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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:
I think I'm going to wait with the reasoning that my risk is going to be higher in December, and that since the wave is already here if I get a shot today I have a non-negligible risk of getting the shot and then catching COVID before the immune response from the shot kicks in, defeating the benefit of the shot. So if I get got between now and the first week of October or so, or between Thanksgiving and New Years, then my gamble was correct. If I get got after that first week of October through early November then my gamble did not pay off. If I don't get got at all in 2023 then timing of the shot won't have mattered much anyway.
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Sep 14, 2023 19:41
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I have an appointment for tomorrow but I am thinking about cancelling it and waiting until mid/late October. I am about 90% WFH, don't go inside anywhere except grocery and hardware stores and obviously masked. The only constant in this bullshit is that there has always been a spike from xmas to new year, the other ones are random. 
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COVID is going around at my office currently and a lot of people are on their 3rd and 4th rounds and it is finally starting to dawn on them that this is forever now. However the response seems to just shrug their shoulder and go "that sucks".
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Sep 14, 2023 19:43
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Thoguh posted:COVID is going around at my office currently and a lot of people are on their 3rd and 4th rounds and it is finally starting to dawn on them that this is forever now. However the response seems to just shrug their shoulder and go "that sucks". Taken from a post on my work's slack about an hour ago: A: feeling a bit under the weather, gonna go lie down for a bit and see if i feel better B: totally that time of the year, everyone i know is getting sick A: my gf has been traveling a lot recently too, so that probably isn't helping anything 
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Sep 14, 2023 19:53
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Thoguh posted:COVID is going around at my office currently and a lot of people are on their 3rd and 4th rounds and it is finally starting to dawn on them that this is forever now. However the response seems to just shrug their shoulder and go "that sucks". I have started planning things based on what the end of this decade will be like. How much of my family is going to die or be disabled by covid by 2030? Friends? Possible co-workers? Then i just prioritze the people i think will make it.
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Sep 14, 2023 20:04
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I'm also taking some grad school classes right now and we had a guy in one of my group projects get married and then disappear off the face of the earth for three weeks before sending us a note that he "had been really sick and was just now starting to feel good enough to sign on" and was dropping the class. Dude clearly caught COVID at his wedding and got knocked on his rear end for almost a month but couldn't utter the forbidden word.
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Sep 14, 2023 20:04
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Lots of people getting sick lately. Something must be going around.
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Sep 14, 2023 20:17
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eXXon posted:Trying to figure out what the gently caress "business leaders are now more attuned to their workers, both physically and psychologically" is supposed to mean. What kind of physical attunement are we talking about here exactly? it means that employers now know that workers NEED to be in office, or it will destroy their emotional well being. you know, like what they said about slaves and whipping
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Sep 14, 2023 20:19
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Lots of people getting sick lately. Something must be going around. yeah it's the summer flu, which is a totally real thing and not made up
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Sep 14, 2023 20:31
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Fur20 posted:it means that employers now know that workers NEED to be in office, or it will destroy their emotional well being. you know, like what they said about slaves and whipping it's repurposing the "kids are still depressed and chronically absent not due to recurring infections but rather psychological damage from a brief period of virtual schooling" thing to the adult workforce lol
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Sep 14, 2023 20:35
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tangy yet delightful posted:yeah it's the summer flu, which is a totally real thing and not made up i genuinely think we are doing a mass mandela effect on this, that these summer flus have always been around and you're an idiot if you didn't know this but op is right, there is something going around out there and it is getting people sick
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Sep 14, 2023 20:35
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School DID just start in a lot of places, and that does always seem to bring an uptick in illness transmission. I'm not sure if there's been a week yet where neither of my kids are sick and we've all tested negative on multiple COVID tests (both Lucira and RAT) I called our HMO to try ang schedule boosters for the kids (wife and I are waiting for Nova) and they told me that they're not scheduling them yet cause they're waiting for the CDC to authorize them 
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Sep 14, 2023 21:22
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Oh don't get me wrong at this point there's absolutely regular colds going around in varying forms. But there's a weird uptick in people calling long bad spring and summer sicknesses "the flu" when it's objectively not.
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Sep 14, 2023 21:29
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CVS not allowing me to schedule for my kid. Called the local and they said it was for 12+. uhh..... dude I'm pretty sure it was authorized for 6 months+ "well, we'll know more when we actually get it in". Same answer for asking what the difference in dosage is between pediatric and adult-sized. (I guess because they are operating under the assumption there is no pediatric dosage, heh).
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Sep 14, 2023 21:32
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don’t worry we have the tools
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Sep 14, 2023 21:34
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Baddog posted:CVS not allowing me to schedule for my kid. Called the local and they said it was for 12+. uhh..... dude I'm pretty sure it was authorized for 6 months+ Every time around the pediatric vaccine is a cluster My spouse and I already have our appointments booked for Saturday but can't find anyone, including our kids' pediatric health system, with any concrete info on peds vax
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Sep 14, 2023 21:34
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Idk what it is, but there’s definitely some sort of non-Covid respiratory thing going around. My kid was coughing long before he got actual covid, and my spouse has developed a cough that’s presumably not Covid since she keeps testing negative on RATs. I haven’t been sick since Feb 2020 though, so I have to conclude I am now immune to all disease and might as well go get bogo apps at my local chain restaurant.
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Sep 14, 2023 21:37
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Loucks posted:Idk what it is, but there’s definitely some sort of non-Covid respiratory thing going around. My kid was coughing long before he got actual covid, and my spouse has developed a cough that’s presumably not Covid since she keeps testing negative on RATs. I haven’t been sick since Feb 2020 though, so I have to conclude I am now immune to all disease and might as well go get bogo apps at my local chain restaurant. It's COVID
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Sep 14, 2023 21:44
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Regarding pediatric doses and such, the AAP has this article with some helpful links at the bottom: https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/25869/CDC-approves-updated-COVID-19-vaccines-for The first link goes to a CDC presentation (p. 136), which calls the dosing "proposed": https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2023-09-12/11-COVID-Wallace-508.pdf The second link goes to a page that says:  Both of which makes me think that perhaps pediatric dosing hasn't been entirely decided.
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Sep 14, 2023 21:52
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The Oldest Man posted:It's COVID hey now, not necessarily. how old is this kid, if by "kid" op means "no longer an actual kid but a surly teenager, kid is just easier to say" then maybe he just started smoking weed
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Sep 14, 2023 21:58
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dxt posted:Is the moderna shot still bigger? More vaxxx = more titers = more good Anyone able to answer this? I tried a quick google but trying to google for this specific dose versus the previous formulations, and everything is like a PDF of tons of bullshit I'm trying to sift through.
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Sep 14, 2023 21:59
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tangy yet delightful posted:Anyone able to answer this? I tried a quick google but trying to google for this specific dose versus the previous formulations, and everything is like a PDF of tons of bullshit I'm trying to sift through. According to the new CDC slides, the updated 23/24 shot dosing for >12 years are 0.5mL for Moderna and 0.3mL for Pfizer, which I think is the same as it has been. The pediatric dosing for Moderna appears to be 0.25mL while Pfizer is still 0.3. e: it's on slides 141 and 142 here if you're curious https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2023-09-12/11-COVID-Wallace-508.pdf
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Sep 14, 2023 22:08
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Pingui posted:Regarding pediatric doses and such, the AAP has this article with some helpful links at the bottom: The Oldest Man posted:According to the new CDC slides, the updated 23/24 shot dosing for >12 years are 0.5mL for Moderna and 0.3mL for Pfizer, which I think is the same as it has been. The pediatric dosing for Moderna appears to be 0.25mL while Pfizer is still 0.3. Huh interesting if pfizer is giving the same dosage across the board. Makes things simpler for sure.
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Sep 14, 2023 22:12
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The Oldest Man posted:According to the new CDC slides, the updated 23/24 shot dosing for >12 years are 0.5mL for Moderna and 0.3mL for Pfizer, which I think is the same as it has been. The pediatric dosing for Moderna appears to be 0.25mL while Pfizer is still 0.3. Getting that jumbo Moderna shot for maximum titers 
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Sep 14, 2023 22:17
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if you have covid symptoms and RATs are negative, it could still be covid, get a PCR
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Sep 14, 2023 22:17
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Pingui posted:Regarding pediatric doses and such, the AAP has this article with some helpful links at the bottom: CDC: gently caress the kids The chuds think Europe is so great now for once because supposedly several countries don’t recommend the vaccine for kids now?
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Sep 14, 2023 22:22
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The Oldest Man posted:It's COVID It’s probably rhinovirus. That’s what children are getting sick with right now.
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Sep 14, 2023 22:30
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Glumwheels posted:CDC: gently caress the kids Well in so far as COVID is concerned, it certainly isn't recommended (or generally allowed) for kids here  , though with a notable exception:https://en.coronasmitte.dk/ posted:Vaccination But if you mean in a more general sense, kids under 5 are allowed and recommended to get a flu shot. Edit: Can't speak for the other countries. Things are generally getting very stupid on the vaccination front though, so 
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Sep 14, 2023 22:32
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Poppers posted:It’s probably rhinovirus. That’s what children are getting sick with right now. dont diagnose people online, dipshit
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Sep 14, 2023 22:46
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Sep 14, 2023 22:49
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Here's a paper for folks interested in knowing where a possible next COVID minimization vector is forming: Long COVID as a functional somatic symptom disorder caused by abnormally precise prior expectations during Bayesian perceptual processing: A new hypothesis and implications for pandemic response, in a journal called Sage Open Med It puts forth that Long COVID is "real" for the people suffering from it, but lays the blame at the public health approach for inducing fear in the population, thereby giving predisposed people a somatic disorder. All the media scares served as a "nocebo". The lockdowns caused lots of mental illness. They come up with a new term to replace Long COVID: "Pandemic-Response Syndrome"; they also use the term "Long-Pandemic" and "COVID Stress Syndrome". A bunch of citations I haven't dug through yet, talking about weaknesses in papers studying long COVID. (And I mean, yeah, it's in fact really hard to find a control group of uninfected people these days, so if that's the standard I can't imagine how one would ever be satisfied now, oh well guess we'll never know.) I find it a bit hard to really review this paper because I keep stumbling into things that I'm pretty sure I disagree with, for instance, they cite a paper talking about “[It is] biologically implausible that an infection that is usually mild or asymptomatic in children would commonly result in severe post-infection symptoms.” and I immediately think of post polio syndrome, and then I immediately think of this lady on Twitter talking about learning to stop fearing Polio because it was actually was DDT and heavy metal poisoning and then I just wanna have a lie down and think really hard about how we nearly lost the knowledge to combat scurvy after we figured it out the first time. But I do think it's valuable to look at papers you know you disagree with and see what the other side is working with in their reasonings and citations.
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Sep 14, 2023 22:54
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Poppers posted:It’s probably rhinovirus. That’s what children are getting sick with right now.  It's not just a single datapoint or a curve fit artifact either.
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Sep 14, 2023 22:56
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Baddog posted:CVS not allowing me to schedule for my kid. Called the local and they said it was for 12+. uhh..... dude I'm pretty sure it was authorized for 6 months+ yeah all the Walgreens and CVS around me don’t have the peds dose and my kids dr doesn’t either and I’m in metro Detroit. real cool!
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Sep 14, 2023 22:57
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DominoKitten posted:(..) In an abstract sense I agree, but I think that article (per your description) is veering too far from material reality to grant any insight.
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Sep 14, 2023 22:57
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Pingui posted:In an abstract sense I agree, but I think that article is veering to far from material reality to grant any insight. I don't think that the paper is going to give useful insight on material reality. I think it's going to give insight on possible ways people will frame COVID as being Not A Problem, so Nothing Needs To Be Done. It's not a problem because we have the tools. It's not a problem because it's just a cold, just like the flu. It's not a problem because we have previous immunity now, hybrid immunity now. It's not a problem because the hospitals aren't overwhelmed. Low testing, low cases, no problem. In this instance, COVID is not a problem because Long Covid is just a mental health issue from lockdown and the public health response making people fearful beyond reason, nevermind that I can think of multiple papers finding various biological markers.
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Sep 14, 2023 23:03
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:e you know what I am going to stop posting this garbage Newsweek is owned by some organization like the moonies or something and is no more reliable than the national inquirer
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Sep 14, 2023 23:06
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Thoguh posted:Dude clearly caught COVID at his wedding and got knocked on his rear end for almost a month but couldn't utter the forbidden word. I wasn't prepared for the way society ended up downplaying the severity of the pandemic, but witnessing everyone refuse to name the obvious thing that's making them sick has been something else entirely. Somehow everyone communicated to each other without words that COVID can't / shouldn't be named, almost like telepathy between longtime basketball teammates.
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Sep 14, 2023 23:11
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DominoKitten posted:I don't think that the paper is going to give useful insight on material reality. I think it's going to give insight on possible ways people will frame COVID as being Not A Problem, so Nothing Needs To Be Done. It's not a problem because we have the tools. It's not a problem because it's just a cold, just like the flu. It's not a problem because we have previous immunity now, hybrid immunity now. It's not a problem because the hospitals aren't overwhelmed. Low testing, low cases, no problem. Right, I understand. But the fundamental argument isn't new, we see it quite a bit from the right. Where it provides a new vector would be either constructing a new material connect or arguing to a different group. However it isn't really doing either, as it is too far from material reality for the right-wingers suffering from PASC and a right-wing think-tank toady + an executive coach, is a bit too on the nose for the nominal left-wing.
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Sep 14, 2023 23:12
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:(..) I am going to stop posting (..) Disgusting.
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Sep 14, 2023 23:15
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Why Am I So Tired posted:I wasn't prepared for the way society ended up downplaying the severity of the pandemic, but witnessing everyone refuse to name the obvious thing that's making them sick has been something else entirely. Somehow everyone communicated to each other without words that COVID can't / shouldn't be named, almost like telepathy between longtime basketball teammates. PTA meeting the other night several parents asked if absenteeism is caused by illness like Covid and the principal looked like a politician fake smiling through a hard question from a reporter during a debate as he explained that they have no evidence that kids are missing school due to illness. Two other parents complained that their kids had caught Covid at school and he was like ‘well kids aren’t missing school like they were last year’ and one shot back ‘yeah there’s no testing and no requirement they stay home like last year either’ and he just had this carefully schooled fake serene smile on his face and said ‘well there’s nothing we can do about that if it’s not required they stay home.’ The president of the PTA apparently caught Covid from her kid and it developed into pneumonia, and another board members kid had to quit football after catching it, though none of them have been masking or not going out and about but they’re sure their kids are bringing it home because they tell them stories all the time about how so and so came to school sick and said it was Covid so it’s no big deal. Our wastewater levels pretty much went vertical when school started.
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Sep 14, 2023 23:28
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Oracle posted:PTA meeting the other night several parents asked if absenteeism is caused by illness like Covid and the principal looked like a politician fake smiling through a hard question from a reporter during a debate as he explained that they have no evidence that kids are missing school due to illness. Two other parents complained that their kids had caught Covid at school and he was like ‘well kids aren’t missing school like they were last year’ and one shot back ‘yeah there’s no testing and no requirement they stay home like last year either’ and he just had this carefully schooled fake serene smile on his face and said ‘well there’s nothing we can do about that if it’s not required they stay home.’ quote:The White House is raising the alarm on students’ chronic absenteeism, saying there needs to be an “all-hands-an-deck approach” as the issue could be contributing to learning loss. 
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Sep 14, 2023 23:57
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