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why must every goddamn thing in NetSuite be so titchy? Oh, bill credit transaction types aren't able to be exported. Why? Because gently caress you.
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Getting an accounting degree shows you can do the work, not necessarily how to do the work. That's how it was explained to me anyway and made me feel a lot better coming into my first job. Also for any job: there are bosses who remember their first day, and bosses who don't. Interviewing right now I'm making it a point to figure out good team fit and culture above all else.
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Oct 17, 2023 22:24
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Poque posted:why must every goddamn thing in NetSuite be so titchy? Oh, bill credit transaction types aren't able to be exported. Why? Because gently caress you. In the middle of a Netsuite implementation right now and kinda wishing we hadn't gone with them. Really this is the third major software implementation we've done this year and I'm just burned out on the whole process. It's all the same, sales people who promise the system can do everything you want it too then you meet the actual techs and oh, turns out it can't actually do that. Netsuite is especially bad about this, literally the worst sales process I've ever encountered. There were 6 sales meetings that were meant to be iterative but nobody retained anything from our last meeting so it was like starting from scratch with them every single time. But I've worked with/looked at enough cloud based ERPs at this point and they really do all look and act the same for the most part. Kinda like UIs or controller configurations in video games, there was a lot of differentiation at first but after a decade or so everyone's figured out what works best and just steered towards that. So if it wasn't Netsuite it'd just be Sage or Yardi or something else I'd be complaining about..
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Oct 18, 2023 16:32
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pseudanonymous posted:Have you worked at nonprofits? Because no. Nonprofit accounting roles are extremely uneven. Some are great. Others are not.
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Oct 18, 2023 17:11
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19 o'clock posted:Getting an accounting degree shows you can do the work, not necessarily how to do the work. That's how it was explained to me anyway and made me feel a lot better coming into my first job. I'll never forget that I started working about a month after one of the other students also got hired. She had way better marks than I did, but was let go after a couple of months because she couldn't put the actual concepts into practice and never felt comfortable asking for help.
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Oct 18, 2023 17:45
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Oct 18, 2023 21:48
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I had three roles (industry) at the same company before I got poached. I cried more in the first 9 months than I did in the 30 years prior. gently caress accounting.
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Oct 19, 2023 00:08
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Zarin posted:I had three roles (industry) at the same company before I got poached. Same'ish. Got poached to a job that made me question my interest in the profession after over a decade of being on good teams that didn't suck. I experienced what I believe was an anxiety attack which was pretty awful. I chalk it up to having been very lucky in my career up to that point. I know the work can be good, but that bad experience has made me really do my best to ferret out what the culture/team/work looks like with any prospective employer. E: I was also 9 months lol 19 o'clock fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 19, 2023 22:31
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Jesus, is this common? I also got poached and ended up quiting in 9 months. Racist boss, terrible management, curses and insults thrown around, and the owners stealing money and causing us to get paid late. Just glad my new job at this airplane company is way more sane.
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Oct 20, 2023 02:14
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Maybe 9 months is the tipping-point sweet spot of “I should really have either mastered this mayhem by now or else it really is just untenable carnage” for people.
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Oct 20, 2023 03:20
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Thanks for the kind words Good news got more work done the oast week and wasn't yelled at. At worst, I'm yelling at myself for not working faster. At least I am feeling like I am making less mistakes. I have gone through possibly dozens and dozens of invoices. I am growing to dislike the people who don't send me a proper copy of the invoice with their signature, and then don't receive it correctly being off by hundreds of dollars only to then receive an automatic email that they'll be gone until next week. Annointed fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Oct 26, 2023 |
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Oct 24, 2023 08:06
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I just got fired from my job.
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Oct 27, 2023 20:54
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I think I feel like I hate everything
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Oct 27, 2023 20:55
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That really sucks. Nothing wrong with being in your feelings for a bit, but for what it’s worth, that place sounds horrendously mismanaged. At the very least the job expectations seem well out of line with the entry level position they posted.
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Oct 27, 2023 21:07
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That sucks to hear. I know I'm just echoing what other people are saying but from everything you've said, your bosses set you up for failure.
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Oct 27, 2023 21:24
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It just feels like I wasn't given time to get mentored. Much less given anythhing for long term.
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Oct 27, 2023 21:26
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Annointed posted:It just feels like I wasn't given time to get mentored. Much less given anythhing for long term. Oh certainly and I don’t think anyone here would disagree with that. Obviously we’re only hearing your side of the story but firing any entry level person who seems to care and is making a good faith effort to learn is hosed
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Oct 27, 2023 21:33
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I had a very similar experience with my first job, so I sympathize a lot. I know the thought of restarting the job hunt so soon is horrible but I can assure you there are good offices out there where people will support you as you learn how to do the work and actually understand that there are going to be growing pains with new employees.
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Oct 27, 2023 21:43
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I can’t fire anyone in less than 12 months. That timing is insane
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Oct 27, 2023 22:41
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Ungratek posted:I can’t fire anyone in less than 12 months. That timing is insane From what I seen the other people only last a few months at best. If this is how they treat me I have no idea what they're doing to others. EDIT: I applied for unemployment. Messaged Danny Sitchel of Something Awful fame to update my resume and start job hunting. Annointed fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Oct 28, 2023 |
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Oct 28, 2023 02:51
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Annointed posted:I just got fired from my job. Honestly, it sounds like this is for the best. I know it doesn't feel that way, but it sounds like the guy in charge has seriously unrealistic expectations and no one is good enough for them. So its inevitable there will be endless turnover while they wonder why they are always falling apart. Wash your hands of it, you're better off without this bullshit. Don't get me wrong, it sucks, but this place sounded terrible. After 2008, a lot of offices got wild notions of what "entry level" means from the glut of experienced office workers that lost their job. And places who let that get to their head have absolutely lost touch with reality. With 2008 fading farther away and COVID having the opposite affect where there is a national accountant shortage, places like that are having wild wakeup calls as they expect entry level people to have 7 years experience and wonder why "no one wants to work anymore." I'm letting some of my own frustations out, but I've been fired before. Twice. And I've quit two jobs for overwork, in one case, and open racism, in the other. It always sucks, but it's best just to say "gently caress these assholes," recongize you owe them nothing, that they're pieces of dogshit, and realize that you are better off now without them and you will feel much better at that new, better job waiting for you. And, honestly, if the guy is constantly auditing your speed when they knew it was your first job, your next job should be better. That's a wild thing to expect of even an experienced person in the first month. Like, I had 7 years experience, but it took me 3 months to just get used to the ERP system they use and get up to my full speed. What the hell was your boss expecting? Even experienced people need time to adjust to new systems and people. Seriously, gently caress your old job. You're awesome. Best of luck.
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Oct 28, 2023 04:40
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Good Citizen posted:Obviously we’re only hearing your side of the story but firing any entry level person who seems to care and is making a good faith effort to learn is hosed Covok posted:Honestly, it sounds like this is for the best. I know it doesn't feel that way, but it sounds like the guy in charge has seriously unrealistic expectations and no one is good enough for them. So its inevitable there will be endless turnover while they wonder why they are always falling apart. Wash your hands of it, you're better off without this bullshit. Echoing what everyone else said, it sounded like a lovely spot and you'll be happier for being gone. I got fired once and somehow quickly stumbled into an amazing role where, even years after having quit, I'm still invited to company parties. Life is weird sometimes. Despite how crappy things may feel right now, rest assured good work is out there. It's okay to feel annoyed in the near-term because it is disorienting to have a work situation fail but like everyone else said: don't let it get you down. If you need any resume help you can hmu as well.
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Oct 28, 2023 06:01
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Good Citizen posted:Oh certainly and I don’t think anyone here would disagree with that. Obviously we’re only hearing your side of the story but firing any entry level person who seems to care and is making a good faith effort to learn is hosed This same thing happened to me about a year and a half ago. It sucks but those people suck worse and I'm sure we'll both land somewhere better.
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Oct 28, 2023 06:14
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Finance and Accounting goons open to new jobs? I just posted a Finance Supervisor ad: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3052395&pagenumber=55#lastpost
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black.lion posted:As a firm partner who cannot find accountants of any xp level to hire: The jobs are out there friends!! You'll find your spot!!! KEEP GOING I'm a CPA with almost 15 years of IRS experience at various mid-to high level positions. My current total compensation is close to $200K. Earlier this year I was testing the waters after a friend of mine in public went from a manager role making $120K to $350K a year in her specialty tax area at a non-public firm. The only call I've gotten was for a contract job with no benefits paying $22 an hour. There are jobs out there but most of them aren't going to pay enough to hire me away, and the hiring system itself is incredibly broken.
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Nov 5, 2023 05:31
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heated game moment posted:I'm a CPA with almost 15 years of IRS experience at various mid-to high level positions. My current total compensation is close to $200K. Earlier this year I was testing the waters after a friend of mine in public went from a manager role making $120K to $350K a year in her specialty tax area at a non-public firm. The only call I've gotten was for a contract job with no benefits paying $22 an hour. Where does one pull 350k in specialty tax outside of public accounting? That’s cool. I’m a GS14 revenue agent with CPA and big 4 experience. Always figured I could jump back into something tax controversy adjacent if I for some reason wanted back in on the grind. What were you looking for?
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Yeah the high level roles are still there, at least in public, the question, as always, is is it worth it? I can only say maybe.
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Nov 5, 2023 21:34
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Mush Mushi posted:Where does one pull 350k in specialty tax outside of public accounting? That’s cool. Probably transfer tax stuff with multinational entities where they are playing games to keep revenue in low tax countries or rent their IP from themselves etc..
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Nov 6, 2023 03:14
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Yep, the game has changed these days with Pillar 2 and GILTI, etc., but the game is the game.
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Nov 6, 2023 06:57
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I got a job interview tomorrow. This time a Security Firm. I'll make sure to ask question of how long accountants last there so I know if the company is going to dick me over like the previous one.
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Nov 6, 2023 08:39
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Good idea but maybe come up with a different way to phrase it
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Nov 6, 2023 21:40
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Ungratek posted:Good idea but maybe come up with a different way to phrase it I did with asking the length they prefer accountants. And the general time previous accountants had. They went with wanting long term people. I guess they misheard me.
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Nov 7, 2023 10:23
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Ask what the goals/expectations are in the first few months or what the learning curve will look like for an early-career accountant coming in.
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Nov 8, 2023 13:14
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I got hired new job. Starts next Tuesday.
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Nov 8, 2023 21:41
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Congrats!
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Nov 9, 2023 04:26
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I am no longer employed (not fired, it's complicated), and not having a job or a rapidly approaching start date for the first time in a decade is a weird feeling. I guess I'll fix up my resume and reach out in a week or so to some recruiters who've been messaging me, but its not feeling especially urgent at the moment. life just takes a weird turn sometimes
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Nov 9, 2023 05:15
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It’s a busy market for accountants right now. Checking with local recruiters is a good idea. I liked the idea of contract-to-hire so that if I wasn’t feeling good about a job after a few months I could go back on the hunt. Just be sure to push that pay scale because it still feels like it’s 2016 as far as a lot of these salaries are concerned. Especially if you’re experienced.
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Nov 9, 2023 12:48
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I have an interview Tuesday with the California Franchise tax board as a tax auditor
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Nov 10, 2023 05:39
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Zoeb posted:I have an interview Tuesday with the California Franchise tax board as a tax auditor Ask if you get the horns and pitchfork on the first day, or if you have to complete training first.
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Gabriel Grub posted:Ask if you get the horns and pitchfork on the first day, or if you have to complete training first. They actually emerge from within, you molt repeatedly as you get promoted.
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