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I know quite a few "crunchy" folks who tend to avoid modern medicine whenever possible because they believe humans are still interconnected enough with nature that modern medicine is always a last resort for them. They're the types that give me advice for my medical problems, but none of their strategies would work for me, because my body is hosed up and weird and it will never be healthy and normal no matter what I do. So I'll take any means of medical help available to manage what I can. I don't bother to argue with them, I just say "thanks" and move on. They're otherwise genuinely great people I love having around, they just don't understand the reality of life with genetic disorders and chronic incurable illness. In nature, I'd be long dead. I'm the weakling that gets picked off by the wolves. So modern medicine is my friend and I fully support it.
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SulfurMonoxideCute posted:I know quite a few "crunchy" folks who tend to avoid modern medicine whenever possible because they believe humans are still interconnected enough with nature that modern medicine is always a last resort for them. They're the types that give me advice for my medical problems, but none of their strategies would work for me, because my body is hosed up and weird and it will never be healthy and normal no matter what I do. So I'll take any means of medical help available to manage what I can. You have a genuinely good attitude here. I also have a few chronic things that people have tried to sell me on taking vitamins and stuff. While elderberry pills won't fix my rsi, I guess the take is that they care enough to share what they think is help. I've noticed a lot of the people that are "crunchy" in my life are usually kinda more wealthy types that can afford to blow lots of money on nonsense pills.
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the holy poopacy posted:I don't know that drivers are actually worse overall now than pre-covid, drivers were pretty bad then too. Ban cars; install speed limiters to cap at 25 in cities and 60 on highways.
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I saw some dipshit run over the yield sign at work AGAIN today. It might not be covid related but bitch this is a parking lot. That sign flew like 20 feet and coulda killed someone. If I die at Target I'm gonna be an angry rear end ghost, what an embarrassing headline.
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DicktheCat posted:You have a genuinely good attitude here. I also have a few chronic things that people have tried to sell me on taking vitamins and stuff. While elderberry pills won't fix my rsi, I guess the take is that they care enough to share what they think is help. Yeah, I never get the sense that they think I'm an idiot or they're superior, they do genuinely care and want to try and help. And I appreciate that. It's the people who "well, your body can fix itself if you will it to" or "Big Pharma blah blah blah" that piss me off. Especially since we live in Canada and we don't have privatized health care. Sick people are a burden, not a customer.
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SulfurMonoxideCute posted:Sick people are a burden, not a customer. Man we're still so young as a species that has consiousness, you could be the moth that has the right pattern of color on its wings that resembles bird poo poo that gets us up another level and we wouldn't even recognize it
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Cugel the Clever posted:The number of Americans murdered by drivers spiked with covid. Driving just brings it a lot of wildly sociopathic behavior and the car is a very capable weapon. I've done some very light research into this, and it looks like one reason US pedestrian deaths is higher than than in other countries is because fuckoff huge vehicles have become way more common. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/03/17/suvs-pickups-pedestrian-fatalities-rise/7075333001/ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/23/pedestrian-deaths-cars-suvs-roads-unsafe
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Yeah lifted trucks have been responsible for a few deaths in our city in the past few years, I'm fairly certain
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I've done some very light research into this, and it looks like one reason US pedestrian deaths is higher than than in other countries is because fuckoff huge vehicles have become way more common. I get legit culture shock whenever I visit family out of country and everyone's driving small cars and beat up work trucks then I come back to the US and half the folks got Canyoneros and humvees so you know their dick isn't tiny.
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Anyone with a lifted truck should be lifted from their current life and put in a loving gulag
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This article is from Bloomberg, and is a bit eclectic, but it touches on a lot of the issues. Gaming EPA fuel economy standards by designating vehicles as "light trucks" is something kind of touched on in the article but I have seen more fully described elsewhere. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-11/the-dangerous-rise-of-the-supersized-pickup-truck
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https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184034017/us-pedestrian-deaths-high-traffic-car posted:A new study paints a grim picture of American roads: every day, 20 people walk outside and end up killed by a moving vehicle. Why would we not simply accept that rate of death as the new normal?
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SulfurMonoxideCute posted:"well, your body can fix itself if you will it to" "Cure the mind, cure the body" was supposed to be a political metaphor! 
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Platystemon posted:Why would we not simply accept that rate of death as the new normal? We will soon enough. I don't know what the alternative could be. Trying to tell a certain segment of the population that big trucks are killing pedestrians so we need to put limitations on them will only make them buy bigger and bigger trucks when some chud says it's woke. I stopped letting my daughter cross the major intersection by our house because we live in the Midwest and people keep getting killed crossing the street. Luckily, the banks and health care companies are buying up all the property so there's nothing worth risking it anymore.
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Private Cumshoe posted:Anyone with a lifted truck should be lifted from their current life and put in a loving gulag
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Ariza posted:We will soon enough. I don't know what the alternative could be. Trying to tell a certain segment of the population that big trucks are killing pedestrians so we need to put limitations on them will only make them buy bigger and bigger trucks when some chud says it's woke. It was odd growing up in Seattle area where drivers aren’t quite perfect, but there seemed to be deference to pedestrians especially at crosswalks. Still have to be careful of course but felt like good number of drivers were cautious. Wildly different situation when visiting Edinburgh, drivers do not stop at crosswalks even when there are groups of pedestrians clearly waiting to cross. Our guide didn’t have any hacks or secret know how, just explained it was awful and to not cross until totally clear and even then hurry. First and hopefully last time I’ve seen a recent pedestrian traffic fatality in the road.
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pre Covid there was this horrible intersection near downtown Phoenix by the college, and the movie theater and some busy hotel. Stop signs at all the three corners (the fourth was a shopping area) and the students would never loving stop to check for traffic. I remember seeing just swarms of college kids walking from the theater or the college to the street without pause, trusting the cars would stop. Then the stop signs were removed, and a red-light bar was over the intersection, where the peds would have to tap a crosswalk sign. That didn't stop the mass surge of people still walking into the road or the cars going right up to the crosswalk or through it when they thought the light was blinking (yield) instead of on (stop). Now there's thankfully actual red and green lights, which at least controls the cars better. Is it just Mcdonalds that removed their soda machines from the lobby, or everyone else too? Not sure if that was because of Covid or because it's easier for them to keep all that poo poo behind the counter.
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I was really lucky. Working for a private school, we were ready with Zoom for online learning the week before spring break 2020. Everything shut down after my week off, there was a bit of a rough week as we got everyone fully online for remote learning and then...it was great. I really lived my best life. The day we had to go back to work was a bummer but in-class learning was always going to come back. I was also blessed in that no one around me lost their minds over Covid. EvilJoven posted:Then I think about the sacrifices we're going to be asked to make when climate change really starts to accelerate the socioeconomic crises and humanitarian catastrophes we're already not properly dealing with. Sorry, this was pages ago, but this was the real lesson of covid. Climate change will kill us because if people can't wear a mask, how can you expect them to make lifestyle changes or accept that certain goods are just not going to be available anymore. This may be a tangent, but I was watching youtube videos on touring cute tiny apartments in Japan and the host went a side-line about how he gets really really angry responses to his videos. They're totally innocuous videos but people even seeing the idea that they might have to live somewhere smaller and that this guy is trying to sell it makes some people really really angry. Hell, just look at the response to the 15-mintue cities movement. Things are going to get loving rough and fast.
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Every zombie movie from now on has to have zombie denialists. The now canceled show, Avenue 5, aired this scene weeks before the first COVID cases were found in the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skXaeucDYHo
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Rad-daddio posted:What's funny is that I was reading the thread here on how bad Covid was going to be, and like a week before everything got locked down I went to Walmart and stocked up on some foods and supplies that might be handy in case everything went to poo poo. This made me remember back to Feb 2020, just before it all surfaced in the public awareness that "something might be coming." I'd been hearing rumbles from some of our suppliers in China that they might have an "extended" CNY season where they would stay shut down for a couple extra weeks to deal with some flu that was going around. I didn't think much of it at the time. Made a trip to Costco for my usual stock up on chicken, etc. While lining up for the checkout this fella nearly slams into me with his flat cart. Piled high upon the cart was what must have been every package of disinfecting wipes and spray the Costco had, at least 8 packs of toilet paper and several packs of bottled water. What really stuck out to me was not the hoarding, but the guy's face. Just sheer, utter panic etched into his expression and his hair was plastered to his skull with fear sweat. Dude was just... terrified. Occasionally I wonder what happened to him, and if he made it through to this side of all the insanity.
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Snuffman posted:I was really lucky. We had a big rear end hurricane like 10 years ago. Power was out for a week or so for most people across the state, so people were running generators. The lines at the gas station were really long. I think it was the 3rd or 4th day of no power or heat where I was smoking outside of a 7/11, just watching the insanely long lines at the two gas stations at the intersection I was at. I saw two people get out of their cars and start screaming at each other, and at the other gas station I saw two guys yelling and shoving each other before their wives settled them down. And that was only the third or fourth day of no power or heat. That's how little it takes and how quickly it takes for things to get to that point.
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you don't need a natural disaster for that. i live not far from a gas station, and people screaming at each over nothing happens there all the time. on quiet days i can sometimes even hear it from my house.
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Gas stations are the most miserable places on the planet, and then finally somebody decided to cheer them up by blasting commercials from the pump at mad volume.
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emergency situations are going to happen more frequently and be more severe with climate change and it’s not a bad idea to be able to stay safely home for a couple weeks minimum with no warning if needed in terms of food, water, etc if you don’t need to go buy bottled water or canned soup or a big bag of rice because you have some already then great, avoid those parking lot yelling matches
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Around me people driving too slow has become a huge problem, another thing I swear wasn't anywhere near this bad 5 or so years ago. Driving slow is not always safer. On highways, the safest thing to do is flow with traffic around you. In most cases, if everyone else is going faster than you, then you are the one being unsafe. Phone addiction has hamstrung people's attention and they go all jangle keys distracted while waiting for a green light. CaptainSarcastic posted:I've done some very light research into this, and it looks like one reason US pedestrian deaths is higher than than in other countries is because fuckoff huge vehicles have become way more common. Another solid reason is that the U.S. will shamelessly put pedestrian sidewalks and bike lanes next to motor vehicle roadways with basically nothing between them, so you're one good swerve from ending up mangled. And that's just where it's actually an accident and not on purpose because you're "too woke". Nothing like getting your brain broke with a serious public conflict occurring so you can project your broken thinkybits on people you arbitrarily judged based on initial appearances.
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I don't know if we're talking very different speeds of road but in Europe it would be very rare for someone who wasn't drunk to veer off of one of these (40mph)
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These things don't do anything Either drivers ignore them, or they see them, get upset, and flip you off while you're waiting to cross. In fact I'd say it's safer just to jaywalk then try to use these things since they provide a false sense of security.
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The more I think about it, the more I think that ignition interlocks should be required safety equipment on all vehicles. They can be defeated but I think overall, they would save a lot of lives just like seatbelts and airbags do. That and planning city development to include robust public transportation and cutting back on sprawl. But in the end, it will never happen because  .
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the crosswalks at the 4 way intersection just south of my neighborhood tell pedestrians to walk at the exact same time cars turning left or right into the crosswalk get a green light. it's wild and i've seen so many cars start a right turn the moment the light turns green just as a pedestrian takes their first step into the crosswalk. only a matter of time before someone gets flattened by a 2 ton truck or suv with no visibility
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Can you not uh... fit a plate reader to the light and fine any vehicle that runs a red?
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Edmund Sparkler posted:The more I think about it, the more I think that ignition interlocks should be required safety equipment on all vehicles. They can be defeated but I think overall, they would save a lot of lives just like seatbelts and airbags do. That and planning city development to include robust public transportation and cutting back on sprawl. One problem is that some things can trigger a false alarm, like refilling the windshield wiper fluid. Or even using wiper fluid under the wrong conditions. Since wiper fluid contains a lot of methanol it's possible for that to make the interlock register a false positive, and what mechanism could you set up so it could be disabled short of calling the cops to do a sobriety check or something? Bad Purchase posted:the crosswalks at the 4 way intersection just south of my neighborhood tell pedestrians to walk at the exact same time cars turning left or right into the crosswalk get a green light. it's wild and i've seen so many cars start a right turn the moment the light turns green just as a pedestrian takes their first step into the crosswalk. Around here there are some intersections where the walk signals have been decoupled from the green lights, so if you don't push the pedestrian walk button the walk signal will not turn on. This sets up confusing situations where pedestrians see the light turn green and start walking, while drivers in the intersection see a green and can see the DON'T WALK sign lit in the crosswalk. There is no signage to indicate this is the fact, and as far as I'm aware there wasn't a PSA campaign about it or anything. It's weird, and while it makes a certain amount of sense it's dangerous as hell if people don't know that is the expected behavior. Strategic Tea posted:Can you not uh... fit a plate reader to the light and fine any vehicle that runs a red? I've seen red light cameras trigger inappropriately way more often than appropriately, and they are usually run by outside companies (often from outside the country) who make all the revenue, with little or none going to the local municpality.
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Bad Purchase posted:the crosswalks at the 4 way intersection just south of my neighborhood tell pedestrians to walk at the exact same time cars turning left or right into the crosswalk get a green light. it's wild and i've seen so many cars start a right turn the moment the light turns green just as a pedestrian takes their first step into the crosswalk. Indianapolis tried to ban right turn on red in a single square mile area of downtown for pedestrian safety, and the state legislature was so offended they immediately passed a law saying cities couldn't enact such bans.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:One problem is that some things can trigger a false alarm, like refilling the windshield wiper fluid. Or even using wiper fluid under the wrong conditions. Since wiper fluid contains a lot of methanol it's possible for that to make the interlock register a false positive, and what mechanism could you set up so it could be disabled short of calling the cops to do a sobriety check or something? They are extremely high maintenance, models permanently attached to the car don't work in extreme temperatures on either end of the spectrum, their pricing scheme is specifically designed as a financial punishment, their operation is designed as a punishment, and passing or failing them is supposed to be extremely high-stakes. It's a nice sentiment to want them in as a safety device, but it belies the entire purpose, design and industry surrounding them. Plus, at least around here, all the install companies are owned by DWI lawyers and they aren't gonna be too thrilled about having their passive income affected.
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Privatisation wins again! I'm pretty sure traffic fines make up half the budget of a british local council  Never heard of anyone getting caught barreling through a pedestrian crossing who hadn't obviously done it though. Except the odd person moving to let an ambulance past.
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Interlocks suck because if you really want to drink and drive, you'll find someone to blow for you. My daughter's grandma worked for an interlock company. Guess who got thier license taken away permanently for multiple strikes?
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Are there any safeguards against using something like a mattress inflator to blow into it?
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Edmund Sparkler posted:The more I think about it, the more I think that ignition interlocks should be required safety equipment on all vehicles. They can be defeated but I think overall, they would save a lot of lives just like seatbelts and airbags do. That’s a lot of effort, expense, and political capital to address something that only kills about ten thousand Americans per year.
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I lost a friend down the Twitter doomer rabbit hole. More E/N than I'd like for GBS, but: She was always somewhat on edge, but ever since she thought she had got Long Covid (not saying she didn't. I'm just saying that was the third time she thought she had become infected despite no positive test and general symptoms after-the-fact) and kept texting me, "WHAT DO I DOOOOOO?!" Like I said, she was always on edge since she was a recent immigrant that was having trouble finding stable work and always telling me about her depression/ADHD. She had become primed to constantly believe all of the possible negatives so when I said she should probably talk to her doctor first to see that maybe it was some other kind of infection, or allergies, she immediately told me that they're just going to "gaslight" her. Long story short, I was starting to study for the final part of my professional education and made that comment about how I'm going to be "so busy, ugh", and she took that to think that I was blowing her off because of her "diagnosis". I didn't realize anything was wrong until a week later because she hadn't responded, but by then I was so tired of this game that I just let her go. That wasn't the first time she had misinterpreted something I had said, and at this point I didn't have the energy. I checked her Twitter account a couple of months ago, and it's literally nothing but likes and retweets from the doomer set, or tweeting at people about how they're all "plague-carriers" or something. It's awful, and I wish her the best, but if you're spending more time on Twitter than... well, systemic issues are real, but she refused to do anything about her situation. Also, the real estate market. I need to move for my job, and poo poo is hosed.
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Triikan posted:Are there any safeguards against using something like a mattress inflator to blow into it? Some of them make you blow-suck-blow, some of them make you hum while you blow, most of them make you randomly retest while you're driving in traffic. If you have enough DWIs or get caught having someone else blow here they can mandate you a super-expensive one that has a selfie camera installed in your car. All of this is a constant drain on your battery, too, and disconnecting the battery from them can immobilize the car. I knew a chick that had a regular one and she forgot the perfume rule and had to call in to work in order to go pay $80 at a lab to take an ETG so her PO didn't throw her in jail for a week. Again, the sentiment behind having them as standard equipment is understandable and good, but they're not actually a device you want to interact with on a daily basis under any circumstances, which is part of the point. MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jul 25, 2023 |
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MrQwerty posted:Some of them make you blow-suck-blow, some of them make you hum while you blow, most of them make you randomly retest while you're driving in traffic. If you have enough DWIs or get caught having someone else blow here they can mandate you a super-expensive one that has a selfie camera installed in your car. All of this is a constant drain on your battery, too, and disconnecting the battery from them can immobilize the car. Y'know, I get that people have problems and North America is a drive-everywhere society but we shouldn't have to go to that kind of trouble to keep drunks driving. I know quite a few people who have a blow-start and frankly they're usually just being assholes along-side their addiction anyways, they tend to think the rules don't apply to them. You want to be a piss-tank? Then don't drive, simple.
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