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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Roblox is everything people think Fortnite is.

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triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



i'm not sure which will be the first target to see any consequences, but i assume one of these games or mtg arena being hit for gambling will kill the other poo poo

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
No they wont

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


triple sulk posted:

i'm not sure which will be the first target to see any consequences, but i assume one of these games or mtg arena being hit for gambling will kill the other poo poo

There's no way in hell government in the United States in the 2020s bans anything like this, it will be framed as an issue of consumer choice and parental responsibility and left as is. Going forward it's a given that the government is incapable of enacting change that doesn't involve giving rich people money.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

*furiously takes notes about garbage kiddo apps*

As soon as toddler demon has the attention span to game, he's gonna play link to the past like a good human

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
the kids are alright, gives me hope for the future

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

triple sulk posted:

i still do not understand what this is. you make your own games or some bullshit? is it like an even dumber, more gamble-y minecraft?

supposedly hundreds of millions of kids (?) play it, but to my knowledge no one's kids in my ecosphere i.e. spouse's friends' kids does. maybe it's an income bracket thing?

from what I can tell Roblox is bottom of the barrel open environment where people play user generated worlds that might as well just be chat rooms. my nephew watches some dude on YouTube load up Roblox worlds that are “find the pop culture thing” and that’s it.

and now because of Roblox my nephew has a ton of pop culture references without the context. it’s real loving stupid.

as for income, my nephews family is a <$100k annually. when I ask for gift ideas it’s always Roblox gift cards.

by comparison Minecraft is an elegant exploration game.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


the restaurant industry is falling apart, pt. 18293

Local long-standing restaurant that hosted nightly jazz is getting out of the restaurant business entirely and turning into a rentable event space + bar

quote:

Getting your fix of jazz, wine, and vegetarian food in Shadyside may become more complicated with some changes coming to Con Alma. An announcement on Instagram says the Con Alma location on Ellsworth Avenue will become "a space dedicated only to special and private events." The transformation will debut on Sat., Aug. 5 with a "very special evening of music" featuring limited seating, a full bar, and no kitchen services. Tickets are $20 and are only available by emailing aimee@conalmapgh.com. No changes were announced for Con Alma's Downtown location.

Local diner chain reinstates dessert that was removed from the menu because they were unable to maintain a supply of *checks notes* bread

quote:

A local diner chain's signature dessert has returned. Eat’n Park brought back Grilled Stickies in partnership with 5 Generation Bakers, a family-owned, McKees Rocks-based company behind the famous Jenny Lee Swirl Bread. The announcement came a few months after Eat'n Park eliminated the item from its menu due to losing its former bakery partner.

The 1980s nostalgia gimmick is over

quote:

After four years of combining pop culture and comfort food, both Back to the Foodture locations will be closed by mid-August. Touted as a major Black-owned business in the area, Back to the Foodture has served up themed burgers, fries, wings, and more. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and other local outlets report that owners and married couple Eddie “Barnz” Magwood and Angel Magwood had to close because of staffing issues and a letter from Universal Studios, which stated that the Back to the Foodture name and graphics cannot be used because of their similarity to the production company's Back to the Future film franchise. The Uptown location has already shut down, and the South Side location will follow on Aug. 16.

Getting people shitfaced on overpriced crappy beers is no longer profitable, I guess

quote:

Scotland-based BrewDog has closed its Pittsburgh location, along with three of its UK-based bars, citing economic conditions in the hospitality sector. BrewDog CEO and co-founder James Watt shared the news on LinkedIn. “Closing bars that we love is always difficult. However, the increased cost of goods and runaway energy bills mean that we can’t continue to operate these venues,” Watt wrote, adding that the company still expects to open eight new bars in 2023.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

sonatinas posted:

from what I can tell Roblox is bottom of the barrel open environment where people play user generated worlds that might as well just be chat rooms. my nephew watches some dude on YouTube load up Roblox worlds that are “find the pop culture thing” and that’s it.

and now because of Roblox my nephew has a ton of pop culture references without the context. it’s real loving stupid.

as for income, my nephews family is a <$100k annually. when I ask for gift ideas it’s always Roblox gift cards.

by comparison Minecraft is an elegant exploration game.

Yeah, we've had to have several discussions with my partner's niece (because her brother and sister-in-law won't do it) about Roblox because

a) she was literally begging people online for Roblox gift cards and almost went to meet some dude for one
b) has clearly encountered some predatory people in Roblox separately from a

It's not inherently any worse than just like plain old chatrooms, except for the fact that it's heavily monetized and marketed directly at kids.

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

Here's some nice context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY

They take advantage of free child labor to make lovely games and market it to kids, gambling isn't much of a leap for them.

The children yearn for the mines.

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



holy gently caress those graphics lmao

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



skipped ten minutes in, saw how you basically make no money

scam

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


rowdy trot

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
it's extremely impressive that Roblox managed to somehow make the video game industry even more exploitative toward workers

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

triple sulk posted:

holy gently caress those graphics lmao

The monetization is awful, but the actual gameplay of most of the games is super similar to StarCraft / Warcraft 3 Use Map Settings games from the early 2000s.

In that era was playing much stupider games with worse graphics like Poker Defense, Zombie Survival, DBZ Tag, Cat and Mouse, whatever the hell someome whipped up in the map editor.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Twerk from Home posted:

The monetization is awful, but the actual gameplay of most of the games is super similar to StarCraft / Warcraft 3 Use Map Settings games from the early 2000s.

In that era was playing much stupider games with worse graphics like Poker Defense, Zombie Survival, DBZ Tag, Cat and Mouse, whatever the hell someome whipped up in the map editor.

Reminds me of BYOND more than anything else, had some good times with that (SS19, that murder mystery game). Don't remember it being so heavily monetized though.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
That's because there's a direct evolutionary path from those games to Roblox, and the pressure was "how can we most efficiently extract money from kids?"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/bigblackjacobin/status/1683844714326286336

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


not very clever

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


More like Alex Krap

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


NickPancakes posted:

Either you or your coworker have a poor understanding of type 1 diabetes. Eating high carb requires more insulin, not less.

It's probably me who's at fault then. I just know he's checking his blood monitor a few times a hour and then once in a while goes to grab a 1.5oz cup of honey, whipped cream, and sprinkles.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Xaris posted:

I actually had the opposite thought but it probably gets into how you define subsidizing the upper class, or even define upper class at all. do-nothing administrators are not exactly upper class (or rather, not the elite) -- just nepotistic middle-tier failsons to stay afloat in live off a bronze platter instead of a silver platter but well above the masses that are eating from the dumpster

The 'upper class' is also mostly the only consumer, or the p r e m i u m c o n s u m e r if you will. [...]

yeah I think we were using different definitions last night. the six-figgies with net worths in the single/low two digits millions are who I think the system will actively discard at some point. There's a lot of them, they take up a lot of resources, and I'm not convinced they're politically useful to the billionaires.

Xaris posted:

Different perspective on the question: what does maintaining large amount of underclass do for the system? sure, you need some excess proles to make sure the crab bucket is well stocked and so people don't get too uppity about solidarity, but you don't need that much and others you can keep in line with militarization. and since the underclass is also increasingly not a good vehicle for transactional rent-seeking (i.e. service economy) because the other recipient customers/consumers have no money, why keep them around?

They can perform useful labor, for one, where the premium consumer largely can't. Even the artistic output from the premiums is sucking horribly (Hollywood etc). I'm mulling over your question, but as an initial counter-question -- if the billionaires have a firm grasp on power that transcends the need to circulate fiat money and take 0.1% of each time it changes hands, why do they need a premium consumer class?

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

It's a MLM-rear end economy so teaching kids everything is a scam is probably for the best.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

america is 100% scams

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

sonatinas posted:

from what I can tell Roblox is bottom of the barrel open environment where people play user generated worlds that might as well just be chat rooms. my nephew watches some dude on YouTube load up Roblox worlds that are “find the pop culture thing” and that’s it.

and now because of Roblox my nephew has a ton of pop culture references without the context. it’s real loving stupid.

as for income, my nephews family is a <$100k annually. when I ask for gift ideas it’s always Roblox gift cards.

by comparison Minecraft is an elegant exploration game.

1. The Roblox games that attract kids' attention are not even games. Most of them are the same "find the X" games cloned with new X, whether it's "Huggy Wuggy" or some other character. The maps are the same, the locations to find are the same...they just have new skins.

2. The basic subscription to "Premium" gives you 499 Robux a month. Most anything they want to buy is 200+ Robux. I was subscribed for both my kids but I got sick of being bombarded for more Robux the same day the subscription ticked because they spent it all in literally seconds. No amount of careful explanation about budgeting and buying cheap or on sale matters. The entire game is geared to sell overinflated crap because it's trendy with their friends, online or offline.

3. There are ways to earn, win, or beg for Robux, but there is no way to earn GOOD Robux. You get pennies compared to the cost of everything. To buy anything that is desirable, you have to use cash, and the games are literally rigged. Every server has their own market, and yet they all have the same Powerups. You have to buy Powerups in every single game. Loved hopping around with spring boots in one game? Oops, that game is gone and a new server stood up in it's place; no, purchases do not carry forward.

4. The games are largely derivative (already mentioned), have barely any gameplay, and also play like poo poo. My kids are constantly crying about impossible obbys (obstacle courses), other players trolling the kids with collision physics, and barely functioning rating systems making it impossible to judge a game unless you play it in it's entirety first.

5. There are zero parental controls when it comes to content. You can keep the kids from accessing real world money, but you can't white or black list individual servers and there are so many variations of each server with common word names...poo poo you can't even tell if they're playing "NEW Find the Morphs" or "New find the Morphs Season 2 NEW MORPHS". You can't filter what they see, you can't control what they play unless you're there with them every second of their playtime on Roblox.

6. Everything is a loving casino.

7. Everything is hyped insanely and inanely by a thousand screaming YouTubers. There was talk about the 'open mouth shocked kitty' screenshots on videos, but there's a whole genre of 'shouting in amazement over generic Roblox server #2315894329 as two tubers insult each other's lack of parkour skills and laughing at every misfortune that occurs to the other tuber.'

8. Everything is a loving casino.

9. RP servers are pedo parlors, straight up.



We're banning both Roblox and YouTube and the withdrawals are insane. There are so many apps we whitelisted on their tablets that feature builtin browsers that they are constantly watching backdoored YouTube. I can't wait to be in my own home again to install a pihole and just tell them I'm sorry Roblox is gone, they took it down. It went upstate to a nice digital farm...

anonumos has issued a correction as of 16:01 on Jul 25, 2023

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009


What, are they on a glass balcony or something...

:aaaaa:

Nope, would not go anywhere near that.

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

anonumos posted:

1. The Roblox games that attract kids' attention are not even games. Most of them are the same "find the X" games cloned with new X, whether it's "Huggy Wuggy" or some other character. The maps are the same, the locations to find are the same...they just have new skins.

2. The basic subscription to "Premium" gives you 499 Robux a month. Most anything they want to buy is 200+ Robux. I was subscribed for both my kids but I got sick of being bombarded for more Robux the same day the subscription ticked because they spent it all in literally seconds. No amount of careful explanation about budgeting and buying cheap or on sale matters. The entire game is geared to sell overinflated crap because it's trendy with their friends, online or offline.

3. There are ways to earn, win, or beg for Robux, but there is no way to earn GOOD Robux. You get pennies compared to the cost of everything. To buy anything that is desirable, you have to use cash.

4. The games are largely derivative (already mentioned), have barely any gameplay, and also play like poo poo. My kids are constantly crying about impossible obbys (obstacle courses), other players trolling the kids with collision physics, and barely functioning rating systems making it impossible to judge a game unless you play it in it's entirety first.

5. There are zero parental controls when it comes to content. You can keep the kids from accessing real world money, but you can't white or black list individual servers and there are so many variations of each server with common word names...poo poo you can't even tell if they're playing "NEW Find the Morphs" or "New find the Morphs Season 2 NEW MORPHS". You can't filter what they see, you can't control what they play unless you're there with them every second of their playtime on Roblox.

6. Everything is a loving casino.

7. Everything is hyped insanely and inanely by a thousand screaming YouTubers. There was talk about the 'open mouth shocked kitty' screenshots on videos, but there's a whole genre of 'shouting in amazement over generic Roblox server #2315894329 as two tubers insult each other's lack of parkour skills and laughing at every misfortune that occurs to the other tuber.

8. Everything is a loving casino.

9. RP servers are pedo parlors, straight up.

10. All your kids classmates play it and they will hate you forever if you dont let them

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

i am harry posted:

america is 100% scams

The country was founded as a series of real estate scams

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


just make sure your kids never have any friends, bing bong so simple

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


lollin that "would you smoke pot just because your friends did it?" has turned into "would you spend $500 on Roblox Hitler avatars just because your friends did it?" this future sucks

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lollin that "would you smoke pot just because your friends did it?" has turned into "would you spend $500 on Roblox Hitler avatars just because your friends did it?" this future sucks

Pot is cheaper and less destructive than roblox dark patterns in game design.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Lol at roblox destroying video games as a concept for an entire generation

Roblox good actually?

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
begging your kids to smoke weed with their friends instead of playing roblox

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

super sweet best pal posted:

What, are they on a glass balcony or something...

:aaaaa:

Nope, would not go anywhere near that.

They are strapped into seats on a small platform held aloft by a large crane.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
Roblox is a hacked together mess that somehow caught on with kids. their death sound effect was taken from a 2000 shooter about an angel baby and it was removed after being sued.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lollin that "would you smoke pot just because your friends did it?" has turned into "would you spend $500 on Roblox Hitler avatars just because your friends did it?" this future sucks

no one was asking 8 year olds to smoke pot

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Paradoxish posted:

begging your kids to smoke weed with their friends instead of playing roblox

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

Weembles posted:

They are strapped into seats on a small platform held aloft by a large crane.

There's nothing below them? What happens if they drop that knife or fork?

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Nothus posted:

The country was founded as a series of real estate scams

And a bunch of people wanting to get rich quick by growing tobacco with no intention of staying in the colonies very long.

Risutora
Dec 28, 2006

SKULL.GIF posted:

It's probably me who's at fault then. I just know he's checking his blood monitor a few times a hour and then once in a while goes to grab a 1.5oz cup of honey, whipped cream, and sprinkles.

”brb gotta make sure my blood sugar doesnt fall under 30 mmol”

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Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Paradoxish posted:

begging your kids to smoke weed with their friends instead of playing roblox

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