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Sorry, I'm just broken that way.
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fresh_cheese posted:hey - pretend im dumb: why do we need more than one “-“ ?
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Oct 17, 2023 17:02
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fresh_cheese posted:god. i really am a relic of a bygone time. also same
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Oct 17, 2023 17:06
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it's funny because most people won't know if it's - or – without seeing both side by side, since on most fonts there's barely a difference also just decided that if i need to loving google how to type a character on a keyboard because it's used so seldom and looks very similar to another character, maybe it shouldn't exist in user documentation for an interface where you can accidentally nuke critical infrastructure if you paste the wrong one lmfao like good, lord we really need an OSHA or similar for computers already, it's still a loving wild west where everyone just does whatever they want
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Oct 17, 2023 17:14
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some ghost of christmas future poo poo to have blanksystemdaemon to join up to go "yeah, modernizing this sucks" in this conversation
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Oct 17, 2023 17:14
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Truga posted:it's funny because most people won't know if it's - or – without seeing both side by side, since on most fonts there's barely a difference you're confusing hyphen and en dash, the issue here is HYPHEN MINUS (-) and HYPHEN (‐) and MINUS (‐) yes, fonts map all three extended grapheme clusters to the same glyph
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Oct 17, 2023 17:26
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lol that's even funnier
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Oct 17, 2023 18:05
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pseudorandom name posted:you're confusing hyphen and en dash, the issue here is HYPHEN MINUS (-) and HYPHEN (‐) and MINUS (‐) lol
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Oct 17, 2023 18:33
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FlapYoJacks posted:I'm a sick gently caress who doesn't care about font rendering. Stock Adwaita fonts with 125% scaling on Gnome. Don't care, I have better things to do.
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Oct 17, 2023 18:37
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pseudorandom name posted:you're confusing hyphen and en dash, the issue here is HYPHEN MINUS (-) and HYPHEN (‐) and MINUS (‐) let me interject for a moment, what you guys are referring to as hyphen, is in fact, hyphen/minus, or as I've recently taken to calling it, hyphen plus minus.
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Oct 17, 2023 18:41
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it does at least harmonize with the rest of tech that the linux thread true believers don't give a poo poo about user experience, because i don't think anyone was ever going to argue with most years being the year of linux on the anonymous vm you touch as little as possible
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Oct 17, 2023 18:51
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en dashes are a secret handshake for typography snobs to recognize other typography snobs.
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Oct 17, 2023 18:54
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em dash supreme
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Oct 17, 2023 19:42
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as "dash", is in fact, em dash, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, em plus dash. Dash is not a comma replacer unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning compound word made useful by the set of rules comprising a full language as defined by English.
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Oct 17, 2023 20:40
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https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/212964/en-us/ posted:Added support for the CTM, DEGAMMA_LUT, and GAMMA_LUT DRM-KMS CRTC properties. These are used by features such as the "Night Light" feature in GNOME and the "Night Color" feature in KDE, when they are used as Wayland compositors. finally! 
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Nitrousoxide posted:I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as "dash", is in fact, em dash, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, em plus dash. Dash is not a comma replacer unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning compound word made useful by the set of rules comprising a full language as defined by English.
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oh god please use this correctly cropped version:
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yea see, i got bit by that “-“ is not “-“ poo poo last week and spent loving hours trying to figure out why my loving yaml was not parsing correctly. its because some “-“ opinion having motherfucker put a “-“ instead of a “-“ in the example documentation with the helpful ‘click here to select and copy this whole box to your paste buffer’ button and then, when i clicked it, and pasted it into a terminal, saved it, and tried to apply it DIDNT loving WORK keep your goddamned typography out of my loving examples user experience my rear end
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Oct 17, 2023 23:35
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it's probably a linux thing but there's somebody out there putting automatic two-character ligatures into fixed-width fonts that then get used on web pages and i want to strangle them
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also gently caress whoever made smart “ a thing. do not loving change my “ to some other identical “ which also prevents example code from running. your user experience improvements are a piece of poo poo
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Oct 18, 2023 00:06
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how do you even type those out, i only get "
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Oct 18, 2023 00:07
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Truga posted:how do you even type those out, i only get " the ios keyboard does it by default, and i think the default mac text editor does it too
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Oct 18, 2023 00:09
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copying shell commands out of a vendor's PDF documentation but having to fix up all the line breaks, ligatures, quotes, and dashes to get it to run
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Oct 18, 2023 00:09
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ASCII motherfucker! Do you speak it?!
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Oct 18, 2023 00:12
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shackleford posted:copying shell commands out of a vendor's PDF documentation but having to fix up all the line breaks, ligatures, quotes, and dashes to get it to run
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Oct 18, 2023 00:28
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lmbo that em dashes — one of the best punctuation marks — breaks linux so bad
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:one of the best punctuation marks 
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Oct 18, 2023 00:32
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em dashes aren't the issue
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Oct 18, 2023 00:34
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no, people who use em dashes in examples in digital form, and tools which allow em dashes when the rendered target is an example are the problem maybe if Courier only had the normal “ and - and everyone used it for examples thatd help?
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Oct 18, 2023 00:54
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whats em dash?
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not much, whats em dash with you?
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Oct 18, 2023 01:18
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Eeyo posted:i've been using an external dvd drive on my linux desktop (lmao). ok i know nobody cares about my problem, but it turns out it’s because i was on xfce and an update somehow uninstalled the packages the file manager uses to auto mount drives. now it works again.
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Oct 18, 2023 01:21
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my knee jerk reaction is wtf why can you have multiple types of - in a terminal that sounds like a recipe for pain. but otoh having foreign languages able to have a text-based interface that works as well as it does when us dumb anglophones use ascii is also good. like do japanese people type out japanese characters on the command line? but clearly whatever typesets the documentation needs to just work and not spit out weird dashes on examples because nobody is ever going to fix the documentation lmao.
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Eeyo posted:ok i know nobody cares about my problem, but it turns out it’s because i was on xfce and an update somehow uninstalled the packages the file manager uses to auto mount drives. why does your distro/desktop not use udisks, it's been the standard for something like 10 years now
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Oct 18, 2023 01:45
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fresh_cheese posted:no, people who use em dashes in examples in digital form, and tools which allow em dashes when the rendered target is an example are the problem no, it's stupider than that, they're replacing U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS (i.e. the - key on your keyboard, and the byte sequence that command line parsers recognize) with the visually identical U+2010 HYPHEN, not an en dash. this is in spite of ~40 years of precedence where an 0x2D in the input file would result in an 0x2D displayed on the terminal, suitable for copying and pasting directly into the command line.
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Oct 18, 2023 02:32
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no I think everyone agrees that it’s linux and Richard stallman’s fault
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fresh_cheese posted:also gently caress whoever made smart “ a thing. do not loving change my “ to some other identical “ which also prevents example code from running. the QKS SmalltalkAgents environment treated straight quotes and double-quotes almost identically to typographers’ quotes and double-quotes straight quotes and double-quotes got you String literals and comments, respectively, while typographers’ quotes and double-quotes got you StyledString literals and styled comments and since this was OO and StyledString was a subclass of String everything just worked
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Oct 18, 2023 05:26
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The_Franz posted:the ios keyboard does it by default, and i think the default mac text editor does it too NSTextView and the UIKit equivalent on iOS have supported automatic smart quotes, smart dashes, and so on for 15 to 20 years now I don’t remember which Mac OS X added it but it was definitely called Mac OS X at the time
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Repeats-Merged-Usr-Block Lmfao. Every other distribution has had merged usr for what? 5+ years now?
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