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Shogi posted:the waiting list for ADHD assessment on the NHS is measured in years now, and so naturally people go for private assessment hoping to present their script as a fait accompli. i think psychiatry U.K. are one of the less dodgy ones and have nhs contracts mind. I’ve seen some truly stupid prescribing of amphetamines by some of the less reputable ones Yeah Psychiatry UK is the main one the NHS uses. My GP said my autism assessment would take about 9 months for them to be in touch but they got back to me within 3/4 months. Gonna be longer for ADHD though as I think that's the main thing people are seeking a diagnosis for at the moment? (I am not) I've heard 4-5 years for some people round here. Friend went private and got his ADHD diagnosis pretty swiftly and put on some meds, not sure what ones but imo he seemed very unwell on them. He said he felt great though so idk. I think he stopped taking them after a few months  Jose posted:for the poster insistent about me seeing a neurologist i got an nhs letter today informing me of my appointment in january. i got a separate letter at the same time saying no adhd drugs until after said appointment and discussed the legitimacy of psychiatry uk who diagnosed me lol Oh poo poo idk why but I didn't think your diagnosis was through Psychiatry UK. I thought it was another private one. Now I'm gonna be sceptical as gently caress if they do give me a positive autism diagnosis aaaaaaaaaaaaa Solefald has issued a correction as of 15:53 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Absolutely nobody that researches and seeks an autism diag privately doesn't have it though so you're grand on that front
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That guy was the most autistic of us all. Did you see what he wears
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gonadic io posted:Absolutely nobody that researches and seeks an autism diag privately doesn't have it though so you're grand on that front I never thought I could have autism but some clinical psychiatrist who was assessing me for a personality disorder said it's probably autism instead and so I should go check that out. I'm very conflicted about the whole thing lol.
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The only place that didn't give him a diag was the place that was told hey we're doing an exposé on autism diags.
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gonadic io posted:That guy was the most autistic of us all. Did you see what he wears I'm upset you made me remember his stupid hat
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Solefald posted:I never thought I could have autism but some clinical psychiatrist who was assessing me for a personality disorder said it's probably autism instead and so I should go check that out. I'm very conflicted about the whole thing lol. Well the thing about adult autism diags is like, they mean very little, concretely. Like you can maybe get some accommodations from your workplace and that's about it. It's not like ADHD where getting access to the right medication is absolutely life-changing. Like sure I know my fiancee wants hers as confirmation that's it's not her fault or a flaw with her or whatever, and that's absolutely valid, but for me as a boy growing up I was told I was definitely "on the spectrum" for as long as I can remember so when I actually got mine (at an NHS clinic but paid/queued for privately alongside my ADHD one) it was like: okay, so what does this piece of paper do, you know? gonadic io has issued a correction as of 16:39 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Like, what happened to you absolutely sucked of course Jose but the identical thing would have happened except 3 years later if you had gone through normal public NHS. ADHD is underdiagnosed by like 75% and autism even more than that. You can argue about care and monitoring and so on sure but there is absolutely not a crisis in diagnosing no matter what that one show said about it.
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gonadic io posted:Well the thing about adult autism diags is like, they mean very little, concretely. Like you can maybe get some accommodations from your workplace and that's about it. It's not like ADHD where getting access to the right medication is absolutely life-changing. Yeah I get that. I think it's just frustrating because with autism I can't just "fix" it, like with a personality disorder or something you can overcome it with the appropriate medications and therapy but autism is there forever and I guess I'm kind of scared that I have to live with the poo poo like meltdowns for the rest of my life. I had always hoped I could make them go away if I knew the root cause but yeah. On the other hand, having a positive diagnosis would mean accepting them and actually being able to seek out the appropriate resources to handle them better AND maybe I can get some understanding on what the gently caress has been going on for the past 30+ years of my life. It'll be nice to just have clarity. I don't know. It's all just very new to me and kinda scary. Sorry|! Turning this thread into the Solefald show 
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Solefald posted:Yeah I get that. I think it's just frustrating because with autism I can't just "fix" it, like with a personality disorder or something you can overcome it with the appropriate medications and therapy but autism is there forever and I guess I'm kind of scared that I have to live with the poo poo like meltdowns for the rest of my life. I had always hoped I could make them go away if I knew the root cause but yeah. On the other hand, having a positive diagnosis would mean accepting them and actually being able to seek out the appropriate resources to handle them better AND maybe I can get some understanding on what the gently caress has been going on for the past 30+ years of my life. It'll be nice to just have clarity. I don't know. It's all just very new to me and kinda scary. Sorry|! Turning this thread into the Solefald show That's absolutely valid and I'm not saying people shouldn't get them or anything if that's what they want. Fwiw yeah there are for example therapists who specialise in peoples with autisms but if you start talking to one they'd very likely take you with or without a formal diag tbh. I hope it helps. Yeah having a bad brain with no "cure" in sight sucks, believe me I am extremely familiar. And what else is this thread going to discuss tbh, it's nearly a week until Boris's next article.
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An NHS psychiatrist was happy to diagnose an (adult) relative of mine first with autism, then ADHD, finally settling on dyslexia. At any point she could have got the good drugs but eventually got prescribed a bigger monitor and some transcription software. She had to be really stubborn to get a diagnosis she could move forward with.gonadic io posted:ADHD is underdiagnosed by like 75% and autism even more than that. You can argue about care and monitoring and so on sure but there is absolutely not a crisis in diagnosing no matter what that one show said about it. Of course everyone wants an ADHD diagnosis, it gets you learning drugs and modern society can't stop yammering on about how poo poo you are if you aren't constantly succeeding.
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Why would being dyslexic mean she doesn't also have autism and or ADHD and wouldn't benefit from ADHD meds also? I don't see how the two are related to each other. And I really strongly disagree with the idea that people with ADHD only need it to succeed at school/work. It affects your whole life. Every part. Every single thing you try to do. I have been living in my new home 6 loving months and haven't even got around to hiring a cleaner yet. At any point in time I have like 10 phone calls I need to make, nothing to do with work or school just sorting my own life out. It's really really distressing to experience.
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diagnostic uncertainty and desperately trying to manage social problems with the medical model and no resources are the mental health sector’s core strengths
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Solefald posted:Yeah Psychiatry UK is the main one the NHS uses. My GP said my autism assessment would take about 9 months for them to be in touch but they got back to me within 3/4 months. Gonna be longer for ADHD though as I think that's the main thing people are seeking a diagnosis for at the moment? (I am not) I've heard 4-5 years for some people round here. i know i was a mess the other night when i phoned you but i don't think you need to refer to me in these terms i wanted the autism diagnosis more for the entirely cynical Rason of adding to job applications to help get over some fo the weirdness Jose has issued a correction as of 17:58 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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Jose posted:i know i was a mess the other night when i phoned you but i don't think you need to refer to me in these terms lol
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tbh mate you were worse in the days running up to your blackout/seizure
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Solefald posted:tbh mate you were worse in the days running up to your blackout/seizure turns out adhd drugs, dehydration, lack of sleep and a somehow legal psychoactive substance i was also on a bit like valium was not a good mix said drug really cleans out your intestines just as a way of putting people off googling around it edit: family and nurses in the hospital were aware about my extracurricular drugs fwiw i realise i'm extremely stupid for all these reasons but had survived this many a time before Jose has issued a correction as of 18:04 on Aug 21, 2023 |
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having an autism diagnosis can be super helpful to some people even without medical or workplace support but on the other hand it can make medical and workplace issues worse at least adhd can hypothetically get you medical support (if you can get one) (lol) but it's all a Land of Contrasts and I know people who really regret having an official autism diagnosis because it's been abused by wankers in positions of power. when I told my gp I was trans she was helpful and supportive... because I'd had a gic referral years ago that lasted a couple of appointments before losing my ability to get out of bed and go to work or do anything at all reliably. "well you're autistic and probably have adhd but you're not a teenager and you've probably known for long enough" thanks, really, very comforting that if I couldn't point to that you'd have Concerns about giving me a blood test or two a year. still she's the one who agreed that the medication I was asking about before might help with adhd symptoms and, when she couldn't prescribe it, told me I could probably figure out how to get it. thanks!
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luv me nhs 'ate me nhs simple as
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Yeah all I got from an Relating to current political events and decriminalisation of drugs especially those where you can microdose them to improve mental health would go a long way. Starbucks has issued a correction as of 13:37 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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sorry about your Austrianism op. hope you don't start getting interested in architecture.
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Mais pas d'oignons aux autistes, Non pas d'oignons à tous ces chiens, Mais pas d'oignons aux autistes, Non pas d'oignons, non pas d'oignons.
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RealityWarCriminal posted:sorry about your Austrianism op. hope you don't start getting interested in architecture. Literally my job, love iPhone autocorrect
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Mais pas d'oignons aux autistes, Thought you brits fought a world war 2 to rid your lands of the french language. The queen would be ashamed
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https://twitter.com/aslanpahari/status/1693925092869468357 this happened in the US too but lol 
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Look crocodile hunting is part of our heritage and no wokey pokey lefty is going to take that away.
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Lol at twitter serving up horny anime ads after the post about crocodile baiting. Thank you elon
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Biplane posted:Lol at twitter serving up horny anime ads after the post about crocodile baiting. Thank you elon x gonna give it to ya
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obviously sir Keith loving sucks for not scrapping tuition fees but the idea that they’re the biggest strain on students is daft. you literally don’t need to think about them until you’re in your graduate role. that said I’m extremely doubtful the oval office’s going be implementing maintenance grants or heavily subsidised/free accommodation at any point to help with the actual biggest financial burden to students.
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Jel Shaker posted:by accident of birth my student fees were 1 grand, my sibling was 3 grand and my cousin was 15 grand The Vice Chancellor of my uni was the one who signed off on the 3k to 9k increase. I was one of only like 40 students who protested it, for the gently caress-all it did.
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Jel Shaker posted:by accident of birth my student fees were 1 grand, my sibling was 3 grand and my cousin was 15 grand Keir Starmer: "The system is certainly broken, which is why I pledge to demand forums user Jel Shaker and their sibling to pay back the difference in student loans"
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Jel Shaker posted:by accident of birth my student fees were 1 grand, my sibling was 3 grand and my cousin was 15 grand 15 grand what the hell I did almost a full year at UWE for illustration in 2008 and it cost 3k per year, what’s tuition up to now?
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