Soap Scum posted:

oh but uhhhh careful maybe, drinking water too much/too fast is also legit dangerous. almost killed my music teacher once. good luck :')

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

a guy on a work call had to stop talking so he could cough and then he said "sorry my covid is killing me here." and I don't think he was being sarcastic.

he sounded like total dog poo poo.

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

what

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

what

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Considering that IQ tests are regularly recalibrated to reflect the current tested mean I guess this is actually possible, you just have to make sure you lose less intelligence than the majority of the population. One weird trick to have higher than average IQ!





Edit: just in case anyone thought I was being completely serious, IQ tests are bunk for a variety of reasons. I've never done an IQ test and I don't ever intend to. But I do plan to avoid brain inflammation as much as possible

Oracle posted:

make an appointment now for it, you can always cancel if it comes out but you might not have availability if you wait. I made appointments yesterday and they’re already booked into October. It’s not going to be like last time where they couldn’t give them away and things were plentiful

Insanite posted:

I agree that it’s a little odd to assume this is related to COVID and not, say, Matt’s prodigious use of various substances, but I’m also not sure how to talk about things like this in the future where the following facts hold:

1. covid dramatically increases one’s risk of stroke and heart attack and other shocking, fatal things
2. famous(ish) people occasionally have serious issues like strokes and heart attacks

like, yeah, it’s dumb to say that every heart attack would not happen but for covid, but if we’re to live in a world where there are many more heart attacks than there used to be, where is the line as far as speculation goes? do you require a statement from friend’s and family implicating a recent covid infection? should there be a medical examiner’s report? is it just a matter of bad vibes? idk.

my parents both had clotting issues after covid. one died. I have no proof that covid caused those things. what would that proof even look like at this stage of the game? am I wrong to feel like covid probably contributed to what happened to them?

Psycho Society posted:

no one cares about your little scoldings dude

NeonPunk posted:

I hate those kind of studies. Like the other educational study posted previously, they never stopped and once considered that Covid itself could be a cause in of itself. We already know that Covid infects your brain directly since 2021!

rodbeard posted:

I had an appointment to get a booster at CVS but I got a text saying they don't actually have the vaccine yet. Is there a more reliable way to book booster appointments?

Baddog posted:

Might want to call them to see if they actually have it, the text I got was bogus.

Saagonsa posted:

Pointlessly speculating about a dude's serious medical incident when they clearly don't want to be specific about it is really weird.

euphronius posted:

I’m like symptom free after 48 hours of paxlovid

it’s the best drug ever

toggle posted:

if someone goes to work ill with covid, infects a coworker and that person is either maimed or dies, is the infector a bio terrorist?

emgeejay posted:

https://twitter.com/chapotraphouse/status/1705370901351682116?s=46&t=m6fGiglUP1-mz5m0sRqpiw
chapo’s on hiatus due to matt christman suffering a near fatal medical emergency, described only as a “totally normal-style sudden medical emergency that happens to normal people,” which is a joke about people thinking he got epsteined but also mirrors the widespread belief that having major heart attacks or strokes at age 40 is totally normal these days. the folks on the recording don’t want anyone to be speculative little freaks, but they sound badly shaken up and I am too, and sometimes I just despair that we aren’t even trying to turn this around. his baby’s on the way this week.

Gildiss posted:

Cushbomb got got, but acknowledges the potential future owning of his immune system.

Up to around first 10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdMeye3sAZU

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ment-overreach/ posted:

COVID surge shouldn’t close schools, says Biden Education secretary: ‘I worry about government overreach’

Education Secretary Miguel Cardona says schools should not be shutting down due to surges in COVID-19 and expressed worry about government overreach.

“I worry about government overreach, sending down edicts that will lead to school closures because either folks are afraid to go in or are infected and can’t go,” Cardona told The Associated Press.

Despite the new wave of COVID-19 cases, “schools should be open, period,” Cardona said, according to the AP.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Edit: just in case anyone thought I was being completely serious, IQ tests are bunk for a variety of reasons. I've never done an IQ test and I don't ever intend to. But I do plan to avoid brain inflammation as much as possible

Woodsy Owl posted:

I spent the afternoon calling around western Washington trying to find any pharmacy or healthcare provider that was offering the new pediatric Covid shots for under-3yo. Not a single place had it. My kid is due for shot #2 of her two-dose primary Moderna series next week. Pediatricians office said they don't have anything now, and won't be stocking Moderna anymore. gently caress gently caress gently caress.

For a laugh, navigate to vaccines.gov and type in any zip code and select the 6mo vaccine filters. Not a single hit for 100 miles in NYC, Seattle, Portland, nor San Francisco. There are 4 places that supposedly offer it outside of LA.

Pingui posted:

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Pingui posted:

fosborb posted:

yes. proper inappropriately personal parasocial behavior is being concerned about Matt's newborn due in the next week or two, which centers the famous person, rather than the disease to rack up a personal tally of injury

if you want to talk about higher incidents of specific medical conditions now that we are in the Age of Pestilence (a thing we should be discussing, I believe), great! link to those numbers and let's discuss trends, and what's contributing to them.

Platystemon posted:

It should be illegal to say that this weather event or that weather event was “fuelled by climate change” unless you can point to peer‐reviewed attribution analysis stating the same.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...cal-briefing-55 posted:

SARS-CoV-2 variant surveillance and assessment: technical briefing 55
Updated 22 September 2023
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BA.2.86
As of 18 September 2023, there are 48 BA.2.86 sequenced cases in England, an increase of 11 cases in the last week.

Cases were found in:

• the East of England
  
• London
  
• the North East
  
• the North West
  
• the South East
  
• the South West
  
• the West Midlands

Of 48 total cases in England, 10 were hospitalised (6 have unknown hospitalisation status), and no deaths due to COVID-19 have been reported. Most sequenced cases in England are people tested in hospital and the hospitalisation rate cannot be estimated from this data. These cases include 30 sequenced as part of an investigation into an outbreak in a care home which reported a high attack rate. Of the remaining 18 cases, all were sporadic apart from which 2 may be epidemiologically linked.
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Neutralisation studies
Data from 4 UK labs shows neutralisation titres against BA.2.86 are slightly higher than titres against XBB.1.5 in 3 of 4 UK serum group data, and lower in one serum group.

ACE2 binding affinity data
Two international independent labs (Cao and Veesler) have shared preliminary ACE2 binding affinity measurements of BA.2.86. Published data is not yet available for these studies. BA.2.86 spike shows high human ACE2 binding affinity, in line with or above previous Omicron sublineages. Weak ACE2 binding affinity has previously been associated with more poorly transmissible variants (for example XBB) [ed. ]; however, it is unclear if stronger ACE2 binding affinity is associated with greater transmissibility beyond a certain point.

Higher ACE2 affinity may allow the virus to tolerate further mutations while still maintaining the ability to transmit. It is important to continue to monitor BA.2.86 for further potential antigenic changes going forward.
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Of 48 cases, 10 cases were hospitalised, 2 were tested in an emergency department, and 6 cases have unknown hospitalisation status. There were no known deaths due to COVID-19 among these cases. This data cannot be used to estimate a hospitalisation rate since most testing and genomic surveillance is among people in hospital.
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Figure 1. Number of confirmed BA.2.86 cases by specimen date as of 18 September 2023


Figure 2. Age-sex breakdown of BA.2.86 cases as of 18 September 2023 [ed. BA.2.86 sexism confirmed]

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Figure 3. Proportion of sequences uploaded to GISAID since 1 July 2023 that are identified as BA.2.86
Sequences are grouped by week of collection and coloured by world region. Sequence data from the UK has been shown separately to those from other European countries. Where the collection date is not available, the submission date has been used. The proportion of sequences which are BA.2.86 is indicated by the bar (left-hand axis). The total number of sequences in GISAID per week is shown by the black line (right-hand axis), and the total number of BA.2.86 sequences within each week is shown by the number above each bar. Data as of 18 September 2023.


Laboratory investigations
Neutralisation studies
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In these data sets, neutralisation titres against BA.2.86 are slightly higher than titres against XBB.1.5 in 3 of 4 UK serum group data, and lower in one serum group [ed. the one using live virus...]. This suggests that the strength of antibody mediated protection against BA.2.86 in the UK population is likely to be similar than against the recently circulating XBB.1.5 variant.

Figure 4. Combined UK neutralisation assay data for serum groups
Serum groups tested are described in the text below. Serum group A is from the Screaton group at Oxford University, B from the Pirbright Institute, C from Vaccine Development and Evaluation Centre (VDEC) UKHSA, D from Glasgow Centre for Virus Research (CVR). Pre and Post are Moderna pre- and post-titres for the whole cohort.


Supplementary data is not available for this figure.

Data set A is pseudovirus neutralisation data from 19 samples collected over the previous year, with a mixture of confirmed infection backgrounds.
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Data set B is pseudovirus neutralisation data from samples from the CONSENSUS study, a UKHSA study of SARS-CoV-2 antibody levels in older adults. Participants had received 4 doses of monovalent Wuhan vaccine, followed by a fifth dose of Wuhan /BA.1 bivalent and a sixth dose of Wuhan /BA.4-5 bivalent.
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Data set C is live virus neutralisation data using samples donated by UKHSA and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) staff members after routine vaccination. It should be noted that the assay used to generate this data had not been optimised and system suitability criteria were not in place. Genomic sequencing also showed the furin cleavage site (FCS) (s1/s2 boundary) has an unexpected amino acid change (681RWRAR). A further 3 virus isolates from additional samples are now available, none of which have the mutation at the FCS, and analysis is ongoing. The data was generated by members of the Pre-Clinical and Clinical Evaluation teams, both part of VDEC at UKHSA.

Data set D is pseudovirus neutralisation data from serum samples from 36 participants in the COVID-19 DeplOyed VaccinE Cohort Investigation (DOVE) study.
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Variant prevalence
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Figure 5. Prevalence of Pango lineages in the UK sequence data with a specimen date from week beginning 27 March 2023 to week beginning 4 September 2023, as of 14 September 2023

The total number of valid sequence results per week is shown by the black line. The ‘Other’ category in this plot contains all lineages that do not meet the relevant criteria after combining smaller sub-lineages. ‘Unassigned’ are sequences that could not be assigned a lineage by Pangolin. BA.2.86 and lineages present in at least 2% of sequences in the most recent week are labelled to the right of the plot.
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Insanite posted:

i really do think that discussion of the normalization of covid-driven mass death and disability should be in bounds for the covid thread, but i'm just a random poster. i kind of think that's what that poster was getting at?

parasocial weirdness or going right to "celebrity must've got got! covid!" is less tasteful.

Gildiss posted:

But he also had covid for the first time in December 22.

speng31b posted:

having read the past few pages pretty carefully I haven't seen anyone suggest that it's against the rules to talk about the larger implications of covid death and disability, or even under reporting of it in principle.

Bringing up Matt's situation in that context is weird as gently caress though. Like this, this is a super weird to point out in the current context.