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fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Thread nothing if not consistent, topic under discussion doesn't matter, views will be uninformed, wrongheaded and utterly miserable.

You do realise you are part of the problem, right?

e:

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Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
Watching teevee is so passé, I much prefer watching people watch TV. A hyper emotional pair that have been watching red dwarf have now started with BSG, good viewing. Sometimes I even try and watch the shows myself

Edit this is not Gogglebox, this is a much classier youtube

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Mega Comrade posted:

Season 1 of TNG is notoriously poor. There are like 2 episodes worth your time.

What happened between season 1 and 2 I have no idea.

When I watched through it with my sister I picked out about 16 of them, and most of that was because they introduced things that would come up later. Like, I feel like you need to have a decent idea who Tasha Yar is for Yesterday's Enterprise to make emotional sense.

Funny thing about TNG and SG1. The worst episode by a long way in TNG's first season is Code of Honor, which is basically just 45 minutes of stereotyped tribal Africans treating women as property. The worst episode of SG1's first season is also that episode. As in, same writer, same story, just as racist, a decade later. And it's the first story of SG1 after the opening two parter.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Marmaduke! posted:

Watching teevee is so passé, I much prefer watching people watch TV. A hyper emotional pair that have been watching red dwarf have now started with BSG, good viewing. Sometimes I even try and watch the shows myself

Edit this is not Gogglebox, this is a much classier youtube

Sorta the same, I watch the RLM guys talk about movies and shows I will never watch.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Marmaduke! posted:

Watching teevee is so passé, I much prefer watching people watch TV. A hyper emotional pair that have been watching red dwarf have now started with BSG, good viewing. Sometimes I even try and watch the shows myself

Edit this is not Gogglebox, this is a much classier youtube

This is my favourite way to consume media. I usually watch a sheltered pretty Mormon lady watch the Alien trilogy or some rural Indian guys getting really into Lord of the rings.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Imagine if stargate had followed the TNG second episode formula, we could have seen mcguyver gently caress a space worm.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

forkboy84 posted:

I don't think it's bad, I just think it's wild. Cultural osmosis is kind of hard to avoid

I had a mate at university. Super smart bloke but had grown up with hippy academic parents and without a TV. It was fascinating. Vast knowledge from books and of music, but the entirety of tv pop culture, apart from the odd snippet, was lost on him.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Also Zack Snyder just sucks as a film maker. Overwrought overlong garbage films that keep accidentally sucking off fascists. He's like if Chris Nolan had even less talent, subtlety and taste

OF surely you've heard of 300? The THIS IS SPARTA meme at least? You've been on the internet long enough you can't have dodged that

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Dabir posted:

OF surely you've heard of 300? The THIS IS SPARTA meme at least? You've been on the internet long enough you can't have dodged that

I am aware of the memes but I haven't seen the film.

Basically everything produced in the last 15-20 years I only know through memes.

I think also they were called image macros at the time.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Jan 3, 2024

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Dabir posted:

Also Zack Snyder just sucks as a film maker. Overwrought overlong garbage films that keep accidentally sucking off fascists. He's like if Chris Nolan had even less talent, subtlety and taste

OF surely you've heard of 300? The THIS IS SPARTA meme at least? You've been on the internet long enough you can't have dodged that

The last one of his I saw was the “Oceans 11 in Las Vegas but it’s full of zombies” which, on the face of it, is absolutely my poo poo, but which he managed to turn into a dull, tedious, flatulent slog

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
I haven't seen 300 but I did write a very good essay once on the Peloponnesian wars.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you have a time machine you should send the corinth canal back in time and see if that changes anything.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Runcible Cat posted:

I thought 300 was hilarious when I first saw it.

I didn't realise for a while that that was completely by accident.

300 is absolutely meant to be funny, this is the impact of po-faced internet commenters with youtube brain who've convinced themselves that satire is dangerously close to fascism.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


The best Star Trek is Return of the Jedi

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

sebzilla posted:

The best Star Trek is Return of the Jedi

Is that the one where The Doctor teams up with the Cylons?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

TACD posted:

DS9 was the best classic Trek because it was a bit darker than the rest and blended episodic content into a compelling multi-season arc. Paradoxically, all the new Trek blows because it’s OTT dark or “quirky” and focuses exclusively on seasonal arcs at the expense of individual episodes or character building.
Again the issue is that even DS9 was ultimately optimistic about the future. There were multiple galaxy level threats, but always hope that good would somehow persevere.

The future portrayed in Discovery and especially Picard has this kind of spiteful disbelief that human nature can or really should ever improve, along with the grimdark 'everything is horrible and the only way to win is to be equally horrible, and everything is just going to get worse so we are too.'


Runcible Cat posted:

I thought 300 was hilarious when I first saw it.

I didn't realise for a while that that was completely by accident.
This is probably the healthiest way to approach Snyder films. They're popcorn-slammers, visual eyecandy and no more. Do not go in expecting a clever film (despite what the fans and director will tell you) and you'll probably have fun.

I do have a soft spot for the JL:SC just because my sister in law was very very briefly in the restored footage, after the rear end in a top hat cut removed almost the entire history lesson segment. I know how many months she and a ton of other people worked for it, and she said she had a lovely conversation with Francis Magee who sadly seemed to think it was going to be a much bigger part.

Sucker Punch however is raw, unfiltered misogynistic dogshit dressed up as feminist fantasy, and the denouement only works if you fundamentally misunderstand what a lobotomy is.


His Divine Shadow posted:

Sorta the same, I watch the RLM guys talk about movies and shows I will never watch.
Kill James Bond is also pretty good for this. They recently did Master & Commander and ended up concluding that dudes do not in fact rock.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

His Divine Shadow posted:

Sorta the same, I watch the RLM guys talk about movies and shows I will never watch.

My 12yr old stepson watches Youtube videos of people watching compilations of viral videos. Endless hours of annoying guys going: "What the.... Oh. My. Goodness. I can't believe he just ate that!!!"

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Bobby Deluxe posted:

The future portrayed in Discovery and especially Picard has this kind of spiteful disbelief that human nature can or really should ever improve, along with the grimdark 'everything is horrible and the only way to win is to be equally horrible, and everything is just going to get worse so we are too.'

I can see why its so popular.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



The best thing about the future portrayed in Discovery is that phasers have been replaced with big goofy arm mounted Metroid canons that do the same thing (but with more collateral damage) while rendering your hands useless.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

stev posted:

The best thing about the future portrayed in Discovery is that phasers have been replaced with big goofy arm mounted Metroid canons that do the same thing (but with more collateral damage) while rendering your hands useless.

Dustbuster supremacy

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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KJB are very funny but they're not exactly film scholars with it. Probably safe to assume every other James Bond podcast is run by blackshirts though.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Gorn Myson posted:

I've seen far too many people claim that he drove his daughter to suicide. Not through any evidence, but because they dislike him because of his superhero movies. Snyder haters are far loving weirder than the people that like him.

absolutely no one mentioned Snyder until a bunch of goons frothed themselves up into a gammon rage about it

it loving sucks

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Ms Adequate posted:

Best recent scifi is definitely Gundam The Witch From Mercury though

:hmmyes:

It’s also available for free both subbed and dubbed on YouTube and Crunchyroll, if anyone is curious.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Lt. Danger posted:

absolutely no one mentioned Snyder until a bunch of goons frothed themselves up into a gammon rage about it

it loving sucks

why is it a gammon rage?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

They seem to assume that anyone expressing mild dislke is in fact seething and scromiting themselves into insanity over the existence of a director who is at best passable and at worst overuses slowmo.

Snyder is neither a wünderkind nor an antichrist. He's just a weird little man who makes action movies.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jan 3, 2024

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
posting politics in the sci-fi thread:
https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/1742503251285622862
'richard you can't just call everything you don't like "socialism"'

*points at passing suella braverman*: SOCIALISM

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


I have to kick someone out of my gang tomorrow. He's annoying has refused to work and rubs everyone up the wrong way especially if he doesn't get his own way. The other gangers have asked why I haven't gotten rid of him already. But I hate just cutting people off like that, if we don't work we don't get paid so even thought my life will be easier still feels poo poo getting rid of someone.

Just having a bit of a vent.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Are you pickpockets or something?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Apraxin posted:

posting politics in the sci-fi thread:
https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/1742503251285622862
'richard you can't just call everything you don't like "socialism"'

*points at passing suella braverman*: SOCIALISM
All while calling his party 'the party of the working class', which sounds a bit like a materialist dialectic based on relation to the means of production, Dick.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

He's just not pulling his weight stepping slowly toward their enemies while clicking their fingers. Totally out of sync.

DreddyMatt
Nov 25, 2002
MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF CURRENT EVENTS IS EXCEEDED ONLY BY MY UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR PISS. FUK U AMERIKKKA!!
Big trouble at the jets hideout brewing

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

The Sex Arse newspaper is after some of Baroness Mone’s knickers.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

bessantj posted:

I have to kick someone out of my gang tomorrow. He's annoying has refused to work and rubs everyone up the wrong way especially if he doesn't get his own way. The other gangers have asked why I haven't gotten rid of him already. But I hate just cutting people off like that, if we don't work we don't get paid so even thought my life will be easier still feels poo poo getting rid of someone.

Just having a bit of a vent.

Could you maybe have another one of your gang garrote him from behind in the car while you're driving over a bridge and then dump him out so he can sleep with the fishes? It'd be the kinder thing to do, I think.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Mega Comrade posted:

Are you pickpockets or something?

No, we do rail maintenance.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

He's just not pulling his weight stepping slowly toward their enemies while clicking their fingers. Totally out of sync.

Reveilled posted:

Could you maybe have another one of your gang garrote him from behind in the car while you're driving over a bridge and then dump him out so he can sleep with the fishes? It'd be the kinder thing to do, I think.

Lmao.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
If I register with the electoral commission, make a nutty powerpoint and put out on background that Nigel Farage will be there, will 50 journalists come to watch?

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

bessantj posted:

I have to kick someone out of my gang tomorrow. He's annoying has refused to work and rubs everyone up the wrong way especially if he doesn't get his own way. The other gangers have asked why I haven't gotten rid of him already. But I hate just cutting people off like that, if we don't work we don't get paid so even thought my life will be easier still feels poo poo getting rid of someone.

Just having a bit of a vent.

Do you want to piss him off or the rest of the gang?

They are an adult who is supposed to do a job and should know better, time to remove them from the equation before everyone gets brought down.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

bessantj posted:

No, we do rail maintenance.

Michael Gove and Boris have probably done a lot of rails in the Strangers Bar, let them know you're hiring.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

bessantj posted:

No, we do rail maintenance.
A rail maintenance gang?

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grobbo
May 29, 2014
sneering bourgeois, all of you

'gang' and 'gangers' are perfectly legitimate terms used by those of us who actually work for a living, fighting for archeotech in the Underhive of Necromunda

in sincerity,

quote:

I have to kick someone out of my gang tomorrow. He's annoying has refused to work and rubs everyone up the wrong way especially if he doesn't get his own way. The other gangers have asked why I haven't gotten rid of him already. But I hate just cutting people off like that, if we don't work we don't get paid so even thought my life will be easier still feels poo poo getting rid of someone.

Just having a bit of a vent.

This sucks and I'm sorry. Try and remember that this is on him and not on you; ultimately your responsibility is to the entire team, not to him, and it sounds like you've tried to make it work and everyone's at their limit. Feeling the weight of it is a reminder that you're conscientious, not a sign that you're doing anything wrong.

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bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Just Another Lurker posted:

Do you want to piss him off or the rest of the gang?

They are an adult who is supposed to do a job and should know better, time to remove them from the equation before everyone gets brought down.

Yeah you're right he is a shockingly childish man on times. He once punched the side of the van because someone sat in the seat he wanted to sit in.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Michael Gove and Boris have probably done a lot of rails in the Strangers Bar, let them know you're hiring.

Our main driver once turned to me and said "you know, I'd love to kill Boris Johnson" in the most matter of fact way.

TACD posted:

A rail maintenance gang?



It does feel that way sometimes.

grobbo posted:

in sincerity,

This sucks and I'm sorry. Try and remember that this is on him and not on you; ultimately your responsibility is to the entire team, not to him, and it sounds like you've tried to make it work and everyone's at their limit. Feeling the weight of it is a reminder that you're conscientious, not a sign that you're doing anything wrong.

Thanks. I think we'll be the third of fourth gang he'll have been kicked out of.

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