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The Oldest Man posted:These guys are pushing to get opioid prescribing privileges in this state now btw and all I can say is lol holy poo poo that’s a terrible idea
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Aug 22, 2023 00:34
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The Oldest Man posted:These guys are pushing to get opioid prescribing privileges in this state now btw and all I can say is Its fine, they love nature - its right in their name - naturopath. Theyll just prescribe.... milk of the poppy ... instead.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:35
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Shiroc posted:One goon always lies to the doctor, one always tells the truth. What question does the doctor ask to find out if they should really prescribe pax? "stairs?"
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Aug 22, 2023 00:36
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My old lovely dentist forced me to take a vicodin prescription that I didn't want. I never got it filled but he absolutely would not let me leave the building without taking the paper.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:36
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Shiroc posted:My old lovely dentist forced me to take a vicodin prescription that I didn't want. I never got it filled but he absolutely would not let me leave the building without taking the paper. hosed up, i really hope you
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Aug 22, 2023 00:37
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Aug 22, 2023 00:38
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It's great that everyone has equitable access to good doctors. That's why there's never been any marginalized groups who've had to go outside the medical system to get things like HIV meds or gender affirming care.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:38
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Can we not run this joke into the ground? we know it happens, there's a lot of cases where it was needed, but it's not something to talk on SA. yes, I know tcc...
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Aug 22, 2023 00:41
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DickParasite posted:It's great that everyone has equitable access to good doctors. That's why there's never been any marginalized groups who've had to go outside the medical system to get things like HIV meds or gender affirming care. plugging the article I posted earlier about diy trans care again In Jules' other writing she talked a lot about how there were guides made so people could know the script of how to  lie to doctors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in order to work around the historical gatekeeping and the key medical consideration of the doctor deciding "would I gently caress this person if I let them have hormones?"
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Aug 22, 2023 00:41
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Shiroc posted:My old lovely dentist forced me to take a vicodin prescription that I didn't want. I never got it filled but he absolutely would not let me leave the building without taking the paper. take it then put it in whoevers got bad knees christmas stocking. family member of the year…
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Aug 22, 2023 00:45
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ow my knees!
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Aug 22, 2023 00:47
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Shiroc posted:plugging the article I posted earlier about diy trans care again DickParasite posted:It's great that everyone has equitable access to good doctors. That's why there's never been any marginalized groups who've had to go outside the medical system to get things like HIV meds or gender affirming care. It is deeply, deeply disingenuous to invoke the mistreatment of trans or other marginalized people receiving medical care to you not getting Paxlovid even though you really think you should. Please stop. EDIT: derp double quote Double edit: It's clear my posting isn't helping this issue. I guess don't be surprised when the thread gets gassed? Corrigenda has issued a correction as of 00:49 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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Aug 22, 2023 00:47
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Corrigenda posted:It is deeply, deeply disingenuous to invoke the mistreatment of trans or other marginalized people receiving medical care to you not getting Paxlovid even though you really think you should. Please stop. I mean, on one hand given how fucky it can be I have sympathy, but on the other hand yes, discussion of grey market poo poo exists, but please, not in the thread.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:48
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Corrigenda posted:It is deeply, deeply disingenuous to invoke the mistreatment of trans or other marginalized people receiving medical care to you not getting Paxlovid even though you really think you should. Please stop. I'm trans so gently caress off.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:50
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I know the gender identity of very few people on this website but I’m pretty sure Shiroc is trans, sooo e:f;b
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Aug 22, 2023 00:51
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I think it's fair to ban explicitly saying you should lie to get prescription, but it's crucial that the sites in question be in the OP because it's basically not possible to get it legitimately from in person doctors. If you are not lying and have covid and fall in the made up CDC guidelines, you have to use those sites anyways
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Aug 22, 2023 00:52
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Corrigenda posted:Double edit: It's clear my posting isn't helping this issue. I guess don't be surprised when the thread gets gassed? lmao
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Aug 22, 2023 00:55
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If the thread is gassed its because the thread has been targeted for years and people desperately scrutinize every post to see what can cause big stupid drama conflagrations and what can draw people who might be shocked and appalled by the issue of the moment to make it louder. I think people do need to be extremely careful of paxlovid since the contraindications are serious and handing it out to friends and family is stupid but I don't care if people work with doctors to get stuff ready before getting infected.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:56
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* jumps back into the cop car * IM CALLING MY SUPERVISOR AND ILL BE BACK
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Aug 22, 2023 00:56
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Shiroc posted:I'm trans so gently caress off. I'm trans as well. If you don't see the problem in extending what has been a massive, systemic failure on the part of many parties over the course of many years, to the issues discussed above in thread regarding Paxlovid I don't know what to tell you. They are not equivalent. This thread is very confusing.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:57
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Bastard Tetris posted:lol holy poo poo that’s a terrible idea Oh man who should be able to prescribe what (i.e. prescriptive authority) is like a whole thing where you can find the AMA and the AANP and other big organizations constantly arguing about who should be able to do what. Should I be able to talk to my pharmacist and get an albuterol inhaler or topical cream for that rash I'm having? Probably! Should my psychologist be able to prescribe antidepressants as long as they have specialized training? Maybe, but this one is less cut and dry for me. Should my chiropractor be able to prescribe me antibiotics like they can in New Mexico? Sounds like a terrible idea!
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Aug 22, 2023 00:57
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StratGoatCom posted:Yeah, that seems like doc being privileged and not checking it. Please don’t accuse doctors of being insular. We can’t let the cure be worse than the disease.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:58
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Let me be clear about a couple of things: you should not post about giving prescription medications to other people, or about your plans to hoard medications. If you do those things, you're really better off not mentioning it on the internet at all. And before somebody asks "what about getting soon-to-expire doses from a licensed medical professional", in case that comes up again in the fall, as long as you're not self-administering that's pretty clearly different.Skyl3lazer posted:How do you get it if you dont have positive tests or anything to show? Even online I've had the doctors ask for some sort of proof whatsoever. I did not know this, but apparently per this letter from the FDA, you do not necessarily need a positive test, but a diagnosis: quote:In its February 1, 2023 revision, FDA revised the scope of authorization to no longer require positive results of direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing. As revised, the scope of authorization required, in addition to other requirements, that adults and pediatric patients (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kg) have a current diagnosis of mild-to-moderate COVID-19. Corresponding changes were also made to the authorized Fact Sheets. If you don't have a diagnosis or a positive test, are not Dr. Michael Thomas Osterholm, and want Paxlovid or some other medication anyway, I'm sure you can find advice on doing so outside of these forums. Is that all fair?
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Aug 22, 2023 00:58
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Rosalind posted:Oh man who should be able to prescribe what (i.e. prescriptive authority) is like a whole thing where you can find the AMA and the AANP and other big organizations constantly arguing about who should be able to do what. Depends, how much can you pay? Is it $$$$ because then yes! All of those things are within your reach, today!
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Aug 22, 2023 00:59
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Corrigenda posted:I'm trans as well. If you don't see the problem in extending what has been a massive, systemic failure on the part of many parties over the course of many years, to the issues discussed above in thread regarding Paxlovid I don't know what to tell you. They are not equivalent. This thread is very confusing. If you don't see the massive, systemic failure on the part of many parties over the course of many years with Paxlovid I don't know what to tell you.
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Aug 22, 2023 00:59
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Corrigenda posted:I'm trans as well. If you don't see the problem in extending what has been a massive, systemic failure on the part of many parties over the course of many years, to the issues discussed above in thread regarding Paxlovid I don't know what to tell you. They are not equivalent. This thread is very confusing. IMO the real stakes here are that mention of the telehealth sites will be banned. The official position of the thread IMO should be you should have the telehealth sites on speed-dial to get it if you test positive
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Aug 22, 2023 00:59
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Bastard Tetris posted:lol holy poo poo that’s a terrible idea this state's slide into mainstreamed quackery has come by inches but yeah this is a new low quote:Ross said the other reason to license naturopathic doctors to prescribe controlled medications is to increase access to medical care in rural Washington. It's still in committee but they keep passing these in bites and nibbles, always justifying it on "lack of access." Access might as well be to a vending machine if we're going to let naturopaths prescribe extremely addictive painkillers imo.
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Aug 22, 2023 01:00
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Corrigenda posted:It is deeply, deeply disingenuous to invoke the mistreatment of trans or other marginalized people receiving medical care to you not getting Paxlovid even though you really think you should. Please stop. Why are you here. Oh you edited in you realizing it's not helping. Good job having some self awareness I guess I tried to talk to my primary care physician twice about acute covid related concerns. Both times they shrugged me off. When I was interested to see if ~pax was right for me~ they said "you have to take it within 5 days, we don't have any appointments, sorry." Which like, I get it, they're not an urgent care. But like, how am I supposed to get a professional to check? Yes I'm an idiot nerd or whatever, but this thread is the only reason I know about telehealth options for this
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Aug 22, 2023 01:00
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Shiroc posted:If you don't see the massive, systemic failure on the part of many parties over the course of many years with Paxlovid I don't know what to tell you. Same thing with every time the HIV vs covid comparisons /discussion pops up. There are massive systemic failures and hegemonic weaponization of public health against the vulnerable that are easily paralleled between them.
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Aug 22, 2023 01:00
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Corrigenda posted:My apologies, I guess I've misunderstood, but it certainly seems like you guys are making light of the reason the SAD thread was reopened, instead of taking it seriously. I don't want this thread to be gassed. Wow, we take the SAD thread extremely seriously here and I resent you saying otherwise. 
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Aug 22, 2023 01:00
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Shiroc posted:If the thread is gassed its because the thread has been targeted for years and people desperately scrutinize every post to see what can cause big stupid drama conflagrations and what can draw people who might be shocked and appalled by the issue of the moment to make it louder. Agree w/all of this. Corrigenda posted:It is deeply, deeply disingenuous to invoke the mistreatment of trans or other marginalized people receiving medical care to you not getting Paxlovid even though you really think you should. Please stop. I don't think you're a troll and I think your comment here is in earnest so I want to respond to it. I respect the experiences that many queer people have had obtaining life-saving medicine and navigating the terrible health care systems all over the world. That's it. We're on the same side.
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Aug 22, 2023 01:01
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RandomBlue posted:Wow, we take the SAD thread extremely seriously here and I resent you saying otherwise. Respect the Interfora Rules-Based Order
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Aug 22, 2023 01:02
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I think Shiroc's, icantfindaname and Exxon's posts are the last words we need on this subject, please!
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Aug 22, 2023 01:02
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:do you know why that would vary between people? my wife goes in for the same, normal, blood panel every year and her doctor asks her to not eat the morning of her appointment/~12 hours before. my PA friend asks the same thing of people getting bloodwork?
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Aug 22, 2023 01:02
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Rosalind posted:Oh man who should be able to prescribe what (i.e. prescriptive authority) is like a whole thing where you can find the AMA and the AANP and other big organizations constantly arguing about who should be able to do what. speaking of, can pharmacists still prescribe pax? did anyone actually do that?
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Aug 22, 2023 01:03
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Shiroc posted:If the thread is gassed its because the thread has been targeted for years and people desperately scrutinize every post to see what can cause big stupid drama conflagrations and what can draw people who might be shocked and appalled by the issue of the moment to make it louder. 
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Aug 22, 2023 01:03
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Rosalind posted:Should my psychologist be able to prescribe antidepressants as long as they have specialized training? Maybe, but this one is less cut and dry for me. I think that psychiatrists are the prescribers since they’re MDs, my poor psych friend has an extended family full of both and Thanksgiving dinner arguments frequently veer into this space, which seems quite dire
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Aug 22, 2023 01:03
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Rosalind posted:I'm also skeptical of the idea of paxlovid being something limited only to the "rich and connected." When my parents had COVID earlier this year, they called a free hotline from the state of Washington, were prescribed paxlovid via a telehealth appointment, and had a prescription waiting at their pharmacy within 30 minutes. Again all of this for free. They also offered free home delivery. I know many other states have similar programs that are still operating including NY and CA. I'm in Australia where paxlovid is being gatekept to the very old or the very immunocompromised despite calls from epidemiologists for wider access. They actually eased up on the eligibility factors in April this year, previously people in their 60s had to have two risk factors to be eligible for paxlovid but they lowered that to just one risk factor. For people like me who are under 60 and don't have multiple risk factors it's pretty much impossible for me to get pax unless I could somehow convince an MD to prescribe it for me, and even then it'd cost over $1,000 out-of-pocket which I couldn't even afford. I imagine it'd be pretty trivial for someone "rich and connected" to get their hands on pax, though. Louisgod posted:this legit happened and was pretty funny at the time, horse farmers/owners would get on social media and beg chuds to not buy ivermectin as all their local stores were running out and the horse owners legit needed them. I miss those stupid times. 
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Aug 22, 2023 01:03
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oh no! not SAD! anyway… back to bg3
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Aug 22, 2023 01:04
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Corrigenda posted:"Actually, guy who got probated for telling you to lie to doctors has a point" is not the best look for this thread. Maybe kramering into the thread to trans-splain to our trans prior IK who basically got harassed already by trolls into deciding it's not worth it is not the best look for you? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 22, 2023 01:04
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