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redshirt posted:I guess I am a little rusty on my Goa'uld history: Wasn't Ra on Earth for thousands of years? i never watched the movie so i know nothing of ra but in the show from what ive seen so far is that goa'uld found earth and took humans at alot of various times but mostly around ancient egypt / china / greece and transplanted them onto various planets. i get the feeling that earth as a territory changed hands alot or was a communal host bowl. they made the jaffa out of humans. i dont disagree with the language should of changed very drastically but i just take that at face value for the show to work. theres some timeline inconsistencies because midevil european christian village planet cant exist because they buried the star gate how did sokkokar get them. and also how are the ancients roman but goulad are the first chineese emperor and the gods of egypt and greece. considering rome is after all of those and goa'uld stole stargate tech. but you can make up some poo poo in your brain to ignore it. sokkokar flew there then idk forgot how to get there. and the romans just called themselves road builders after the ancients and modelled their language after them.
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The movie: has very little to do with the show. In the movie it's sated Ra is the last of his kind, and the writer has proven to be angry that others were made to exist in the show and that the Gate goes to more than 1 location. I just pretend it doesn't exist. It doesn't even have the same actors. Jack has the wrong numbers of ls in his last name in the movie, it's clearly another universe. e: do watch the movies that are related to the show, Ark of Truth (wraps up the final plot arc after it was canceled) and continuum (a fun very fun baal story) pixaal fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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pixaal posted:The movie: has very little to do with the show. In the movie it's sated Ra is the last of his kind, and the writer has proven to be angry that others were made to exist in the show and that the Gate goes to more than 1 location. I just pretend it doesn't exist. It doesn't even have the same actors. Jack has the wrong numbers of ls in his last name in the movie, it's clearly another universe. It's still in canon, just with some sizeable differences. Jackson and O'Neil are basically the same even with the re-casts (and the extra L - which apparently was specifically requested by RDA, as well as a sense of humor). The discovery of the gate is the same, first use, Abydos. Jack has a son who accidentally killed himself with Jack's gun in both. But yeah, the Goa'uld are different, I don't think there were any Jaffa in the movie. Ra's death is the same in both.
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It technically is but they move so far past it it has no bearing on pretty much anything that happens. The most you get from it is what Abydos culture is like, and a few nods here and there. It's always been extremely skippable. It has a very different tone, if I'd watched the movie first I probably wouldn't have considered watching the show.
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Oct 5, 2023 19:27
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redshirt posted:I guess I am a little rusty on my Goa'uld history: Wasn't Ra on Earth for thousands of years? The movie dealt with that, it took Daniel a while to figure out the people of Abydos were speaking Egyptian since they were taken 5,000 years ago and there had naturally been some linguistic drift since then (though not as much as you'd think, with Ra artificially suppressing the evolution of culture).
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pixaal posted:It technically is but they move so far past it it has no bearing on pretty much anything that happens. The most you get from it is what Abydos culture is like, and a few nods here and there. It's always been extremely skippable. 100% agreed. And the tone was very different. Little humor. What struck me the most though was the Air Force guys that go along to Abydos are these jokey idiots (not funny though) who spend time harassing the nerd Jackson. Seemed like a very odd choice, but a different time I suppose.
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The movie is one of French Stewart's crowning achievements, though
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pixaal posted:The movie: has very little to do with the show. In the movie it's sated Ra is the last of his kind, and the writer has proven to be angry that others were made to exist in the show and that the Gate goes to more than 1 location. I just pretend it doesn't exist. It doesn't even have the same actors. Jack has the wrong numbers of ls in his last name in the movie, it's clearly another universe. The show probably skipped by the movie universe one time when they used the quantum mirror
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All this theorycrafting is really amusing considering the show went out of its way to acknowledge the movie happened, from Jack saying that Ra didn't have Jaffa guards to starting with Daniel on Abydos and explaining away the Abydos is across the universe/actually the closest address to Earth inconsistency in the pilot to directly referencing the people/events of the movie in the episodes "There But For The Grace of God", "1969" and "Moebius" (among probably others).
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The language stuff for the milky way is also explained in the final eps of S8. It's a very plausible and reasonable explanation. e: they also reuse footage from the movie in Politics as flashback Leandros fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Oct 6, 2023 |
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Leandros posted:The language stuff for the milky way is also explained in the final eps of S8. It's a very plausible and reasonable explanation. What was it? I just watched some of those episodes but don't recall it coming up.
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pixaal posted:It has a very different tone, if I'd watched the movie first I probably wouldn't have considered watching the show. This is exactly why it took me so long to watch the show the first time.
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redshirt posted:What was it? I just watched some of those episodes but don't recall it coming up. the gang goes back in time and start the uprising against Ra and everyone learns english
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Leandros posted:the gang goes back in time and start the uprising against Ra and everyone learns english Oh yeah, that one. Still hard to extrapolate across the entire galaxy though. And even more, across other galaxies - people speak English in the Pegasus Galaxy of SGA. I know I know, it's just a show. But I think it's fun to try and explain it.
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Stargåte the movie is the SG1 in-universe produced movie made by those people from that one episode. That's my head canon and you can't change my mind
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The high budget gritty adaptation of wormhole x-treme, I love it
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10 Seasons and a Movie!
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Sentient Data posted:The high budget gritty adaptation of wormhole x-treme, I love it Yeah, exactly.
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redshirt posted:Oh yeah, that one. Still hard to extrapolate across the entire galaxy though. And even more, across other galaxies - people speak English in the Pegasus Galaxy of SGA. I mean almost everyone the team encounters is either highly advanced, came from Earth, or has been coexisting with humans for a long time (or doesn't speak English). If after 5000 years of being used, English somehow stayed exactly the same it would explain the MW. Explaining also Atlantis....the only thing I could dream up is that the Lantean language basically stopped being spoken 10k years ago both in Pegasus and on Earth, and so if language evolved deterministically, English at both ends can kind of make sense slightly sorta. Obviously that's rather a long shot of linguistic convergent evolution, but save for time travel or other shenanigans it seems the only explanation. e: or English is just the language that always arises, like the human form 
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Kinda bummed out that I'm almost done my Stargate rewatch, well with the SG-1 portion of it anyways. I still have a couple episodes and the movies. Fortunately I still have a couple seasons of Atlantis, and then Universe left too, but we all know SG-1 is peak Stargate. Watched the episode with Fred Willard last night. He's great in everything (except porno theaters apparently.) LOL at Teal'c going to see the Vagina Monologues.
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ChairmanMauzer posted:LOL at Teal'c going to see the Vagina Monologues. It has been said that all of Stargate is a joke and this is the punchline
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After the first few seasons they established SG-0, which goes ahead of SG-1 to teach everyone English.
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I was thinking, any decent Halloween costumes from sg1? I feel like they’re always just contemporary military people so it’s hard to be recognizably sg1. Whereas like Star Trek would be easy, or Star Wars.
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Eye makeup, a hand thing, and a haughty attitude is probably the way to go
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Eeyo posted:I was thinking, any decent Halloween costumes from sg1? I feel like they’re always just contemporary military people so it’s hard to be recognizably sg1. You should probably have the SGC emblem and a Zat if you're going the SG member way. Or yeah, a Jaffa or a Goa'uld would be recognizable enough (especially a first prime), but that would probably require even more props. Edit: Unless you go as Teal'c. How's your eyebrow game?
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drat, the last episode of SG1 is pretty solid. Good send off.
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Eeyo posted:I was thinking, any decent Halloween costumes from sg1? I feel like they’re always just contemporary military people so it’s hard to be recognizably sg1. Once I went to the Renaissance festival and as we passed the entrance plaza once there was a group of dudes in tactical gear chatting up the dudes dressed as town guards. Everyone was giving them a lot of space and eyeing them nervously. Then I saw the P-90s and the pyramid symbol on their shoulders, and relaxed. "Oh, it's cool guys, just a Stargate team."
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ChairmanMauzer posted:Kinda bummed out that I'm almost done my Stargate rewatch, well with the SG-1 portion of it anyways. I still have a couple episodes and the movies. Fred Willard as the con man who can't stop won't stop was amazing. Him ad-libbing the styrofoam packing as a sex enhancer at the end.
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Cthulu Carl posted:Once I went to the Renaissance festival and as we passed the entrance plaza once there was a group of dudes in tactical gear chatting up the dudes dressed as town guards. Everyone was giving them a lot of space and eyeing them nervously. Then I saw the P-90s and the pyramid symbol on their shoulders, and relaxed. "Oh, it's cool guys, just a Stargate team." I love it when people do gags like this, I've also heard about people dressed like Starfleet officers treating it like the holodeck and WH40k Imperial governors of Feudal Worlds.
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ChairmanMauzer posted:drat, the last episode of SG1 is pretty solid. Good send off. Yeah, great episode, but I was kinda taken by surprise by how little closure it offered on the storyline. I read that they thought there would be another season was the reason. Hence the movie, which did resolve that big storyling.
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redshirt posted:Yeah, great episode, but I was kinda taken by surprise by how little closure it offered on the storyline. I read that they thought there would be another season was the reason. Yea, lucky the movies are both solid. To a certain degree SG-1 is perfect for a "and the adventure continues" type ending.
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Also the show is specifically about SG-1. I bet the other SG teams did some cool stuff too
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Scratch Monkey posted:Also the show is specifically about SG-1. I bet the other SG teams did some cool stuff too There's at least 22 SG teams, and some of them have specialties. I think teams 3-5 are marines. There's a diplomatic team. An archeology team. Etc.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Also the show is specifically about SG-1. I bet the other SG teams did some cool stuff too I mean mostly they just all died, but I'm sure at least some of them died doing cool stuff!!!
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Lower Decks, but a night shift at the SGC with weird unscheduled inbound wormholes.
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*thump*, *thump*, *th-thump* "Okay, that's it for the inbound! Who had 4 into the iris on the deadpool this time around?"
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Sentient Data posted:Now I want to see a Reno 911 style SG team most jaffa wear pants but i wear shorts because it allows me more flexibility to kick gou'ald rear end. i finished the cassandra puberty episode. so i guess nirrti wasnt dead like i assumed. also i was like cool they returned to the unas home world already then it was oh a bummer slavery episode but i doubt its the last we see of that. I think they could of handled the episode better but they did ok w/ it for a 90s show. the shows pretty progressive for the 90s. I dont have time to watch any more episodes but this next one being a mesopotamian zigguart thats russians smoke outside of seems interesting. snergle fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Oct 8, 2023 |
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