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Jul 22, 2023 22:28
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BornAPoorBlkChild posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1682112645405589505?t=JJ-JCQFRwuLvHrWuW6-HCA&s=19 finally Kevin is free
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Jul 22, 2023 22:28
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i did a bit of overtime and wanted to treat myself to red dead 2 and anno 1800(?) and i seem to have been forced to download two client launchers with separate login details for some reason, which i frequently forget the password for and which presumably i can never play off line both are pretty boring too, just open world poo poo without a compelling story like everything else
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Jul 22, 2023 22:31
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Vox Nihili posted:Mostly gas and rent. Consumer goods aren't especially high these days. Rent and energy are like 60% of my budget in this hell state, I live in a lovely 1br too!!!
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Jul 22, 2023 22:33
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Has any work ever been done to figure out how the fake unemployment figures are juked by Obama encouraging epic "side hustle" (which become sole means of barely surviving) jobs like doordash to proliferate or no
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Jul 22, 2023 22:34
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Jel Shaker posted:i did a bit of overtime and wanted to treat myself to red dead 2 and anno 1800(?) and i seem to have been forced to download two client launchers with separate login details for some reason, which i frequently forget the password for and which presumably i can never play off line rdr2 just made me want to go play TheHunt: Call of the Wild (an actually good hunting game) and call of juarez (an actually good wild west game)
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Jul 22, 2023 22:35
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Danann posted:tl;dr - A shockingly large number of people thought they could have all the socialist stuff like healthcare, housing, public transport, etc. with capitalist treats like 24/7 fruits and all the appliances. Probably because a lot of capitalist Western countries actually did have such basic public amenities at the time. The American hyper-austerity model is an ongoing project.
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Jul 22, 2023 22:36
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Danann posted:There's a shocking amount of naivete and romanticism that the pro-capitalist section of the populace found in the West: lol it makes me incredibly mad goddamn
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Jul 22, 2023 22:40
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It's really funny that people have apparently accepted the idea that tropical fruits are strictly gated behind capitalism. This is a stale artifact of the particular historical circumstances of the USSR and the Cold War rather than a universal truth.
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Jul 22, 2023 22:45
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Danann posted:tl;dr - A shockingly large number of people thought they could have all the socialist stuff like healthcare, housing, public transport, etc. with capitalist treats like 24/7 fruits and all the appliances. Wonder how much of that was due to propaganda they were fed through things like Radio Free Europe
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Jul 22, 2023 22:46
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Vox Nihili posted:It's really funny that people have apparently accepted the idea that tropical fruits are strictly gated behind capitalism. This is a stale artifact of the particular historical circumstances of the USSR and the Cold War rather than a universal truth. Where are people in Communist Cuba possibly going to get tropical fruit?
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Jul 22, 2023 22:49
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Theres a huge recession going on and the media wont talk about it because it would be good for trump (who is gauche)
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Jul 22, 2023 22:50
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Danann posted:There's a shocking amount of naivete and romanticism that the pro-capitalist section of the populace found in the West: To be somewhat fair the reverse is also true, I would venture a guess that say most online progressives that are already doing well off or come from p fortunate backgrounds don't really get that they're already receiving a larger cut than an equitable distribution would be, particularly on a global scale. The amount of "treats" we'd have to scale back on or how much work would be expected from people who are currently used to spending half an hour or so of emails then dicking around on their phone all day is probably a whole lot different then what is imagined.
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Jul 22, 2023 22:56
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Marenghi posted:Yeah discord has been implementing terrible subscription services to allow you to write longer messages, or use more server emojis. I'm amazed no other website has stolen Something Awful's best monetized feature, buying an avatar for your posting enemies
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Jul 22, 2023 23:04
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PoundSand posted:To be somewhat fair the reverse is also true, I would venture a guess that say most online progressives that are already doing well off or come from p fortunate backgrounds don't really get that they're already receiving a larger cut than an equitable distribution would be, particularly on a global scale. The amount of "treats" we'd have to scale back on or how much work would be expected from people who are currently used to spending half an hour or so of emails then dicking around on their phone all day is probably a whole lot different then what is imagined. I feel like if you're going to do socialism in the America it's extremely important that you do like, cooking training for basically everyone. I would guess that like 80-90% of people in the US have no idea how to cook food for themselves and wouldn't be able to deal with a reduced amount of goods available. They used to have home ec but that poo poo isn't real anymore
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Jul 22, 2023 23:09
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https://twitter.com/hacer_kun/status/1682561257327427584
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Jul 22, 2023 23:10
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Cost of doing business!
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Jul 22, 2023 23:11
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Frosted Flake posted:lol it makes me incredibly mad goddamn good thing the embargo means that luxury gay space capitalism isn't coming to cuba anytime soon
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Jul 22, 2023 23:24
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anonumos posted:You people ruined page 1083. What do you mean "you people"?
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Jul 22, 2023 23:27
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Grapplejack posted:I feel like if you're going to do socialism in the America it's extremely important that you do like, cooking training for basically everyone. I would guess that like 80-90% of people in the US have no idea how to cook food for themselves and wouldn't be able to deal with a reduced amount of goods available. They used to have home ec but that poo poo isn't real anymore if we were doing socialism in America, maybe we could do communal kitchens and cafeterias instead of everyone having to do it themselves in their own homes.
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Jul 22, 2023 23:29
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:One of his blood boys will likely poison their own blood just to take him out. transfusions are a stroke risk
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Jul 22, 2023 23:43
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Xaris posted:ehhh prices here used to be very inflated relative to the rest of america metros several years ago, probably peaking around 2016, but now all other major metro areas, or even second-third tier cities, are pretty much about 80%+ as expensive anyways This was my experience. 10+ years ago, when I lived downtown, going anywhere else in the USA was like visiting a foreign country and having a favorable exchange rate. These days prices have blown up everywhere, and in places like Portland and Seattle its a comparable experience. Danann posted:There's a shocking amount of naivete and romanticism that the pro-capitalist section of the populace found in the West: Yep that was also my experience. Surprise motherfucker! BULBASAUR has issued a correction as of 23:57 on Jul 22, 2023 |
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Jul 22, 2023 23:53
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Frosted Flake posted:lol it makes me incredibly mad goddamn There's a new essay coming Monday you might like https://twitter.com/Leigh_Phillips/status/1682468145922203652?s=20
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Jul 23, 2023 00:18
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DiscountDildos posted:There's a new essay coming Monday you might like https://twitter.com/Eco__nnect/status/1612504712552620032
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Jul 23, 2023 00:23
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you only get into funny amounts of money if the trees have to replaced
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Jul 23, 2023 00:33
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Vox Nihili posted:Probably because a lot of capitalist Western countries actually did have such basic public amenities at the time. The American hyper-austerity model is an ongoing project. https://twitter.com/Xaniken/status/1682216547312365569?t=V-8dXMugHdNHL-5BsSsMlQ&s=19 And then the USSR collapsed and there was no threat anymore so the dividends stopped
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Jul 23, 2023 00:50
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Danann posted:There's a shocking amount of naivete and romanticism that the pro-capitalist section of the populace found in the West: That's depressing, that even people who were born and spent their whole lives in humanity's greatest societies turn out to be greedy little apes
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Jul 23, 2023 00:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Xaniken/status/1682216547312365569?t=V-8dXMugHdNHL-5BsSsMlQ&s=19 we could solve our nationwide infrastructure problems tomorrow if local governments were willing to belt and road
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Jul 23, 2023 00:53
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greed is something humans have
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Jul 23, 2023 00:53
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euphronius posted:greed is something humans have  greed is behavior derived from the ecological conditions. this is capital realism, your perception of what is naturally occuring is skewed by americanismyou can't look at like Sentinelese people and point and go "see they're also greedy because they're humans". their behaviors are derived from an entirely different ecological condition than someone from the midwest
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Jul 23, 2023 00:54
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euphronius posted:greed is something humans have I was told that greed is actually a specific evil foisted on us by capitalism and not human nature
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Jul 23, 2023 00:57
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the 'treat' discourse is self-limiting in that people think in terms of literal treats or consumer knick-knacks when probably one of the biggest differentiators is (red) meat consumption
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Jul 23, 2023 00:58
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euphronius posted:greed is something humans have but a society that glorifies it instead of demonizing it, that is built
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Jul 23, 2023 00:59
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I was told greed is good. By a very smart man of course.
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Jul 23, 2023 01:00
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DiscountDildos posted:There's a new essay coming Monday you might like I take back every good thing i've ever said about his books. jesus christ what a loving succ brain
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Jul 23, 2023 01:06
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https://twitter.com/AlexSelbyB/status/1682479383913586688?s=20
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Jul 23, 2023 01:08
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Peter Brown wrote an entire book about how "Greed is a Sin" caused something akin to a revolution in social relations in the Roman Empire, and while the huge influx of wealth caused by the Roman nobility converting changed Christianity too, you can in fact cause even the richest people in society to think greed is bad and to spend incalculable fortunes building monasteries and caring for the poor and widows. e: If the problem is "greed is human nature" the answer is simple - appeal to a cause and ideal greater than human nature, socialism or spirituality.
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Jul 23, 2023 01:17
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Frosted Flake posted:Peter Brown wrote an entire book about how "Greed is a Sin" caused something akin to a revolution in social relations in the Roman Empire, and while the huge influx of wealth caused by the Roman nobility converting changed Christianity too, you can in fact cause even the richest people in society to think greed is bad and to spend incalculable fortunes building monasteries and caring for the poor and widows. that's why they came up with effective altruism: to provide a framework for why greed is actually moral and humanist
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Jul 23, 2023 01:23
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silicone thrills posted:I take back every good thing i've ever said about his books. jesus christ what a loving succ brain Told you dawg
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Jul 23, 2023 01:26
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Shear Modulus posted:that's why they came up with effective altruism: to provide a framework for why greed is actually moral and humanist no no it’s actually good to funnel the wealth upward and then maybe distribute like 10% of the promised amounts to communities that need it. you can’t just give money directly to the poors (please ignore all the studies showing giving money directly to people who need it is a loving slam dunk on every metric except ‘number go up’)
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Jul 23, 2023 01:32
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