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Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Found this weird rear end porny youtube channel.
The thumbnail is a sideway woman, and who is wearing a dress, but from the waist down is naked, and the picture cuts off right before the vaginal folds.

And five videos have that thumbnail. But the video is a 31 second thing, about plants.


https://www.youtube.com/@Shutoty/videos

:chloe:


Thanks Plant MONSTER. and deep dish peat moss and deep dish peat moss and deep dish peat moss

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crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Bethamphetamine posted:

Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy last week promoted a CNN town hall he can't wait to be a part of – but the cable network said no such event has been scheduled.

“Townhall with @CNN on Tuesday, Sept 12 in New York City. We can handle the heat. Let’s see if they can too. Buckle up,” Ramaswamy said.

countdown to CNN capitulating and giving him 2 hours of being interviewed by a brow furrowed caitlin collins

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out
"9/11 wasn't an inside job, I'm saying it never happened"

applause from crowd, curtins

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



tacodaemon posted:

apparently Peter Navarro was just found guilty in his criminal contempt of congress trial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/07/peter-navarro-guilty-contempt/


Peter Navarro convicted of contempt for defying Jan. 6 committee subpoena

By Paul Duggan
September 7, 2023 at 4:09 p.m. EDT

Peter Navarro, a senior Trump White House aide and vocal election denier who has said he helped hatch a legislative scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential race, was found guilty Thursday of contempt of Congress for refusing to cooperate with the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

In a federal trial in Washington that included just one day of testimony from three prosecution witnesses, and no witnesses for the defense, the 74-year-old former trade adviser was convicted of the two contempt charges he faced, each punishable by up to a year behind bars.

With right-wing provocateur Stephen K. Bannon, who was found guilty last summer of contempt of Congress, Navarro is the second high-ranking Trump official to be convicted in a criminal case related to efforts to undo President Biden’s victory at the polls. Both men are loud proponents of widely debunked claims that former president Donald Trump was denied reelection because of large-scale voter fraud in key states.

Like Bannon, Navarro defied a subpoena from the select committee that demanded information about his “stolen election” falsehoods and details of a brazen plan to reverse Biden’s win through legislative machinations on Jan. 6, 2021, when Congress met in a joint session to formally count electoral votes. The session was interrupted for more than six hours after hundreds of riotous Trump supporters stormed the Capitol.

In refusing to cooperate with the bipartisan panel, the two former White House aides cited executive privilege, saying Trump, after he left office, instructed them not to provide testimony or documents regarding matters the committee was investigating.

But neither defendant was allowed to raise executive privilege as a trial defense. And with no strong argument for an acquittal, the guilty verdicts came relatively swiftly. Navarro, like Bannon, was accused of two counts of contempt, one for withholding records, the other for refusing to give a deposition. The jury in Navarro’s case, in U.S. District Court, deliberated late Thursday morning and into the afternoon before convicting him.

“Peter Navarro made a choice,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Elizabeth Aloi said in her closing argument Thursday. “He chose not to comply with a congressional subpoena. Our government only works when people play by the rules. And it only works if they are held accountable when they do not.”

Bannon, found guilty in the same courthouse in July 2022 after 2½ hours of jury deliberations, was sentenced to four months in prison. He remains free pending the outcome of his appeal. Judge Amit P. Mehta set Navarro’s sentencing for Jan. 12.

Navarro, an economist and top Trump aide for all four years of the administration, and Bannon, a Trump political adviser who was chief White House strategist for seven months in 2017, are the first defendants to face potential incarceration for defying a congressional subpoena in more than half a century under a federal law that is rarely prosecuted.

Since Navarro received the subpoena from the now-disbanded select committee in February 2022, Trump, who is again running for president, has been accused of 91 felonies in four indictments, including four federal charges stemming from efforts to overturn the election.

As with Bannon, Navarro’s best hope for an acquittal was to argue that he was barred from obeying the subpoena because Trump, after leaving office, invoked executive privilege in conversations with him. The privilege is meant to protect the privacy of discussions between presidents and their close aides. But Mehta prohibited the argument as a trial defense for Navarro, citing scant evidence that such conversations took place.

Because prosecutors were spared a trial fight over the validity of Trump’s purported assertion of executive privilege, they had to prove only that Navarro received the subpoena, that the information it sought was pertinent to the committee’s investigation, and that Navarro willfully failed to comply with its demands for testimony and documents.

To that end, prosecutors summoned just three witnesses: David Buckley, who was the committee’s staff director, and two of the panel’s senior investigative counsels, Daniel George and Marc Harris. Navarro’s lead attorney, Stanley E. Woodward Jr., called no witnesses and cross-examined only George, for 15 minutes.

Harris, who was to have been the main inquisitor in Navarro’s scheduled deposition, told the jury that he had planned to question the former Trump aide on several topics, including the legislative scheme to thwart the counting of electoral ballots and Navarro’s false claims of widespread voting irregularities. Navarro has said he compiled his fraud “research” in a three-volume report that he personally gave to Trump before Jan. 6 and posted online.

Committee investigators wanted to explore any nexus among Navarro’s “stolen election” falsehoods, the maneuvering to halt the electoral-ballot count, and the Capitol attack, Harris testified. He said Navarro was served with a subpoena because it “became clear” to the panel’s staff that he had been “fomenting” violence by “contributing to uncertainty” about Biden’s victory, which “directly fed into” the Capitol mob’s rage.

Navarro’s hamstrung defense, meanwhile, was reduced to long-shot arguments.

In asking Mehta to issue verdicts of not guilty from the bench before jury deliberations began, Woodward, without the jurors present, implored the judge to consider the possibility that Navarro didn’t have the documents that the committee wanted. Woodward said prosecutors had failed to prove that his client possessed the type of records listed in the subpoena, meaning he should be acquitted of contempt on that count.

Yet Navarro has never asserted in court or to the committee that he did not have the documents.

As for the contempt charge involving testimony, Woodward said Navarro should be acquitted because prosecutors had failed to prove that he “willfully” missed the scheduled deposition. Federal case law holds that an action isn’t willful if it stems from a “mistake, accident” or other innocent occurrence. “We don’t know that he wasn’t stuck on the Metro,” Woodward told the judge.

Was he?

“I don’t know.”

Woodward later focused on the willfulness issue in his closing argument to the jury, saying prosecutors had produced “no evidence” that Navarro’s lack of response to the subpoena was not a result of “inadvertence, accident or mistake.”

In interviews with the Daily Beast and other media outlets before he was indicted last year, and in a 2021 memoir, Navarro said his and Bannon’s legislative scheme involved dragging out the process of tallying electoral votes on Jan. 6, 2021. Trump loyalists in the House and Senate would contest the ballots from six swing states that Biden had won, and each challenge would prompt four hours of debate, resulting in a nationally televised 24-hour spectacle.

According to Navarro, his job was to supply Trump-friendly lawmakers with volumes of “evidence” regarding voter fraud, to justify the challenges, while Bannon’s role was to whip support for the plan among Republicans in Congress. The two called their strategy “the Green Bay Sweep,” a football reference to an end-run play made famous in the 1950s by coach Vince Lombardi’s Green Bay Packers.

The goal was to pressure Vice President Mike Pence, who was presiding over the joint session, to return the electoral votes to the states for reexamination. Eventually under the plan, the House would wind up choosing the next president, with the 50 state delegations each casting a single vote to decide the election. While Democrats outnumbered Republicans in the chamber, Republicans controlled a majority of delegations.

The outlandish play broke down after the Capitol riot when Pence refused to go along with it.

Bannon and defense attorneys in his contempt trial did not respond to emails seeking comment on Navarro’s account of the scheme.

Navarro told Rolling Stone that Trump wanted “only peace and calm” on Jan. 6 “so that we could meticulously implement the Green Bay Packers Sweep.” The House select committee later concluded otherwise, however, saying the “the central cause” of the riot “was one man, former president Donald Trump, who many others followed.”

In the contempt case, prosecutor John Crabb Jr. argued that Navarro, in refusing to cooperate with the inquiry, “acted as if he’s above the law. But he isn’t above the law. No one is.”

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Found this weird rear end porny youtube channel.
The thumbnail is a sideway woman, and who is wearing a dress, but from the waist down is naked, and the picture cuts off right before the vaginal folds.

And five videos have that thumbnail. But the video is a 31 second thing, about plants.


https://www.youtube.com/@Shutoty/videos

this is some numbers station poo poo

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

tacodaemon posted:

apparently Peter Navarro was just found guilty in his criminal contempt of congress trial

Sentencing in Jan.

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 372 days!

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Found this weird rear end porny youtube channel.
The thumbnail is a sideway woman, and who is wearing a dress, but from the waist down is naked, and the picture cuts off right before the vaginal folds.

And five videos have that thumbnail. But the video is a 31 second thing, about plants.


https://www.youtube.com/@Shutoty/videos

i did not need to see this

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
the walls are closing in

Consolidated Ed
Mar 4, 2005
Lineman for Justice

The Pussy Boss posted:

he's going to be President again and I'm glad of it

everybody in america knows this except but also including the media. they know it, but they don't, but they do. liberalism in a nutshell: we cant do anything about this very obvious problem we're pretending doesnt exist

"institutions will save us! have a great weekend!" -- liberals, leaving for the weekend

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Consolidated Ed posted:

"institutions will save you -- I mean us! have a great weekend!" -- liberals, leaving for the weekend

Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006

Platoon rear end spider

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Found this weird rear end porny youtube channel.
The thumbnail is a sideway woman, and who is wearing a dress, but from the waist down is naked, and the picture cuts off right before the vaginal folds.

And five videos have that thumbnail. But the video is a 31 second thing, about plants.


https://www.youtube.com/@Shutoty/videos

Gotta know when to fold 'em

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

Ben Nerevarine posted:

Platoon rear end spider

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Ben Nerevarine posted:

Platoon rear end spider

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 372 days!

tacodaemon posted:

apparently Peter Navarro was just found guilty in his criminal contempt of congress trial

drat they are nabbing people for ignoring congressional subpoenas???

ooooouh mamacita this could get spicy

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016


Ben Nerevarine posted:

Platoon rear end spider

Lol

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

Origami Dali posted:

this is some numbers station poo poo

Yeah! I thought I was going crazy when I saw this poo poo in the recommendations. Like it can't be real


tenderjerk posted:

i did not need to see this
That is why I tried to describe it with words, and without a screenshot. So you would not click on it or see it.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

crime fighting hog posted:

countdown to CNN capitulating and giving him 2 hours of being interviewed by a brow furrowed caitlin collins

I dunno, I think it's Megan's time again. You know she wants it.

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Ben Nerevarine posted:

Platoon rear end spider

Never seen. Worth watching? Can I take Charlie Sheen seriously after everything?

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

tenderjerk posted:

drat they are nabbing people for ignoring congressional subpoenas???

ooooouh mamacita this could get spicy

No, he is a token arrest. They've let dozens of republican fascists blow them off by now.

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

petit choux posted:

I dunno, I think it's Megan's time again. You know she wants it.

For a sec I thought you meant Markle and ya know it can't be any less entertaining

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Ben Nerevarine posted:

Platoon rear end spider

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

crime fighting hog posted:

For a sec I thought you meant Markle and ya know it can't be any less entertaining

No, the Megan that blew away her career by being a subnormal Trumper nutcase is back on the campaign trail

Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006

crime fighting hog posted:

Never seen. Worth watching? Can I take Charlie Sheen seriously after everything?

I watched it for the first time just a few months ago and it’s a pretty fantastic movie, hits hard and has tons of incredible performances by faces that went on to become big-name actors (Forest Whittaker, John C McGinley, Tony Todd, Keith David, and more)

well worth your time

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
found this in the goldmine

Boob Cop
Jan 1, 2023

UFOTacoMan posted:

I would like to be australian



crime fighting hog posted:

I just walked outside for a smoke and ran into about 15 spider webs with my goddamn face

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Nebraska, Australia, what's the difference?!

for real the spider webs are bad this year

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Ben Nerevarine posted:

I watched it for the first time just a few months ago and it’s a pretty fantastic movie, hits hard and has tons of incredible performances by faces that went on to become big-name actors (Forest Whittaker, John C McGinley, Tony Todd, Keith David, and more)

well worth your time

I'll check it out! thank you

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

x posting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwr9r36zIU

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/PapavasileiouWX/status/1699806346126725201?s=20

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

what's the sentencing guidelines for that?

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

crime fighting hog posted:

Nebraska, Australia, what's the difference?!

for real the spider webs are bad this year

Our neighbor cat killed a bunch of lizard that used to roam around our yard, and I miss them.
Especially now that we keep finding spiders the size of a thumb around the house.

loving Spiders. You're so lucky there was a lizard genocide by the neighborhood Hitler cat.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

thessaly lookin thelassic

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Ben Nerevarine posted:

Platoon rear end spider

apocalypse now rear end roach


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIhMoPA96Z0

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

avatar rear end spider :xd:

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump
early spring is great around here because we have so many hummingbirds nesting that they take down all the spider webs to build their stretchy nests

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



jesus loving christ who the gently caress doesn't know that Belo Horizonte is a honkin big city in Brazil


Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

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Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

tacodaemon posted:

jesus loving christ who the gently caress doesn't know that Belo Horizonte is a honkin big city in Brazil




I thought it was Mitt Romney's secret twitter account

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