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SocksAndSandals posted:There's no reason Ferrari can't win any of the remaining races They're bad at strategy and even in 2023 get caught up with double-boxing, op
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Judge Schnoopy posted:They're bad at strategy and even in 2023 get caught up with double-boxing, op With 4+ second stops. That's the bit that kills me, they're all awful.
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2014-15-16 were especially poo poo because everyone’s engines just blew up all the time, at least this year there is something that resembles competition in the midfield
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Khablam posted:'14-'16 was a hardcore one-sided wash out that was so severe, that after this I agree with your overall point, but this isn't a super good example because faster cars are stuck behind the force indias in 3rd and 4th.
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There are probably better examples from the first 3 races - that aren't easily linkable on YT - but 5th was a very typical finishing position for Hulk that year so it's not like they were backmarkers. They are, ironically, in much the same position Merc are in now and there just aren't examples of Max having 2.5-3s a lap on them, or pulling 1s gap per straight.
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Perez got passed at least once this week in green flag conditions. Has max been passed yet this year?
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Bip Roberts posted:Perez got passed at least once this week in green flag conditions. Has max been passed yet this year? He's been passed in the first lap a few times this year.
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Khablam posted:There was lots of excellent racing throughout the field, all weekend frankly. it tracks that a crooked verstappen shagger is a big fan of illegal steward interference in race results.
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Perez battling for his life with Sainz while Max fucks off into the sunset is the funniest thing happening this season.
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I missed the footage of Hulk driving over his own tyre in the pits on the weekend what the gently caress happened there?
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Simplex posted:He's been passed in the first lap a few times this year. he's not great off the starting line but it doesn't even matter anymore
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Declan MacManus posted:he's not great off the starting line but it doesn't even matter anymore There's no point in risking anything on the starts
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Arc Hammer posted:I missed the footage of Hulk driving over his own tyre in the pits on the weekend what the gently caress happened there? he drove over his own tyre op
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Rinkles posted:Was Mercedes ever quite this dominant during Hamilton’s reign? Rinkles posted:I only started following F1 more closely around 2018. I just remember that occasionally another team would win. Khablam posted:'14-'16 was a hardcore one-sided wash out that was so severe, that after this
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Dicknosed Force Indias in P3/4, truly the worst era RIP Jules
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rpop posted:To counter this shitposting, even during the Mercedes domination years, someone else would eventually win by this point. Mercedes never managed to win the first 9 races in a row. lmao at taking anything khalbraindamage says seriously at this point.
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rpop posted:No, they weren't. Mercedes lost 3 races in all of 2014, and 2015 They lost 1 race in 2016 (and it's only because Hamilton tried to pull a Senna on Rosberg) 2017 - 2019 was the Ferrari cheat-fest but Merc still only lost between 6-8 races per year. They lost 3 races in 2020 Their dominance was real and some of the seasons were bleak. MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jul 5, 2023 |
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When Mercedes and Hamilton were winning it was cool and good, when the hated Red Bull win it is bad
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Thanks Ants posted:When Mercedes and Hamilton were winning it was cool and good, when the hated Red Bull win it is bad I started to get bored of Hamilton winning from 2017 onward.
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they both can be bad lmao
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tony quidtana posted:they both can be bad lmao You're right op, Lando should be winning more races.
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rpop posted:No, they weren't. The only race they didn't win in 2014 based on pace (excluding rare DNFs and the mercs shunting each other) was Hungary, where Merc hosed the strategy. Even so, there was a period in the last stint where Nico was ~3s a lap faster than anyone else.
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tony quidtana posted:they both can be bad lmao
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I would simply drive within the lines, much like coloring within the lines of a coloring book made for children. It suck it took so long for the stewards to dish out penalties but I heard they had to review hundreds of track limit incidents throughout the weekend. I suspect this weekend’s embarrassing number of incidents and penalties will serve as the warning (most) drivers need to keep it clean going forward.
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PhoenixFlaccus posted:I would simply drive within the lines, much like coloring within the lines of a coloring book made for children. It suck it took so long for the stewards to dish out penalties but I heard they had to review hundreds of track limit incidents throughout the weekend. I suspect this weekend’s embarrassing number of incidents and penalties will serve as the warning (most) drivers need to keep it clean going forward. have you ever driven a race car before? do you know how much time per lap you give up by not using maximum track? if others are doing it without being penalized and you stick to the rules, you are losing time 100%. this is about issuing warnings/penalties for track limits on time.
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Have they considered just calling them "track suggestions"? That should clear up some obvious confusion.
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confirmed good lad who means well lando norris managed to not get a pen for track limits
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Sunk Dunk posted:have you ever driven a race car before? do you know how much time per lap you give up by not using maximum track? if others are doing it without being penalized and you stick to the rules, you are losing time 100%. this is about issuing warnings/penalties for track limits on time. Yes. I’m aware that it’s slower to not break the rules. Everyone knew they were enforcing track limits during and after qualifying yet many continued to go over (Perez being particularly idiotic). We agree it sucks that penalties and warnings weren’t handed out faster but it was hard for stewards to keep up because the drivers were being particularly “well he did it too” this weekend. I’d be alright with automated systems although they still probably require some manual oversight; not sure exactly how those work in other series. Again, ideally the drivers learned their lesson after this weekend and it won’t be as much of an issue moving forward.
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Sunk Dunk posted:have you ever driven a race car before? do you know how much time per lap you give up by not using maximum track? if others are doing it without being penalized and you stick to the rules, you are losing time 100%. this is about issuing warnings/penalties for track limits on time. We already have the Dutch in this sport with their cranial structure creating the natural inclination to cheat. Isn't that bad enough?
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:confirmed good lad who means well lando norris managed to not get a pen for track limits im excited to see if the mclaren upgrades are the real deal
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the milk machine posted:im excited to see if the mclaren upgrades are the real deal same, Lando definitely has some affinity for the Red Bull Ring, it will be interesting to see how things shake up on other tracks and for Oscar
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Khablam posted:the absolute worst thing anyone could say about you is that you are a selfish moral blank, whose lazy cynicism and sneering ironic take on the world encapsulates everything wrong with a generation I would sooner watch the extended cut of Das Boot than any F1 race this season.
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When you could be watching Heat on DVD??
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PhoenixFlaccus posted:I suspect this weekend’s embarrassing number of incidents and penalties will serve as the warning (most) drivers need to keep it clean going forward. It’s a Red Bull Ring problem in particular. There were a lot of issues with deleted lap times during quali last year, and then this year they “improved” enforcement during the race which led to the ridiculousness.
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tony quidtana posted:I would sooner watch the extended cut of Das Boot than any F1 race this season. wow you'd rather watch a critically acclaimed riveting psychological thriller? shocking stuff
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smackfu posted:It’s a Red Bull Ring problem in particular. There were a lot of issues with deleted lap times during quali last year, and then this year they “improved” enforcement during the race which led to the ridiculousness. Turn ten was not kind.
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Cannon_Fodder posted:Turn ten was not kind. nearly every penalty was turn 9 or 10 I think lol
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