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tenderjerk posted:it rules that we have gaslit ourselves as a society to where summer flu is a thing you get every summer and I think has always been a thing?? Lmao and the year long "allergy season"
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Sep 26, 2023 16:21
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Thoguh posted:And at the same time gloves weren't standard PPE for doctors either. It's kind of crazy that it feels like there was a catastrophic change in the administrative capacity of the US in the last 20 years but nothing that happened in the last 20 years quite feels dramatic enough. Like I can't draw a line between 9/11 and "we no longer attempt to improve health outcomes for our citizens" and nothing else that's happened since then is nearly as dramatic. And I know that the actual answer is "the cumulative effects of reactionary judges finally broke the back of the administrative state and now the only force in the country is inertia" but like, future historians are going to want to point to some singular event like the Battle of Manzikert or something.
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Sep 26, 2023 16:21
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I have literally never heard of this stuff before https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1706616232420802781 It's almost as if we just suddenly had our population become immunocompromised for some reason that's allowing other obscure diseases to make a surge
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Sep 26, 2023 16:24
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I think the facade of public health was always hollow it just took covid to point it out capital was never going to do the things necessary to combat covid
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Sep 26, 2023 16:26
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euphronius posted:I think the facade of public health was always hollow it just took covid to point it out i think giving up on covid made it illogical to do anything but give up on anything less immediately dangerous than covid, which unfortunately is most aspects of public health. so we just gotta give up as hard as we can wherever we can, forever
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Sep 26, 2023 16:29
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Tulip posted:It's kind of crazy that it feels like there was a catastrophic change in the administrative capacity of the US in the last 20 years but nothing that happened in the last 20 years quite feels dramatic enough. Like I can't draw a line between 9/11 and "we no longer attempt to improve health outcomes for our citizens" and nothing else that's happened since then is nearly as dramatic. It was the election of Obama being used as a wedge to vilify any and all government action OP as stated a few posts up, the smoking bans were the last effective public health measures we ever did and they're also the last effective public policy things we ever did. the right leveraged racism to make the government illegitimate in all ways
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Sep 26, 2023 16:36
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i do wonder if we'll eventually see MAID pushes for people who are on their tenth infection or whatever in the US. someone might make some nice money on it. picture a pharma ad depicting a 35-year-old walking over a hill toward a lovely sunset. "you've had a good life, but when you know, you know. quietus: end it on your terms."
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Sep 26, 2023 16:38
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euphronius posted:really breaking my brain that people are just saying “well it’s cold and flu season so” to be fair, the US CDC kicks off the next flu season next Monday but also,  what could possibly be happening here?!??
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Sep 26, 2023 16:41
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I got a slut juice appointment at CVS for Friday. Now, I'm just waiting for inevitable text informing me that they've run out of vaccine and to try rescheduling another appointment at a future date.
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Sep 26, 2023 16:46
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To add to the great points being made about public health, the mass adoption of social media seemingly fused together and further aligned the existing overlap between the batshit conspiracy theory crowd , the 'crunchy' crowd, and the far right. This created such a powerful, reactionary, and insulated environment, that it's nearly impossible for any outside voice to break through.
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Sep 26, 2023 16:49
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The new trend from Long Covid denialists/BPS school proponents/FND pushers seems to be re-branding their forty year old regurgitated garbage as "bold" and "new" and "fresh" and "a paradigm shift". gently caress these people. https://twitter.com/AlanCarson15/status/1705674937497751842 https://twitter.com/benryanwriter/status/1706436832022471162 (Also, who the gently caress is that Eli Klein dude? He shows up in literally every Long Covid thread making GBS threads on patients. He seems to do nothing but harass the sick and disabled, what a vile, ugly, horrible little man.) A good rebuttal in which Dr. Iwasaki is trying her goddamned best to not betray her incredulity at the lack of evidence or even a convincing disease mechanism offered by the FND proponents. https://twitter.com/AnilvanderZee/status/1705051650405069241 (ME/CFS history pt. 4 coming at some point, last three months have been 80% in bed, and when I was up I was building a Linux based Plex streaming server for my parents/me to use and populating it with
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Sep 26, 2023 16:52
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Thoguh posted:And at the same time gloves weren't standard PPE for doctors either. it's time to let me smoke in bars again.
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Sep 26, 2023 16:53
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Zodium posted:it's time to let me smoke in bars again. hot take: it would reduce Covid transmission in bars
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Sep 26, 2023 17:02
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Really not feeling optimistic about the future generally.
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Sep 26, 2023 17:04
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Animal-Mother posted:Really not feeling optimistic about the future generally. Wow, do you want Donald Trump to win?
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Sep 26, 2023 17:05
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mdemone posted:hot take: it would reduce Covid transmission in bars It would do the opposite as we already have several studies that shows that air pollution increases covid transmission by both damaging the lungs and give the virus another comfy seat hitching a ride on the particles
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Sep 26, 2023 17:06
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NeonPunk posted:It would do the opposite as we already have several studies that shows that air pollution increases covid transmission by both damaging the lungs and give the virus another comfy seat hitching a ride on the particles well, poo poo.
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Sep 26, 2023 17:06
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NeonPunk posted:I have literally never heard of this stuff before I think the only thing that might even register to people in general is a significant enough lethality, since covid propaganda has eased people into thinking if a disease doesn't kill you there's no problem.
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Sep 26, 2023 17:12
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Zodium posted:it's time to let me smoke in bars again. the things that we think of as dangerous as compared to covid, which is over, are nuts. drunk driving? gently caress, positively responsible compared to indoor dining. if you're over 40, a covid infection is more dangerous than piloting small planes for several hundred hours. maybe i'll learn how to fly sailplanes if i'm not done in by having kids in school by then. hard to get exact figures, but looks like 100 hours of that is about equivalent to a single covid infection.
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Sep 26, 2023 17:16
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Insanite posted:oh my loving god, i called to check on things and give the pax/remdesivir spiel and he told me that his doctor told him to "wait a day, and then test again" just to be sure.  Sorry everything is so stupid. Like, what's even the benefit in waiting another day? Why are doctors like this?
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Sep 26, 2023 17:41
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It's really getting harder and harder to combat all of this bullshit. The worst people in the world have thoroughly won the information war, and not only were they able to rewrite history, but they've somehow managed to rewrite what's actually taking place in real time. It's absolutely insane.
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Sep 26, 2023 17:44
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cybernetic capitalism ftw
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Sep 26, 2023 17:53
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euphronius posted:I think the facade of public health was always hollow it just took covid to point it out celadon posted:i think giving up on covid made it illogical to do anything but give up on anything less immediately dangerous than covid, which unfortunately is most aspects of public health. so we just gotta give up as hard as we can wherever we can, forever 
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Sep 26, 2023 17:56
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NeonPunk posted:I have literally never heard of this stuff before this was big time early LAST winter in these parts. lol just going from region to region doing the virus boogie
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Sep 26, 2023 17:57
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celadon posted:i think giving up on covid made it illogical to do anything but give up on anything less immediately dangerous than covid, which unfortunately is most aspects of public health. so we just gotta give up as hard as we can wherever we can, forever I forget which country it was but the "kids can come to school with symptomatic chicken pox because asymptomatic chicken pox exists and that's too hard to deal with so who cares, go nuts" thing was a nice crack-ping the other day.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:00
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Why Am I So Tired posted:I forget which country it was but the "kids can come to school with symptomatic chicken pox because asymptomatic chicken pox exists and that's too hard to deal with so who cares, go nuts" thing was a nice crack-ping the other day. at least their parents aren’t forcibly infecting them with chickenpox like my generation shouldn’t the chickenpox vaccine be administered before school age anyways? oh right we have recently learned that vaccines don’t grant immunity and a lot of people will go out of their way to not get vaccinated
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Sep 26, 2023 18:03
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Covid doesn't exist and is mild, therefore all infectious disease doesn't exist, is unavoidable, and is mild.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:06
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Much of the income podcasts like Stuff You Should Know make is from live events and Chapo is no different. They were doing live shows into April 2020 when it was already well known that large gatherings killed people. So gently caress ‘em. free pfc! christman is a murderer! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 26, 2023 18:06
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Why Am I So Tired posted:I forget which country it was but the "kids can come to school with symptomatic chicken pox because asymptomatic chicken pox exists and that's too hard to deal with so who cares, go nuts" thing was a nice crack-ping the other day. https://twitter.com/Alitis__/status/1704937105678327914
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Sep 26, 2023 18:07
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Insanite posted:i do wonder if we'll eventually see MAID pushes for people who are on their tenth infection or whatever in the US. You're going to have the following choice at the voting booth in like fifteen years: Democrats: we need to enable means tested access to ethical medically assisted dying so that all the people maimed by our policies can quietly and mildly kill themselves, bless Republicans: parasites are sucking the blood of our pure white society and must be purged
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Sep 26, 2023 18:15
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The Oldest Man posted:You're going to have the following choice at the voting booth in like fifteen years: seems like it's shaping up to be the most important election of our lifetimes
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Sep 26, 2023 18:22
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RadiRoot posted:free pfc! christman is a murderer! dont want to eat a 6er for covid scolding or w/e but one chapo covid thread-related thing i remember is felix going from following and posting about eric fiegl-ding to following and posting about chise, right around the time they did their 2020 tour, and i thought it was kind of a funny trajectory
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Sep 26, 2023 18:28
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I've been reading about the covid wave and wondering when it'll hit people I know. Well: Suddenly, just today, my son is sick and we kept him home. Someone I know in another state is sick. Someone I know in colorado is sick. 2 people I know in CA are sick. This is just today!!! I've been hearing nothing from people I know until now. It's like suddenly it's all 'coming together' as it were. edit: looks like we're past the peak of the wave, according to the walgreens covid index. Somehow it's hitting people I know today though. https://www.walgreens.com/healthcare-solutions/covid-19-index
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Sep 26, 2023 18:39
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it is covid season.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:41
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we're on the back side of the wave that will become the trough until the holidays when the actual wave hits
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Sep 26, 2023 18:43
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NeonPunk posted:I have literally never heard of this stuff before I mentioned this last year but my coworker who was a totally healthy - never missed a day of work kind of guy - after his 3rd covid infection got hospitalized from CMV - a virus that normally only is a risk to literal babies. We are really in a new world with medical poo poo. It took them over a week to even diagnose him because it wasnt a virus they were looking for in a 40 year old healthy man.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:50
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redreader posted:I've been reading about the covid wave and wondering when it'll hit people I know. Well: My team at work is about a dozen people. Since mid august we've had 1 or 2 people from that group pop positive every single week. The intern was this week's sacrifice to Applebee's.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:53
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Gunshow Poophole posted:we're on the back side of the wave that will become the trough until the holidays when the actual wave hits I'm not even sure what the trough is gonna look like. Iowa has been riding high since at least the 4th of July and isn't showing signs of going down yet.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:54
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*looks in direction of Honeywell half-mask respirator* it may be time again, my sweet
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Sep 26, 2023 18:55
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Due to being a broke bitch with broke bitch healthcare I can’t get my covid booster anywhere right now. This sucks. Wish there was still government money for these kinds of things.
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Sep 26, 2023 18:58
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