pole and qualified 3rd.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:17 |
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Rinkles posted:Was Mercedes ever quite this dominant during Hamilton’s reign? 2014 was real dumb, yeah. but the difference is Hamilton and Rosberg were closer to 1a and 1b than anything since...hmm. Certainly since the 1990s. There's a reason Rosberg retired after winning in 2016 - he was shot mentally - and a reason why Bottas became the perfect partner to Hamilton - he was quick but wasn't a lead driver in the same way. [edit] the Schumacher Ferrari championships were never challenges in the way 2021 or earlier years for Hamilton were, Prost and Mansell in the Newey Williams were both absolute routs, 1988 of course, a few more. Two of Vettel's four were similar to this or last year. It happens. Khablam posted:"Just put a wall there / just make it gravel" is ignoring why we saw 1200+ violations or near-misses of this one corner, two orders of magnitude more than most race weekend's tally. yeah, the Masi/prior method of dealing with it was better - establishing trouble corners and penalizing harsher for them. the current method of treating every corner equally for the penalties really isn't working. I honestly don't mind that penalties are harsher race to race depending on the circuit, but this kind of rule is better applied with some degree of subjectivity (eg, going wide on turn 9/10 isn't the same as other corners and should be treated as such). harperdc fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Jul 4, 2023 |
# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:19 |
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I only started following F1 more closely around 2018. I just remember that occasionally another team would win.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:21 |
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Rinkles posted:I only started following F1 more closely around 2018. I just remember that occasionally another team would win. Generally because Hamilton and Rosberg drove into each other or had reliability issues because they had to drive 100% to beat the other. Like that Rosberg championship year. They lost 2 races. Spain because the idiots drove into each other, Malaysia because Hamilton's engine exploded while in the lead and Rosberg spun on lap 1. They won every other race. They qualified 1-2 for both the ones they didn't.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:27 |
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acidx posted:If you no longer go over a line that is there, you're no longer a racing driver. I can see and hear Horner saying this to the DTS camera so clearly in my mind, down to the dramatic pause in the middle.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 11:59 |
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Austria is bad
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 12:16 |
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Thanks Ants posted:Austria is bad Yes, it is. And the race track in Spielberg is, too
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 12:18 |
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Rinkles posted:Was Mercedes ever quite this dominant during Hamilton’s reign? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3UB1UCIge4 (if you can't watch it, they pull out a 7s gap in 2 laps, and it just gets worse from there) Mercedes would deliberately manage their pace even when Hamilton and Rosberg were racing each other. '17 saw some more competition, but they still beat a car whose engine was so roided out it was illegal, then it's only really '21 where there's any season-long competition at all. The most frustrating part for most viewers was even on weekends when it seemed like Merc had completely hosed the setup, they could just unwind some of their sandbags and suddenly be going 5-7tenths faster in Q3. All the while telling you "Oh man we are barely keeping ahead these guys are right with us honest"
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 12:18 |
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I think Williams could finish 7th this year
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 15:05 |
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There's no reason Ferrari can't win any of the remaining races
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 15:58 |
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Have you seen their pitwall
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 16:07 |