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Vahakyla posted:Teaser: Not sure how the math for Ford's losses works.
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Shirts already cropping up for sale. Remember the Tik! folks shout in the streets (probably).
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Hippocrass posted:Not sure how the math for Ford's losses works. One plane lost off of the carrier yesterday, one plane lost dueling a corvette last week. EDIT: OH LMAO FIXED Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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Apologies for the double post, but the zamacueca is traditional folk music of Chile, usually played with guitar and a tambourine, sometimes with brass (tuba, trumpet). It's said that a popular new tune is being heard...they're calling it the Batalla del glaciar Vasquez (Verse 1) En una noche fría de febrero, Los soldados del Lautaro paracaídos, Se dividieron en dos fuerzas, Y se acercaron sigilosamente a su objetivo. (Chorus) Oh, la batalla del glaciar Vásquez, Una victoria chilena gloriosa, Los soldados del Lautaro pelearon, Con valentía y coraje, sin pausa. (Verse 2) Neutralizaron puestos de guardia en el camino, Avanzando dos kilómetros en la oscuridad, Alchenar y Big Soda, dos soldados de gran valor, Lideraron el ataque con determinación. (Chorus) Oh, la batalla del glaciar Vásquez, Una victoria chilena gloriosa, Los soldados del Lautaro pelearon, Con valentía y coraje, sin pausa. (Bridge) La lucha fue feroz, Pero los chilenos prevalecieron, Defendieron su patria con honor, Y a sus enemigos vencieron. (Chorus) Oh, la batalla del glaciar Vásquez, Una victoria chilena gloriosa, Los soldados del Lautaro pelearon, Con valentía y coraje, sin pausa. (Outro) Gloria a los soldados del Lautaro, Héroes de la batalla del glaciar Vásquez, Su valor y su sacrificio, Nunca serán olvidados.
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Elendil004 posted:Questions for someone smarter than me: In real life A-4s carried TV guided AGM-62 Walleye glide bombs as their primary anti-ship weapon, and were also one of the first aircraft capable of buddy-tanking. Unfortunately, neither of these features are currently in DCS (the modders would need greater access to the code to implement them). I’m not sure about blowing the runway - they could certainly disable it to some extent but honestly it’s difficult to keep a runway out of commission unless you’re just bombing it over and over. They just get bulldozed flat again. The biggest natural border in that area is the Laguna del Toro, or Bull’s Lake, which the Chilean forces just were pushed back from. Beyond that is basically open country to the east of the Andes, with a couple of narrow, shallow rivers that often dip into the ground entirely. The first major feature is going to be the Lago Argentino (Argentine Lake) and the Rio Santa Cruz (Santa Cruz River), which is just north of El Calafate Airport.
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 Admiral Ileana Maria Sampaio South American Combined Armada quote:Yo en el fondo Del Mar Descanse en paz, Tikuna. You did all you could. ARA San Juan, the sea is too rough. Return to station-keeping with the ARA Almirante Brown and the Argentine fleet and resume standard ASW fleet patrols. Tupi, welcome to the fight. Report to the NAel Minais Gerais and the Brazilian fleet and establish standard ASW fleet patrols. NAel Minais Gerais, you are to continue refit operations as you are able, but your deployment orders have been stayed pending further coordination with SCAD command. It is possible that your forces will be needed for an emergency withdrawal of troops from Tierra del Fuego. «Irse a pique antes que rendir el pabellón!« 
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Just to make the Tikuna loss sting less, here's some details on the sunk ships. #1 - 40,000 DWT Bulk Tanker : This is a fuel ship and was carrying 10,566,882 (!) gallons. (40 million liters) #2 - 16,000 DWT Container Ship : Capacity of ~ 1,100 40 Ft shipping containers, this is an older 80's era cellular container ship. #3 - 1,600 DWT Container Ship : ~100 containers but able to dock at a much smaller facility. One interesting note is it's likely both of these area "geared" ships and able to self unload. This is fairly common on the 1,600 DWT ships, but very few of the 16,000 DWT have this capability. So not only have they lost what was in those ships, but lost the logistics capability to self unload a large quantity of containers. The fuel load is massive. To put this into perspective, an armored division could use up to 600,000 gallons per day for full maneuvers. Whatever dreams the PLA had for an armored breakout just went down the tubes.
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Losing 30% of the F-16 A/B MLU seems pretty rough. And supply situations getting into the yellow at Rio Turbio and Puerto Natales could be a hindrance if fresh cargo flights can't get there. But taking out a decent sized tanker is gonna limit PLA and PLAN attacks, probably. I can't imagine they have a ton of fuel readily available. Still, that's what, one of two active Brazilian subs and the more modern one to boot being lost?
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 Game Master updates -------------------------------- Update 1: The Radar site at Vasquez Glacier is currently connected and in the hands of the Chilean SF.  The site is providing radar coverage to the southern areas. So far, during early morning hours of the 18th of Feb, it has detected three contacts: Contact 1: Large bomber plane patrolling close to Antarctica, red circle Contact 2: Likely ASW helicopters patrolling near the shipping line, maroon circle Contact 3: Sporadic slow speed transport flights to Almirante Schröders Airport, purple line The SF team reports no action but is maintaining constant patrols around the glacier. ---------------------------------- Update 2: Here's what we know about the enemy air situation currently. Due to the heavy air combat and the significant losses the PLAAF took over the Strait on the battles of the 17th, these are the current estimates: PLAAF Ushuia airport 1st PLAAF Squadron, J-7G ESTIMATE: Perhaps 4 or 6 Fully Mission Capable 4th PLAAF Squadron, An-26 ESTIMATE: unknown Mount Pleasant Airport: 2nd PLAAF Squadron, J-7G ESTIMATE: unknown 3rd PLAAF Squadron, J-11 ESTIMATE: Only 2 or 4 total according to the American intel brief some time ago. Rio Grande Airport 5th PLAAF Squadron, J-7G ESTIMATE: none to some fully mission capable The PLAAF will likely try to equalize the J-7s between the 1st and 5th Squadron to keep both airports capable of basic defensive counter-air missions. -------------------------------- Update 3: Falklands shipping lines were interdicted by the late Tikuna. Several ships were sunk. It will not be precisely known for some time what all was aboard the ships, but it can not be ignored how important large ships like that are to the PLAN Sealift. It is very likely that the ships either held entire squadrons of fighters, or combat brigades of ground troops. -----------------------------
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Naval Orders are executed. Tupi is headed to the Brazilian Fleet. ARA San Juan is headed to the Argentine fleet. Orders for CNS O'Higgings and the Chilean fleet, and the detached corvette CNS Aspirante Isanza? In addition, while sailing back, ARA San Juan trailed a large group of ships, likely the 1st PLAN Fleet, sailing on a 330 heading at 14 knots at coordinates South: 53.67236, West: 64.76665
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TO: General Carlos, FAP FROM: Ministry of National Defense Chile SUBJECT: Chinese Demands Dear General Carlos, Supreme Commander CSAD Have you seen the Chinese demands? The latest information has been causing an uproar around here, and our Bolivian, Ecuadorian, and Peruvian attaches are even saying we should consider such a deal as a way to get a ceasefire and the path to peace. What is your assessment? v/r Secretary to the Minister of Defence Lord Stimperor posted:There are some developments.
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Elendil004 posted:Questions for someone smarter than me: Got two of your answers: -- The A-4E as modeled in DCS has no specific anti-ship munitions. Shrikes might work if the ship is using air search radar but are perilously inaccurate. Zunis work, but are unguided, you'll need a lot of them, and they are fairly inaccurate at range. -- I believe buddy-tanking is not possible in DCS at the moment because of how it simulates fuel. There are no aircraft that support it. The AV8B harrier does have an anti-ship version of the Maverick. the AGM-65F so if we could get that British AAS floating again that would have some good ship strike options (assuming the brits have the F variant). JerikTelorian fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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  Supremo Comandante SCAD General del Aire Carlos - FAP To Lockheed Martin HQ, Bethesda, Maryland, EE. UU. Greetings. We would like to request some support for the defense of South America which, of course, means also the defense of the Western Hemisphere by extension. We really could use some JHMCS devices to enhance our pilots' capability to protect our airspace and deal with the PLA. We also ask for the support of some of your technicians. Of course your efforts will be generously rewarded with some of the finest products of this region. Many crates of them, in fact.   Arriba, siempre arriba
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Negostrike posted:
Lockmart is willing to satisfy this deal if you charter out services to transport the fitting kits and engineers to El Calafate from Bethesda, MD. The US State Dept has agreed to an emergency Foreign Military Sales to facilitate the fitment of JHMCS devices to all newer and older F-16 models in theater. They will be useable after delivery and after one ingame DCS day has passed, so not the next operation yet.
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Lord Stimperor posted:There are some developments. This offer of peace is bullshit. Why? Because if we accept it, some fail-sons from the School of the Americas will declare themselves Presidents in exile, we will face CIA rightwing death squads, and sanctions. Western leaders, chiefly the UK and Us, will renegotiate their belief in the sovereignty of our nations and may outright attack our forces. As appealing as sueing for peace may be, we might be better off fighting off the PRC than dealing with the West becoming overly emotional if we make any sovereign decisions without them. (And if we fight and fail, the West might not emotionally react and punish us as hard as if we choose peace while casualties and civilian hardship are still low). We are between a rock and a hard place in CSAD. but if this changes, will gladly start flying missions alongside the PRC against a western battle fleet
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UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE Lore recap: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4042524&userid=199865&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post535284018 Somewhere in the South Atlantic, on a northerly course, HMS Agincourt moves to periscope depth to utilize its secret uplink. It has sailed north as fast as it could after its raid on Goose Green at Falklands, and it believes it is far enough from any threats.   quote:SWORD The Agincourt has sent maps and information to the Royal Navy's submarine command. The PLAN officer that was killed on Goose Green and whose satchel was taken by Swimmer Canoeist Arbitrary was visiting the site from his other assignment. It appears he has been working on a secret site in Angola, Africa, where the orbits of many important Five Eyes satellites pass. The engineers have been building silos and various radar and detection arrays not too far from the coast in a fairly sparsely populated part of the Angolan countryside. This is believed by the UK to be part of the PLA ASAT program.  If this would be true, it would be a grave danger. Not only would it explain PLAs push to the western side of Africa, but it would put several nation's satellites at risk. However, the UK nor US do not have forces currently nearby, nor ability to strike the site. Options are being explored. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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So I'm just casually walking by and telling you a fun fact, no reason at all, that the SU25T can actually carry some pretty big guided missiles, which might gently caress up a boat, no particular reason E: actually to be clear Im asking whether you'd deem it feasible to swarm boats with froggies Lord Stimperor fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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THOSE boats? Probably not. Could work with a full 25T group letting em rip tho. Splash script (if active) would make em super effective.
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That Works posted:I also hope that a glossary gets added itt, it would be useful for many. In the meantime these might help for some things: this is actually very useful, is there space to add it to op? I have zero chance of participating, my only sim experience is loading up DCS demo, admiring the buttons and flicking them, then steering majestically into a ditch. gonna watch with keen interest though!
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Somewhere in the South Atlantic, not too far from Saint Helena, HMS Agincourt sails south when it detects a new sonar contact, bearing 175. Luckily most officers are already awake, and they gather to listen to the sonar operator give their classification of the contact. "That can't be." The seas are rough, and it's stormy. The captain takes a calculated risk and chooses to use partial periscope surfacing to hopefully stay protected among the waves for anti-periscope radar scans. After half an hour of nerve-straining maneuvering between escorts and other ships, the Agincourt creeps closer and the periscope goes up. Its picture is shown on the screen.   "Lower the periscope, dive to 25, maneuver for two-seven-zero!" yells the captain. "Down periscope! Helm maneuvering for two-seven-zero aye, diving 25" HMS Agincourt slips under the waves. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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Vahakyla posted:
gently caress me dead, how important is this front? How is China tied up in SEA and have the means and resources available to send out an entire CARRIER? Don't they only have the one? Either way, a contingent of J15s over the front is not going to spell well for our air arm, if they've been getting stiff resistance from J7s of all things. Talk about some bad news. Still, an entire carrier? Could it be the Russian one?
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sebmojo posted:this is actually very useful, is there space to add it to op? We are looking for a forum-based Intelligence officer if you're interested in joining that way! We also need Air Battle Managers that direct pilots to their targets. There's lots of ways to join the fight if you get interested!
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Kaal posted:We are looking for a forum-based Intelligence officer if you're interested in joining that way! We also need Air Battle Managers that direct pilots to their targets. There's lots of ways to join the fight if you get interested! i've actually got too many projects to pick up another one unfortunately so i think i'll just spectate! happy to help arrange for gang tags or av kill medals or w/e.
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TO: General Humberto, EA FROM: Colonel Santiago, 11th Mech Brigade, EA URGENT URGENT URGENT Cruise missiles have struck near the ferry terminal at Punta Delgada. The ferry is working, and most of the facilities were not hit. Large number of trucks were damaged but the missiles did not hit anything vital at this point. Unknown origin.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------- TO: General Figueroa Scholz, FACh FROM: Comandante de escuadrilla Rodriguez, 7th Aviation Squadron Ma'am, Our E-3 sentry detected 6 cruise missiles inbound from roughly bearing 165 from AO Arrow at estimated 1934hrs Lima-time. They disapppeared from radar near northern tip of Tierra del Fuego.  -------------------------------------- GAME MASTER: These are last big development updates until the next big battle is fought.
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Supremo Comandante SCAD General del Aire Carlos - FAP Vahakyla posted:TO: General Carlos, FAP As the Guarani hero Sepé Tiarajú once said to Spanish conquistadors:  "This land has an owner!" No further comments. -- Gentlecamaradas, you're probably already aware of what I have to say about our latest operations. Once again, everybody's doing their best and getting to know the enemy better. Getting to know they haven't got a clue about how big our cojones are. As big as our cojones may be, we also must fight smart. The retreat at the Punta Arenas front was pretty much foretold and we're can't waste our units on a mindless offensive, as much as we want to liberate that town at once. Nevertheless we must keep holding the line at AO BOLT and reinforce there, especially with the Comodoro Rivadavia brigade that just arrived. Concerning the eastern front at Tierra del Fuego, AO ARROW, retreat was being considered until the cruise missile attacks began. Our only way of leaving that territory is extremely compromised. Me and my fellow commanders have been discussing about a daring plan for offensive operations instead at AO ARROW. I'll let General Humberto inform you about the details soon. Those cruise missiles have been coming from the southeast of AO ARROW. The Argentine fleet shall move out to intercept those missiles or whatever is firing them. The PLA is getting weaker day by day, camaradas. Brazilian sub Tikuna just gave them a kick in the cojones after getting rid of some of their cargo ships close to the Malvinas. The Chinese will surely miss those precious supplies. Unfortunately, as you all know, they won't come back home. Their deeds will never be forgotten. You are fighting on the same side of the greatest heros of our time. We won't let their sacrifice be in vain, carajo! Seguiremos luchando! -- (Some time later) To the Ministry of Defence of the United Kingdom: Greetings. For the defense of our continent and the Western world by extension, I'd like to request one of your reconnaissance aircraft to aid in our operations. Namely a Boeing RC-135V/W Rivet Joint. Arriba, siempre arriba Negostrike fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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An offensive? Your line of supply is compromised and we go on an offensive? All it takes it another, more accurate cruise missile strike and all supplies pouring into that area are reduced from a weak trickle to some incessant drops. How does a push change the long term situation on that front? It's 2 brigades against 1 of ours, and we have no idea if they've landed units farther south at Rio Grande? They just dropped 3 brigades on the PA side of the front, what if they've dropped 2 or 3 on TDF, completely unmolested? The Tik taking out a few cargo vessels isn't going to affect them that severely.
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Quick update for those who think following the thread can be overwhelming. I'be built a Miro Board here: https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVNXXmEwU=/?share_link_id=790939748752 It offers a project management type look at all the lore so far, various AARs, plans, intel briefs, the command structure, et cetera. I will try to update it as fast as I can to collect the high points there from thread. Some screencaps:     
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Commanders After map study and ELINT conversations, we have discovered a troubling asset on Tierra del Fuego. Big Bird  This is not just an early warning radar. It is part of a sophisticated and deadly SAM system, the S-300. It will destroy anything that comes inside of that red circle. Terrain is our only defense. It will eat HARM's and poo poo out F-16 briquettes. I would highly recommend making this area a no-fly zone. It is a critical threat and effectively locks down this area until ground forces can get close enough to threaten it.
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I finally have enough time between work to follow the thread. I can answer questions about submarines and ASW and ISR but there are better people for any other questions.
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M_Gargantua posted:I finally have enough time between work to follow the thread. How caught up are you on the current situation?
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  17 1930Z FEB 2010 Colonel Forsythe, US Army, Deputy J3 (J3D) (Operations), United States Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) Doral, Florida. Colonel Forsythe did one tour as an enlisted Marine, serving in San Diego and a MEU tour in the Pacific. He then attended Texas A&M University and commissioned as an Army Aviation Officer. He flew Kiowas before transitioning to Blackhawks, where he flew extensively in the Philippines, Iraq, and then South America, mostly ferrying around a mix of diplomats, training advisors, special forces, and 3-letter agency men and women with questionable morals. He commanded an Aviation Battalion, but was passed over for tactical brigade command on his first look. However, he was still able to get an assignment prestigious by duty title, if not the most impressive set of operations, as the Future Operations Planner for USSOUTHCOM's J3. In a manning crunch, he was selected to serve as the J3D, where he has been eagerly pursuing expanding the relevance and prestige of USSOUTHCOM beyond drug interdiction, cartel wrangling, and friendly games of soccer and days at the range with the South American armed forces. He sought to turn this into a true warfighting command. He was also a psychopath. After days of frustration, Colonel Forsythe finally had approval from the foreign disclosure office to give some critical information to the "CSAD" forces who had decided to come together in earnest for the first time. In the past the CSAD had met one time per year, and now they were scrambling to put on multinational operations on the fly. He kept having to remind himself of four main things: 1. At least they weren't cutting and running. 2. It's not like USSOUTHCOM had more than a handful of helicopters, some SOF guys (who he always worried were getting too friendly with the locals rather than focusing on building warfighting capability), and they couldn't even get one of those new little crappy ships assigned to the AOR. 3. They were killing PLA Soldiers, and he liked the idea of killing PLA Soldiers. 4. If he didn't help them win, they might do something despicable. Like try some kind of "peace" deal with the PRC. And that thought disgusted him. Intel and Unasked for US Advice Drop Colonel Forsythe managed to get through on a secure line to his counterparts in Argentina and Brazil, by way of a liaison officer in-country. He passed them information good enough for a 1x2 km ellipsoidal fix on a probable Brigade Support Area or other traffic control and logistical hub just southwest of the intersection in Chilean Routes Y-71 and Y-85. There was also a likely BSA southwest of the intersection of Highway 257 and Y-79, but signals intelligence indicated presence of more than one SA-11 TELAR, the active Big Bird coverage at Rio Grande, and reports of other unspecified air defenses in the area. He did not recognize attempting any aerial strike on the the latter target. PLA forces continue to unload combat power at Rio Grande; it is not yet clear whether or not this amounted to a full brigade, or just additional regiments or supporting units. What was clear was that the divisional artillery, including rocket artillery and some conventional ballistic missiles, likely short-range or close-range, had been offloaded and were likely undergoing reception and staging, before onward movement and integration. The forces on TdF and their lines of communication would be vulnerable to these strikes once the PLA developed proper targets for its divisional rocket artillery and tactical ballistic missile forces. In the middle of his screed, a mix of praise for their bravery, but emphatic warnings, a Navy Lieutenant assigned as his exec rapped his knuckles on the frame of his door. "Sir, do you want me to wake all the officers?!" Colonel Forsythe stared. "What?" The Lieutenant disappeared from his doorway. Finally, Colonel Forsythe gave the good and bad news of support to his South American compatriots. He had all of a couple C-130s, some helicopters, zero ships, some coast guard cutters, etc. Most all of that was still operating in the Caribbean and unavailable. However, his available liaisons, rangers, and special forces teams were working with the mobilizing forces for weapons training, engineering training, and generally trying to assist where they could. Additionally, he would insert one long range reconnaissance team via HAHO to operate in TdF's rear areas with strict orders not to engage the PRC forces, but to establish and maintain contact with high value targets. "Keep up the defense, you just gotta buy some time for yourselves. They'll outrun their supplies trying to chase you in a land war, even if they outmatch you at sea." He laughed at the end of the call. "It's a good thing you guys have fighting spirit in you. Otherwise, who knows what might happen." mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Mederlock posted:How caught up are you on the current situation? Enough to know that there is a submarine involved?
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Negostrike posted:
GAME MASTER: Very well, theater commander decision is locked for gameday. AO Arrow is the focus point of gameday. You didn't specify what day it will be. Because you missed the decision timeline, this will be decided for you. In order to repair and refit all aircraft used in the alpha strike on the 17th February 2010, your maintainers require 40 hours to achieve FMC. Morning of 19th Feb it is. Weather forecast, as per above Weather officer briefing, for the 19th of February looks like this:  -- Negostrike posted:(Some time later) You'll hear back from the UK soon, I hope.
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Springfield Flight - Fuerza Aérea Ecuatoriana - 2112 Combat Squadron - Mirage F1 After Action Report Short summary - The entire theater went rear end over tea kettle. Our SEAD/DEAD buddies ended up on CAP. Springfield 1-1 on SEAD. Springfield 1-2 and 1-3 proceeded as briefed with one minor deviation leading to 1-3 performing bonus SEAD work and not returning home. RIP, R. Bolivar Banderas C., I'm proud of your accomplishments following in father's footsteps. I will avenge you!  Debrief continues below... As an aside, ingress was exciting. Join us in the Mirage F1! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...eaf963933106ad& Task Destroy both runways. Partial success. Two transport planes destroyed, along with some HQ-7 systems, and a building at the airport. Unclear if these simulated craters represent actual damage.  What Went Well Performed an orbit to give SEAD/DEAD time to do work instead of YOLOing it. Jammers carried by Springfield 1-2 and 1-3 appear to have spoiled at least one R-3R launched by a J-7. Baiting/Checking for remaining SAM/AAA threats before running in caused the HQ-7 sites to expend 8 missiles on Springfield 1-1 without effect. Attack runs performed by all members, with pre-flaring, completed without getting shot down. What Went Poorly YOLO'ed it after SEAD/DEAD was retasked to CAP, nearly lost a member to an R-3R launched by a J-7. Wind compensation could have been practiced more with sufficient weather briefing. Assumed everyone was oriented for briefed egress of reverse waypoints, did not notice Springfield 1-3 departing from plan until they took missile hit over known enemy airfield. Select Media       https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...bbcf4031281678& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...7dbe20f77a3aa0& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...cf26e5e3630b32& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...7ac438cdec92cf& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...11e8e1ff91884e&
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