Bar Ran Dun posted:

here’s why that is. it’s relatively easy to see casual loops if one is looking at a system honestly. if one can see the causal loops, then one can have a good sense of eventual states of the system. So to see what will happen isn’t impossible or hard really.

But to know when things will happen or a quantifiable scale of how much or the degree to which a thing will happen, or the frequency of an oscillation, needs real in depth modeling of the systems, rooted in good detailed data, improved by iteration and being tested against actual outcomes. which is all really really hard and requires participation of the people who are directly involved in running the systems which we wouldn’t ever get.

so we are damned to see what will happen, but without the timeline or degree, and thus never able to do anything about it or to benefit from knowing other than indirectly.

Frosted Flake posted:

snip

www.latimes.com posted:

After a year of hardship — shootings, war and uncertainty regarding artificial intelligence — the Pantone Color Institute has announced that Peach Fuzz, a warm and fuzzy hue between pink and orange, is the Color of the Year for 2024.

Looking back at 2023, you can’t help but wonder if one of Pantone’s most popular colors this year — no, not Viva Magenta, the official Color of the Year, but PMS 219C (commonly referred to as Barbie Pink) — influenced Pantone’s choice, which was announced Thursday.

In an interview last week about 2024’s choice color, Laurie Pressman, vice president of Pantone, described the color authority’s choice as a much-needed balm for a country “in need of compassion” and the institute’s global wish “for a more peaceful future.”

“With that in mind,” she said, “we wanted to focus on a color that focuses on community and the ones we love. We needed it to be a color of compassion and empathy.”

Pantone Color of the Year 2024: PANTONE 13-1023 Peach Fuzz.

A velvety gentle peach whose all-embracing spirit enriches mind, body, and heart.

The announcement is the 25th year that the prognosticators at Pantone have named a Color of the Year, a trend forecast that influences everything from paint colors to fashion (note Kate Moss and her daughter Lila’s prescient Fuzzy Peach-inspired gowns by Fendi at this year’s Met Gala), dinnerware to furniture, nail polish to lipstick, and even peach-tipped locks.

Peach Fuzz offers versatility in clothing and home goods, Pantone’s representatives said, and incorporates a tactile nature that is hard to resist. “It’s a color that you want to reach out and touch,” Exective Director Leatrice Eiseman said, as it’s “softly sensual and imminently touchable.”

At a time when people are spending more and more time on modern technology, the peach color has a vintage vibe but is also fresh and light. “It’s sensitive and sweet but at the same time quietly sophisticated, gentle and tactile,” she added.

The experts at Pantone anticipate the color will be popular for weddings and floral arrangements too. “The aesthetic is so bright and fresh and airy and sets a beautiful tone for a wedding,” Pressman said.

And don’t forget men. According to Eiseman, a color like Peach Fuzz enhances their skin tone.

Warmth, a keyword in the Color of the Year announcement, resonates with the recent emphasis on doing what makes us feel good — something that’s explored in “Queer Eye” designer Bobby Berk’s recent book, “Right at Home: How Good Design is Good for the Mind.” “The book delves into not just how to make your space pretty but how to figure out what makes you happy,” said Berk, who recently announced that Season 8 will be his last on “Queer Eye.” “What is your favorite clothing? Vacation? You should work those things into your home because they will make you happy.”

That’s because color is an emotional experience, said Eiseman, a color specialist. “Color speaks to you because it has an emotional attachment to you. People always worry: ‘Will others like it?’ Listen to your inner self. You’re the one who’ll be living with the color.”

What if your inner self is color-challenged? That’s where Pantone comes in.

“It’s all about what suits you,” Eiseman said, explaining her role as a color psychologist of sorts. “We do trends, but it’s from the standpoint of how we create an idea that brings comfort to you. We try to help you overcome the negative aspects of color.”

Looking at upcoming trends, she said, “It’s always a challenge to open people’s ideas to other colors. We create the palettes just like we do for the forecast. Colors are rarely used in isolation. And that’s a challenge.”

As with previous years, there will be critics who won’t buy into peach interiors, clothes, mountain bikes and accessories, no matter how well the peach vibe pairs with the other colors in the Pantone color chart or how warm and comforting it was intended.

If a color speaks to you, the challenge is making it work. “We try to open your imagination and give you a skill set,” Eiseman said. Color should never be about dogma and judgment, especially for less confident people.

According to the color experts at Pantone, choosing a color is less about design and more about making yourself happy. Added Pressman: “It’s about reframing how we want to live.”

Bar Ran Dun posted:

you should read “The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte” it deals with a bunch of the poo poo you are wrestling with.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/18th-brumaire/

Nonsense posted:

the rest of the forums genuinely believe the economy is doing well lmao

Canned Sunshine posted:

Eventually the only ones who will be able to afford specialized drinks at outlets like those, will be the upper middle class and wealthy. So if they slowly eliminate their clientele, whose to say if the drink stores are such a bad thing?!?

mawarannahr posted:

lol at this American Psycho bs
https://twitter.com/pantone/status/1732763287454875821?s=20
Pantone Color of the Year is one ‘you want to reach out and touch’


kinda interesting how close it is to the color of white people...

mawarannahr posted:

kinda interesting how close it is to the color of white people...

woke operator posted:

my neighbors are complex people with nuanced qualities and complicated lives. and im going to kill every last one of them for hte crime of living near where i bought my house

mawarannahr posted:

lol at this American Psycho bs
https://twitter.com/pantone/status/1732763287454875821?s=20
Pantone Color of the Year is one ‘you want to reach out and touch’


kinda interesting how close it is to the color of white people...

mawarannahr posted:

lol at this American Psycho bs
https://twitter.com/pantone/status/1732763287454875821?s=20
Pantone Color of the Year is one ‘you want to reach out and touch’


kinda interesting how close it is to the color of white people...

woke operator posted:

my neighbors are complex people with nuanced qualities and complicated lives. and im going to kill every last one of them for hte crime of living near where i bought my house

Vim Fuego posted:

RIP woke operator, clutched his pearls so hard he died

super sweet best pal posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to3sngi0FGs

lol

Frosted Flake posted:

UBI would turn people into Lumpen, 100%.

sleep with the vicious posted:

Spoke to a coworker this morning who reminded me about how the lockdowns are destroying the economy

Nonsense posted:

the rest of the forums genuinely believe the economy is doing well lmao

Schmeichy posted:

It's almost 2024 my dude

Schmeichy posted:

Who is turning into lumpen in this scenario that is not already though

stumblebum posted:

and how long does it last until the unaddressed material issue of lack of production force capital to just dumpster it anyways (ofc not reinstating any welfare programs that were cut for ubi in the first place)

Zodium posted:

willa's right. poop is gross.

Zodium posted:

thought I was in the peace thread for some reason. hmm

Schmeichy posted:

It's almost 2024 my dude

cat botherer posted:

No, just some vocal posters in D&D.

Nonsense posted:

the rest of the forums genuinely believe the economy is doing well lmao

Popoto posted:

If you wanna lol, start here and read down:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=4023270&pagenumber=89&perpage=40#post535024564

Schmeichy posted:

never would have guessed the thread

mawarannahr posted:

Zodium posted:

it kicks rear end