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Branch Nvidian posted:https://www.theverge.com/23994174/epic-google-trial-jury-verdict-monopoly-google-play hopefully it allows the mistaken judgement in the apple case to be corrected
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Shaggar posted:hopefully it allows the mistaken judgement in the apple case to be corrected
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 02:47 |
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Shaggar posted:hopefully it allows the mistaken judgement in the apple case to be corrected What was the mistake? Apple doesn't have to pay cash bribes to anyone else to stop them from releasing iOS applications outside of the app store.
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 02:54 |
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lmbo lmao
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 03:00 |
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Twerk from Home posted:What was the mistake? Apple doesn't have to pay cash bribes to anyone else to stop them from releasing iOS applications outside of the app store. right because their platform is closed so theres no technical way for anyone to threaten their monopoly, but its still a monopoly. android 3rd party app stores are technically possible but goog prevented them through payments. either way the important decision here is that goog can have a monopoly on its own platform which the judge in the apple case (incorrectly) ruled was not relevant (despite it being the only relevant thing in the entire case) if google can have a monopoly on android stores, then apple unequivocally has a monopoly on ios app stores. it doesnt matter by which mechanism they enforce their monopolies.
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 03:04 |
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would not want to be one of the lawyers who had to report that one to Google. “soooo…we heard back from the jury…”
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 03:04 |
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the chad apple captains of industry vs the virgin google attempted monopolists
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 03:08 |
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Shaggar posted:apple unequivocally has a monopoly on ios app stores. it doesnt matter by which mechanism they enforce their monopolies. also remember to save all of the the shsh blobs so you can do mitm replay attack when you want to reinstall older version of ios even if you are not upgrading yet and then you can install anything you want on ios and not even using their ios app store
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 10:48 |
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I hope you’re being ironic because that’s absolutely not something a non technical user has any clue about or how to do. apple has an unequivocal monopoly because the only people who can get around their walled garden lock in are people who would be considered highly technical users who are using exploits to install third party app stores and apps. the vast majority of users don’t know anything about any of that. this extends to android too, but at least a non technical user can just download and install the amazon app store or some other alternative without resorting to hitting exploits
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 12:42 |
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coke posted:not really, for ios 15.4.1 and below you can install dopamine for a15 and lower cpus and then do an unthered jailbreak through sideloading the gta car tracker app and get the trollstore working
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 13:16 |
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coke posted:not really, for ios 15.4.1 and below you can install dopamine for a15 and lower cpus and then do an unthered jailbreak through sideloading the gta car tracker app and get the trollstore working user post combo
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 13:42 |
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let me just downgrade and sideload a some poo poo on my phone thats a 2fa token for all my bank accounts unless you are a literal child just by a second device to run your unsigned code
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 17:07 |
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but this is the android thread
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 17:08 |
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i honestly don't even know what we're arguing at this point. realistically epic winning against google is the funnier outcome with no real downsides, so that's good. personally i think apple losing some battles here would also be funnier than it is bad, so fingers crossed, though i can see the argument that that'll create a bit more of a mess for regular people. not *that* much of a mess though.
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 17:24 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i honestly don't even know what we're arguing at this point. Realistically this is going to force Google's cut down in the future, no matter what the specific remedy is.That's a good thing.
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 17:27 |
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I suspect it means that soon if you want to download fortnite you're going to have to go to the Play store to download the Epic store and then use the Epic store to download the game, and it will be a shittier user experience all around, but if you play fortnite I think you probably deserve it so nbd
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 18:15 |
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Oh yeah it's probably going to get really stupid for a few years, but you're insane if you don't think that this is a positive anti-monopoly action for consumers in the long run. edit: well, we haven't had any action yet and this is going to get appealed. i'm counting chickens way early here
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 18:38 |
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as a consumer, i am so glad to be free of the tyrannical netflix monopoly and i can now choose from twelve different subscription streaming services, each of which has a monopoly on each of the shows that i want to watch.
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 18:52 |
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Sapozhnik posted:as a consumer, i am so glad to be free of the tyrannical netflix monopoly and i can now choose from twelve different subscription streaming services, each of which has a monopoly on each of the shows that i want to watch. are you imagining your media watching life would be all milk and honey if only we were in year 16 of netflix being the only game in town?
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 18:59 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:are you imagining your media watching life would be all milk and honey if only we were in year 16 of netflix being the only game in town? id rather it all be consolidated onto YouTube
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 19:43 |
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Sapozhnik posted:as a consumer, i am so glad to be free of the tyrannical netflix monopoly and i can now choose from twelve different subscription streaming services, each of which has a monopoly on each of the shows that i want to watch. If Netflix still had their monopoly it'd cost $100/mo now
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 20:40 |
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yeah like where am i supposed to watch nash bridges in 2023?
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 20:44 |
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Casual Encountess posted:yeah like where am i supposed to watch nash bridges in 2023? amazons got u w prime video bb
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 21:31 |
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Twerk from Home posted:If Netflix still had their monopoly it'd cost $100/mo now As opposed to paying for six $15 services to see what used to all be on Netflix? At least it'd be consolidated
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 21:38 |
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the nice thing about on-demand services is that you can subscribe for a month, watch the latest seasons of the three shows you care about, and then immediately cancel
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 22:17 |
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pseudorandom name posted:the nice thing about on-demand services is that you can subscribe for a month, watch the latest seasons of the three shows you care about, and then immediately cancel debilitating cognitive load
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 22:20 |
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can't argue too much with the take "if only netflix had a complete monopoly i wouldn't have to think very much about what i subscribed to", but the companion take "and they would extract overall less money out of me and/or the average person" is some high comedy
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 22:23 |
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if netflix was the only game in town they'd have balkanized into multiple subscriptions the same way cable companies offer you multiple packages depending on what you want to watch
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 22:58 |
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mediaphage posted:debilitating cognitive load beats calling the cable company
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Jabor posted:offer you multiple packages depending on what you want to watch dick pics are free bro
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 23:53 |
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checking why Steam is losing connection and lol
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 00:18 |
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 00:20 |
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Steam has gone down for maintenance nearly every Tuesday afternoon for the past 20 years.
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 00:25 |
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the whole stupid rear end youtube videos poo poo is such trash. so confusing. like i understand the drive to put rental vods directly on youtube (ive rented one once due to this) but liek.. lol. google videos or w/e it was called. i dont remember. but it was good. really good. best in class even. rip Smythe fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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coke posted:not really, for ios 15.4.1 and below you can install dopamine for a15 and lower cpus and then do an unthered jailbreak through sideloading the gta car tracker app and get the trollstore working thats true
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 01:08 |
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Smythe posted:the whole stupid rear end youtube videos poo poo is such trash. so confusing. like i understand the drive to put rental vods directly on youtube (ive rented one once due to this) but liek.. lol. google videos or w/e it was called. i dont remember. but it was good. really good. best in class even. rip google is at least on par with microsoft for incomprehensible, wildly incoherent branding
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 01:31 |
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infernal machines posted:google is at least on par with microsoft for incomprehensible, wildly incoherent branding except for their app icons, which are coherent to the point of being indistinguishable.
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 04:32 |
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four color abstract art
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# ? Dec 13, 2023 18:39 |
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coke posted:not really, for ios 15.4.1 and below you can install dopamine for a15 and lower cpus and then do an unthered jailbreak through sideloading the gta car tracker app and get the trollstore working ???????????
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goblin week posted:??????????? someone is doing the stuff you have to do to get android phones usable, but on iphone for some reason.
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